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Welcome to the Saints That Serve podcast, where each week your hosts dive into the crossroads of faith, culture, and the unknown. Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now. We are the Saints that serve.

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Hi, welcome to the Saints that serve podcast with your hosts. I'm Johnny.

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Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah, hold on. Nice approach. And I'm Jared. Hey, way to go on the bit. Yeah, I had to I had to beat the level.

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What episode is this? This is episode 68 of Mission Ministry Month. Month.

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So we've been in this. This is the second episode. There you go. You said episode 68 of Ministry Month. Yeah. This would be episode 68, episode 2 of 2026 Ministry Mission Month. This is going to be really confusing like three years from now.

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We've got so many subsets of what's going on. This is our second episode for 2026 Missions Ministry Month. There it is.

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There we go. And but it's also episode 68 of the podcast.

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Totally separate deal. But yes. And I'm your host, Johnny. Ask me if I won. Well, no, you didn't. Because you lost. How'd I how'd I lose? You lost the game. Dang it. Got me. Got him. Alright. And who what's your name, good sir? Who's been here every single episode?

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I said um Jarriss earlier after I beat the game.

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Oh.

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Well, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, sir. For the first time. Shaking hands. There we go. No one could tell. No, but we did. Yeah. And we pray for our listeners every single Friday. Every single Friday. That's our first announcement.

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So if you need prayer, you should totally reach out to us. We've got an email. Saints is serve at gmail.com. That is the email. That's right. And then there's a message messaging link at the bottom of the description for this episode, or you can find us on social media.

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It only works on anything that's not YouTube.

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Yeah.

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It doesn't work on YouTube. For some reason. For some reason. I don't know why. So it's not even there. But it's where there everywhere else. Yeah.

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Right.

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And uh unless it's an old episode. Then you can click it and it won't work. Yeah, just go crazy. Go crazy. Just risk it. Risk it, click it. Or ticket. Or yeah. Click it or ticket.

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Is that nationwide now or is that still just the state of Georgia? I think that I don't know. Let's ask our guest. Alright, guests. Anyone in the uh we'll just go crazy. Arkansas. If you're in Arkansas and you're listening to this, do you have a click it or ticket law in your state?

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I said guests, not listeners. Well, he lives here with us. Right. So let's see if he knows.

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Alright. Well, welcome back to the show, Mr. Ethan. Hello there. If you guys don't remember, Ethan came on and did a fun bit about is it Mountain Dew?

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Yeah, he I got a question. Since you've like what episode was that like? 40. Yeah, in the 40s. So you've had 40 weeks. Have you drank? Drink drinked. Have you done drunk? Drunked a Mountain Dew. Not a drop. Dang. Dang. Not even a Baja Blast. Well, he does he know those don't exist. Yeah, that's not real.

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I think I think at some point in my life, I definitely have pushed the button on the mount on the Baja Blast at Taco Bell and gotten a little swig.

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A little swig.

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Can I get a Baja? Uh yeah, that's alright. As the uh shaman um man of wisdom at the gas station told me one time if you just mix Mountain Dew with Power Aid, it's Baja Blast. He came up to you, right? Well, he walked up to me. I was getting Sprite. Not even Sprite cranberry? Yeah. Want a Sprite cranberry?

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Uh not even why do you still have that prepped? It's not December anymore.

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Nice approach.

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Thank you. Just in case.

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Just in case. That's so good. That tastes so good. I was like, yes, it does taste good. And he's like, you know, Mountain Dew, Baja Blast. Dude, if you just get that Powerade and that Mountain Dew and mix them together, it's Baja Blast. That's all they do. I was like, oh.

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Yeah, all you gotta do, sir, is spend$10 for two drinks when you could have spent two for one. It was a fountain drink at the gas station.

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Oh, okay. Did it work? I didn't try it. He said all that and then like set his cup down and then walked to the bathroom. It was like he came in, forgot he had to go to the bathroom so that he could reveal this deep secret to me, and then realized right after he said that to me, he needed to go to the bathroom, and so he left. So that was my sign to be like, don't do that.

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Don't do what he said. John put down everything he had and he he just he left. He said, I'll I'll go to a different gas station. Then he gets to the other gas station, walks in, and that guy walks in and says, Did you know?

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Thought about maybe taking his cup and moving it like a foot to the left just to mess with him.

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Even better, just carry over to the bathroom and set it in front of the bathroom door. Hey, that's wasteful. Or now we know what that is. What that's really childish. Yes. And segue into child child. I'm terrible at this show. So I'm fired. Children's ministry. Yeah. So Ethan's here because he has a specific set of skills that make him a nightmare for children's ministry.

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Careful how you say that. Oh yeah, that wine that back. No, so Ethan, you have been a part of an organization called Young Life.

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Young Life. Is that nationwide?

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It's international.

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Nice. Is it on your side?

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Is it on my side? What?

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Nation. Nationwide is on your side.

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Oh.

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No, I'm I'm more of a bum but bum bum bum bum bum kind of guy. Oh, progressive. Got it. What the heck? Uh anyways, yeah. So we wanted you to come on and talk about Young Life and kind of the vision of that and also your experience with the program. Uh or I guess I should say ministry. Uh, because that's what we're talking about all this month is missions this month. For this month. So um, yeah, people kind of know who you are, Ethan. If you have Think Mountain Dew. Yeah.

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There is a whole podcast that I was on. The whole episode. There is homework. Yeah.

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So if you want to give us like one fun fact about you to get people caught up, and then uh we can what's some new lore?

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Yeah.

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Some new lore. Yeah. What's some previous what's some new lore that people did not know about Mr. Ethan?

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I think a big one. I'm getting married in 40 six days.

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46 days. Alright. I'll be 4'6.

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Nice approach. Awesome. Congratulations. I already knew, but yeah, we all knew. Yeah. Yeah, really. We knew before you knew. But people listening. It's big lore. Our one guy in Japan. Or girl, whoever it is. Yeah.

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Or if you're just using a VPN.

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Or if it's just a VPN.

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What if we just have a side tangent on VPNs? That'd be incredibly inefficient if you're using a VPN, you're in the States. So you are essentially taking yourself, putting yourself in Japan to then reach back out to America. So you're like jumping for over there to jump back here. It's incredibly inefficient to you would just use a VPN for your area and it just and mask your IP is the easiest way of doing that. So they've got to be in Japan. Or really bad with technology. He is an IT. I do work in IT.

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I would I would trust what he has to say more than what I have to say.

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Thank you. I trust you. Thank you. You're welcome. I am Spartacus. I'm the Alpha now. I'm the what I'm the alpha. I'm the Alpha now. I'm the Alpha now. Teen Wolf baby. Anyways, okay, let's talk about young life. We only have 54 minutes to do so.

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So how did you get into Young Life?

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It's a gnarly story. Shred? So I became a critter.

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Did you shred some gnar? Like turtle power? Heck yeah. What? Heroes in a half show? You're psychotic. The villain in that is called Shredder. Okay. That's my train of thought. Continue.

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Um, so I became a became a Christian um in February of 2017. And yeah, I just fell in love with Jesus. I wanted to know everything about him, and I just yeah, very very zealous for I'm looking left and we have a cat we have a cat paw.

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Not coming through the not trash cat for those. No, there's another cat.

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There's a new cat on the property. New cat on the block. New kids on the block.

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New cats on the block. New cats on the block. They had a couple of hits. But yeah, uh Chinese food makes me sick.

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I uh fell in love with Jesus and just wanted to know everything about him. Um that was whenever I was in eighth grade. I got baptized on June 2nd of 2017.

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Congratulations.

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Yeah. Um which sounds like it was not that long ago, but it was nine years ago at this point. Which is crazy. I know, right?

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2016 was 10 years ago.

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Yeah.

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Um, anyways, so got baptized and then went into high school that next year. And um I remember being at lunch, and there was these like group of I'd say mid-20s, and they were just going around and like sitting with us at the lunch tables. They were, you know, want to know our names. They were guys who were showing up to the football games and taking pictures and then putting them online, and there was this young life like Instagram page that got started where they were just going to all these games, and it was just like, who are these guys? Yeah, like nobody nobody knew anything about them, but they were so cool. They were just like these young college guys, and yeah, so then this camp rolled around. It was to go to Carolina Point at the big in January of 2018, and I knew nothing really about it. I knew that these guys were Christians, I knew it was like this I mean, just this kind of club, but I never really had anything to do with it until they really convinced me like, yeah, come to this camp, come to this camp. It's like, okay. So I show up to this camp, I go, and then on the bus ride there, they're like, All right, guys, we're gonna take your phones. We're like, well, I was so confused. So then I like called mine, I was like, hey, I'm not gonna have my phone. And he was like, What do you mean you're not gonna have your phone? And so, anyways, get to this camp, all the lights are off, so confused. Yeah, and then we go into this like club room, which is like a uh what's it called? The ample theater, like where the steps, where the steps go lower and lower. And then we start like singing Hannah Montana party in the USA, and like Justin Bieber, baby, and I was like, what is going on? And like it's like a party in this room, yeah. And then all of a sudden they like switch, and then we're like singing a song that you can tell is like God inspired, but it wasn't like a worship song. It was more or less kind of like get you to slow down and think.

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Sure.

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And then kind of sat down, and then this guy kind of gave an introduction of who he was, and then he asked, like, you know, who is Jesus? And then he kind of showed a bunch of different portrayals of what society says Jesus is, showed off the buddy Jesus, the Catholic Jesus, you know, some cartoon Jesus, whatever. Um, and then we went back into cabins and then we talked about it. And I lived with these group of guys for like four days, but I was not really about it.

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Yeah.

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I was like, this is weird. Why aren't we doing it this way, the church way that I know, you know, the way that I've been sitting in it? I didn't understand it at all. Yeah. Until probably the very end, whenever I see all these guys that are like, I mean, not doing the best of things throughout the week or on the weekends, who are like engaging in conversations about Jesus.

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Yeah.

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And I'm like, wait, why is this like bringing people together? Why do these people care to engage in these conversations?

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Sure.

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It did something, but for me, I was just like, this is not for me. I didn't really, it wasn't my cup of tea. I was going to church and all I knew was church. Fast forward three years later, graduate, excuse me, four years later, I graduated high school and I started being mentored by a friend of mine named Rob. Shout out Rob. Um, and he got saved at Wendy Gap Camp when he was 15 years old. So at that point it was 45 years ago. Wow. Yeah. And uh he just starts telling me young life, young life, young life. I'm like, I went, I tried it out, I did the thing. I didn't really think it was for me. He was like, nah, like you were made for this. Like you, you would be an incredible leader. And uh turns out you were made for this is like the the the the pitch, what do you call it? Like the phrase, the thing that they say elevated pitch. It's no, it's like you were made for this, which is like you were like you were made for so much more.

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The catchphrase?

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Yeah, I don't really know. I mean, I guess so. The motto. I don't know. Motto. The motto. Um but for this.

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So yeah, I went catchphrase. Yes. You were made for this. Are you are you good at catching?

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So I go to club. Um, club is pretty much like a weekly gathering that they do, or pretty much they'll meet in somebody's living room and they'll do it through a school. They have schools uh around here, and typically Young Life will partner with the school, and then through that partnership, they'll do a club, which is like a weekly gathering at somebody's house who's on a committee meeting. So you're just meeting in somebody's living room. True. And you're doing the same things that you were doing at camp. You're singing songs, you're playing a bunch of crazy games, you know, what just like the wildest thing, you know. Hey, let's see how many leaders you I mean, how many how many kids can fit in this person's car? And you have like 15 kids in a car, and you're like trying to stack it just like oh, random games. Um, anyways, went and as a leader this time, I'm just like, man, I'm I just showed up. I'm investing a little bit in these games, and then all of a sudden, these kids, some of them who you can tell are like believers, and some of them you can tell went because their girlfriend wanted them to come. They had they wanted nothing to do with it.

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Their parents want to pass them off for the a couple of weeks, babysitting for a little bit, you know.

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It's like they have interest in me to build a relationship. Yeah. Just because I showed up one night. And that's kind of the point of young life is to introduce yourself to kids, build relationships with them, and in you introducing yourself and building a relationship with them, you then introduce them to Jesus.

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So it's how am I gonna say this? Uh, how should I say this? It's uh less church, but and more community with church and that's related teachings, right?

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And that's where I would say relational ministry is what young life, that's what they coined, okay, is their style of ministry. They're they're it's kind of how Jesus did it, where he didn't really go around and convince people of who he was. He just showed up and like just had a conversation. And in those conversations, he would go to the heart and then he would show, Hey, I know you.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And then through that, and that's wherever you'd see some some beautiful things happen in in the conversations that Jesus would have with sinners. So yeah, I mean, love the ministry. It's it's a beautiful thing. It's it's to reach that furthest kid who's never gonna step into the four walls of a church. Yeah. It's to reach that kid who has been invited over and over and over again. They've they've done the things, they've, you know, whatever. They're never gonna go to church. But they'll come to an easy, you know, club at somebody's house that's comfortable, or they'll go to a Friday morning breakfast with a young life leader for a little bit, and they'll build that relationship. But every single time that we get together, we're always making sure that, hey, we're giving them the gospel.

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Yeah.

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And we're continuing to show them who Jesus is, whether that's through a person of Christ talk, whether if that's through, hey, what is sin? What was the point of the cross, the resurrection, appropriation, whatever it may be? We're walking them through the gospel the whole semester.

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Yeah. Okay. Um, I got a question.

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What's that?

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What is the so they go through, you know, I'm assuming once they turn 18, you know, they're not, you know, it's not they're not young anymore, so they can't be in here. What is the turnaround of it after young life? Do you see them going into church?

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So I guess as far as the young young life goes, you have for middle school wildlife. Okay. It's pretty much that started with young life in Texas in the late 1930s, and then it officially started as an organization in 1941. Started as young life, then they started a wildlife, then they started college life. So there is a continuation that goes on with it. But the cool thing is, is I have so many kids still to this day. What's what's cool is every single December and at the beginning of every single summer, all those kids that I continue to build relationships with, they'll give me a call. And regardless of how they're doing, they still want to see me. And you better be sure that I'm yeah, gonna be asking them questions and seeing how they're doing. And yeah, some of them they're like, they can't wait to share all the awesome things that God's been doing and how they legit started with a drug addiction at the beginning of college, and then how now they're finding freedom in Christ. That's awesome. Like legit last month, well, in December, one of my seniors from two years ago called me up. Excuse me, I call him up, and then we met, and he was like, I was just thinking about you. We met, and he was telling me how he's living with a female, doing this and that, doing drugs, you know, all the kinds of things. And then how in the past month he experienced the presence of God. And he just kept on telling me about how young life really kind of laid down the framework for where. Where he's at right now and the things that he's starting to experience, which is beautiful to hear. Yeah.

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Cause I I think me and John have talked about it in the past, but it's like you do go on these to these camps and there is a a camp high that you do high have, and you know, you get back, and some people do stay in church. And then there are some people who, you know, oh, that was that was just a summer thing. And it is good hearing that it it's not just a summer thing for a lot of these kids going through this program.

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Well, because it's because the relate because the ministry is built on relationship, it's not based on this, all right, we got them in the room, we did the thing. It's like, okay, cool, we we experienced that together. But then we're just gonna go back home and continue to continue the conversation and continue the relationships that maybe started there, maybe really grew there. Whatever, maybe it doesn't end at camp. Which also reflects, like, hey, your relationship with Christ that maybe you started or maybe grew. It doesn't end at camp.

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Yeah. Yeah, and you were um you've been to like more than just young life on the southeast, right?

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Like you've been to the call every single Colorado camp. I've been to one in Texas, which is like little story. I don't know if you're done with the question, but a story came to my mind about Texas. About how it's right on the border and they're able to bring in kids. Border of what? Of Mexico. Hit the button.

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But they're right on the border of start naming, oh geez. Start naming all the states around Texas and don't even mention Mexico. Louisiana?

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Oklahoma. No, no, no, no.

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New Mexico.

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Not those borders. Um, but yeah, they're right on the border of Mexico, and I heard a really cool story about how like that camp, there are some towns that come, especially like in Dallas and Houston, whatever, where like people are like, this is whatever. I don't care much about it. It's too hot, whatever. And then you and then you have these kids from Mexico who come in and they're like making sure that all their friends get to eat first at the table.

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Yeah.

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And then they're like, no, you can have all the you all you want.

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Yeah.

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And then they're like, What do you mean I can have all I want? And then they're like, This is the best thing ever. I get three square meals, a comfortable bed, I get to seat horses and swim at a lake, and this is amazing. Like, so it's just kind of cool to see how like I don't know, how how different areas and young life looks completely different internationally, but specifically at that camp, there were with it being in Mexico, just these kids who are some horrible living conditions, they're going to this place. It's like this is the best thing ever.

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Yeah, wow. And you say it's international, so like what are some of the bigger hubs on the international side? Like, what are some really big places that they have a big presence outside of the United States? Do you know that?

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Not super equipped to answer that. I know that one of my former young life kids from last year, he's going to the Dominican Republic to help build a bunch of buildings over there, which is super cool.

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Okay.

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Um, I know it's all over South America, they're all over Europe, they're in Canada. Uh, one of our United States properties, um, Malibu is actually in British Columbia, which is really cool. Malibu.

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Oh wait. Malibu in British Columbia?

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The camp is called Malibu.

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Oh, okay.

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But it's in British Columbia.

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Okay.

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But and that's the these camps are like millions of dollars to build these camps. Yeah. But the point of that is like, hey, God sees you more more beautiful and valuable than all of this surrounded around you.

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Yeah.

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This says, and this is Chat GPT, so this may or may not be accurate, but it says they operate in Europe, Asia, Pacific, Central Asia, Africa, North America, and Latin America.

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Mm-hmm. That sounds about right.

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I know they're in over, if I'm not wrong, over a hundred countries. That's what that says. Working in more than 100 countries worldwide.

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Whoa. That's pretty neat. Yeah, it's pretty neat. Okay. So what? Like a kid gets involved in young life in high school.

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Mm-hmm.

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They get saved.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I'm assuming the discipleship continues throughout their high school years. And then they get into college, and college life is something they can do. Do you have a good do you have a feel for like, okay, kids that are getting out of high school, they turn right back around and jump in as a mentor for for new high schoolers, or is it kind of something where it's like the Marines, it's only the few, the proud, and the brilliant that that return to help out?

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What's so beautiful about Young Life is the people who did Young Life, I was sitting in a coffee shop, standing in a coffee shop in Marietta.

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That's very healthy. Yeah, I don't I don't sit.

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I stand. Sitting kills. I stand with my feet.

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But I was standing.

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I stand with God. Hey, praise the Lord. I kneel before him, but good for you.

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You're so good. I can't have any rebuttal to that. You you shut down the joke. Sorry. Just lift him up.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Sorry.

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Nice approach.

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There you go. Hey, thank you. Thank you. You're welcome.

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All right. But I was standing in a coffee shop in Marietta, and some guy who's like in his in his like 70s told me about like when he went to Frontier Ranch, which is the oldest lasting Young Life camp, still standing, was formerly Silver Cliff Ranch, and then Young Life took over the property. It was the third Young Life camp ever built. Yeah. Dude told me he was like, I went there back in 1970. Like it was and when the I say that of like when you have somebody who went to Young Life whenever they did it, they're like, oh, where have you been? What camps have you done? You know, I did this for this long. It's like, but um, what's the turnaround on it? I guess statistically, I mean half of like my half of my kids that I had some like very intentional discipleship. And I would say half. I think I have five kids right now who are currently uh young life leaders or in training to be a young life leader at the college that they're at right now. Okay. Now I would say effectively, like, hey, they were coming to our you know, weekly breakfast. We were really getting in the word together, we were talking on the phone throughout the week. And of course, you have the kids that are coming to club and you know their names, but they're just not really part of your circ circle. Part of the people who are like really into the word and like really into like digging deeper. Then I would say you have like those kids that are like, hey, yeah, you're and you you're the one who are inviting all your friends, and you're then you have the kids that are like, You're you are praying, like, I mean, you're praying for all of them, obviously, but like you're really like, man, God's stirring something up. They're continuing to come, they're asking questions, but they're not like ready to make that step yet, ready to commit to Christ. They maybe see him as attractive. And then you have those kids that are just like, Yeah, I'm just here because my girlfriend invited me, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 27:55

Is that typically the size of the groups like five or like what what's like a typical, you know, you have your larger meetings and then you probably you know have your smaller groups. What's a typical small group size?

SPEAKER_05: 28:09

I would say for breakfast, so I keep on saying for breakfast. So each week we I love eggs. Yes, so good. Um bacon for the weekly gathering we call club. Um, I would say for my club at least, it was about 30 to 40. Um, which is pretty a pretty healthy club. Some some clubs are getting about 20, but it's like I don't mark how effective a young life club is by numbers. By the second. I don't think numbers for me is like I I care about who, you know, what what kind of conversations are we having? Are you connecting with these kids throughout the week? Do you know their names? Something we say in young life is a kid's name is the most important word in the in the English dictionary. Yeah. That's so, but I would say weekly we would probably have between like 30, 40, if it was like a holiday time, 50, 60. Um, but for campaigners, I mean, I would say like a solid five, six, which is like awesome. You grab a little table, pull a bunch of chairs around it, and you hang out with these kids, get there at like seven o'clock, and you hang out with them until about eight o'clock until school starts. And it's just like maybe for the first 20 minutes, we'll sit there, you know, hang out, eat breakfast, and then after that, like get into the word. And some of these kids, like, this is their first time ever actually digging into the scripture. This is the first time that they're ever able to ask questions and not feel embarrassed because they're around their friends who are also curious. Yeah. Yeah. Or what I kind of saw by the end of it is like the kids who are now like training and getting into being young life leaders, like they were starting to disciple into maybe those younger freshmen or sophomores, you know. Where I was like starting to get a little bit hands-off with it, which was, you know, an honor to see.

SPEAKER_02: 29:53

Sweet. So, what is kind of the discipleship model look like for young life? Like, how do they train you guys to become disciplers?

SPEAKER_05: 30:06

So for most a lot strategically, Young Life will set up at college. We call it that college life. They'll be at college campuses, and that's where you meet, you know, college kids you're maybe getting into it or whatever, and pretty much getting them trained up as uh, you know, either start training them in the fall and then they start leading in, you know, the spring. But pretty much just like a weekly meeting and just teaching them what is relational ministry, you know. Teaching them, you know, hey, it's just showing up, you know. It's just giving them the time of day, it's just remembering their name, you know, it's meeting them on their turf. It's showing them that you actually love them. It's one of Young Life's key verses is like we were, I think it's First Thessalonians four. You can you guys can fact check me. Um we were so desirous of you that not only did we give you the gospel of Christ, but we also gave you our lives as well. Fact check me.

SPEAKER_02: 31:10

First Thessalonians four. This is a Christ check. Christ check. Do you have like a verse or just the whole chapter? I'm not a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_05: 31:21

Uh it's the it's that verse I just said that we were so desirous of you that not only did we give you the gospel of Christ, but we gave you our lives as well.

SPEAKER_02: 31:29

Sorry. Mute your phone. Spam. Answered on on the show. I should have. It's probably a home buyer like, hey, are you still interested in selling your house? Yeah, right now. Right now. Give it to me right now. I need to get out of the country.

SPEAKER_01: 31:45

I like how Ethan picked up his phone, like, did I sell it to my phone?

SPEAKER_02: 31:50

Therefore, he who rejects this does not reject man, but God, who has also given us his Holy Spirit. The verse was 1 Thessalonians 2-8. Oh, 2-8. Okay. Change that up. Even though you already looked it up. All right, 1 Thessalonians 2-8. So we cared for you because we loved you so much. We were delighted to share with you not only the gospel of God, but our lives as well.

SPEAKER_05: 32:30

So that right there is like, I would say, the heart behind young life leading, is like, hey, it's just showing up, you know. I think I read something in a book. It's called Friends for Life, which I would highly recommend anybody reading. It changed my life on what is relational ministry. It's about a guy named Mal McSwain that, long story short, after 50, 60 some odd years of young life leading at his funeral in 2021, his original campaigners group kids spoke at his funeral. Oh, wow. That's awesome. That's what it looks like. But that's the heart of it. It's just it it's just showing up. It's just being present. It's showing a kid that, hey, I love you, and I'm not just gonna show you that with my words or you know, trying to convince you of something. I'm just gonna be your friend. I'm just gonna keep on showing up. And then all of a sudden you get that phone call whenever their girlfriend breaks up with them and they have no idea who they are. Yeah. Whenever they don't make the team, whatever it may be. True. And then you're able to be, and then they see you as a safe person.

SPEAKER_03: 33:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 33:35

And then they start showing up to the things. And it's like, well, why does this person care about me?

SPEAKER_03: 33:40

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 33:40

Why do they give me the time of day? It's like, man, I've I've been loved.

SPEAKER_03: 33:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 33:46

I've been loved by Christ. Therefore, I want to give you that love and I want to show you that love. Awesome. So yeah, talking about the young life process, pretty much that heart, everything I just explained to you. They're gonna go a week by week process of just teaching, you know, teaching leaders how to show up and how to be present.

SPEAKER_02: 34:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 34:03

In the kids' lives.

SPEAKER_02: 34:04

So, kid, let's just say from for you personally, because obviously you can't speak for everybody in your life.

SPEAKER_01: 34:11

For you personally, please represent young life as a whole right now with your next statement.

SPEAKER_02: 34:16

Yeah, I want you, whatever you say is what the official statement is for this international missions organization.

SPEAKER_01: 34:22

Okay, no pressure. Um you represent the whole organization right now. Do you wear wigs? No, I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_02: 34:30

Uh yes. Discipleship, a child gets professes faith. Yes. They are saved, regenerated, and now you're going into the sanctification side of the gospel. What do you do to help them grow in their faith? Because, and the the reason I'm asking this, it is a leading question. The reason I'm asking this is there are several ministries that I have been in partner with in the past that were very hard for me to be with because they didn't invest in the second half. They did not care about sanctification. Yeah, all they wanted to do was was tell people the gospel and keep them at the gospel. And so it it in one way it was nice because it was okay, the gospel, who Jesus is, all this, like God loves you, which is great stuff. People need to know God loves you, He loves you, He loves you, He loves you, is what's being said. And and people latch on and like, okay, I agree, I I believe that. I believe God loves me. Jesus is my Lord and Savior. I profess my faith and now I'm saved. What's next? And it's like God loves you. And and and there's nothing like it's not there's nothing about like how do you grow closer to the Lord? How do you get in a deeper relationship with God? How do you hear from him? How do you this, that, and the other? The things that we should know when we grow in a relationship with somebody, because God is a somebody. Yeah, none of that is presented or enforced or encouraged in any way. In fact, it's repressed. So what's your approach after? Because it is great, like kids that are, you know, some kids have really hard personal lives at home. Parents do not care about faith at all. And so just the idea of Christians is is they don't even know what Christians are, it's just a weird group of people. And so they are skeptical, they are reserved, but then they come into a young life and there's just love and there's just community, and it doesn't matter who they are or what they're struggling with, because it's just about you were made for this.

SPEAKER_05: 36:41

Come on.

SPEAKER_02: 36:42

We love you. We don't care about all that stuff. We just want the what's best for you, and we believe what's best for you is Christ. And so a kid after after time, praise the Lord, receives that truth, gets saved.

SPEAKER_05: 36:54

Now what? Go. So the goal of Young Life is actually not to keep them in club.

SPEAKER_02: 37:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_05: 37:04

Young Life, as we would say, is a catch and release ministry.

SPEAKER_02: 37:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_05: 37:09

If a kid gets saved at Sharktop Cove and never comes back to Young Life, but I find out that he is connected with a church, that's a win. And I'm okay with that. Yeah. But as far as the kids that hey, I mean, I if he never did, that's okay. I obviously would still want to continue to build a relationship with him and continue to be the person that's discipling him. But I'm saying if he never came back, that's okay because I know that there's people shepherding and helping him get, you know, be sanctified. Yeah. As far as each person's discipleship or each leader's discipleship method, that is to each leader's. Um, so whether if it's, you know, continuing to grow at the campaigners, and that's what I if I had to give a coined answer, it would be the campaigners.

SPEAKER_02: 38:01

W who are they? Hmm. Who are the campaigners?

SPEAKER_05: 38:04

So campaigners is pretty much whenever the the weekly breakfast on Friday morning or whatever, that's wherever it's like, hey, let's dig deep into the scripture and let's go further. Now, as far as like one-on-ones and stuff like that, I would say that's to each leader. I'm currently, you know, I'm going through Crazy Love by Francis Cham with one of my young life kids who graduated last year, and we do a weekly meeting for that, and that has been really awesome. And he's plugged into a church and told me last week that he's tithing. So I'm like, that's a beautiful thing to hear from an 18-year-old. Yeah. Um who accepted Christ in 2020 summer, 2023.

SPEAKER_03: 38:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 38:47

Yeah. I I would definitely say that is a part of young life that could maybe be a little bit, I'm saying maybe improved as far as like an official uh the campaigners model as far as like meeting and digging deeper. That is that is the way as far as like getting kids to continue to be sanctified. This is the way. But um, yeah, I mean the one-on-one, the one-on-ones are typically from leader to leader.

SPEAKER_02: 39:16

Okay. So you've you've mentioned leaders, you've mentioned campaigners. Are there any other in-house terminologies for different people? Yeah, can we get like a cheat sheet for this means this? Yeah. Like, do you have a name for the leaders or is it just leaders? Yeah, we're young life leaders. Young life leaders, and then campaigners or young life campaigners, and they just what do they do? They do sermons?

SPEAKER_05: 39:42

Mm-mm. No. Okay. So Young Life Leaders will host a campaigners, which is typically that Friday morning or whenever you want to do a breakfast before school with the kids. And that's that moment where it's just, hey, let's just have a meal together and let's hang out. And then during that, you know, let's get into the word.

SPEAKER_02: 40:04

And so the campaigners are the ones who initiate let's get into the word.

SPEAKER_05: 40:07

Kids aren't campaigners, no.

SPEAKER_02: 40:08

It's not the campaigner, like what do they do? Because you say that's the that's kind of their right now, their approach for digging in and into the sanctions.

SPEAKER_05: 40:21

So campaigners isn't a title of somebody. It's not. Campaigners is just the name of like, hey, like Bible study. This is what we're doing. It's a fancy name for like Bible study or we're not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02: 40:31

Oh, okay. So the leaders are the ones who are doing it, but campaigners are the event.

SPEAKER_05: 40:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 40:40

Yes. Okay, so campaigners is not a person, it's an event.

SPEAKER_05: 40:44

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_02: 40:45

This sounds poorly named. Well, yeah, the way it was worded is like there's a separate person who comes in and does like a Bible.

SPEAKER_01: 40:53

I mean, a campaigner would be somebody who is like doing something, you know, like it's an action there on the campaign.

SPEAKER_05: 40:59

Campaigning for Christ. Yeah. Um I would like to formally. I mean, it's at least with our structure, we did Mondays was our weekly club where we would meet. Okay. In the evening? Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 41:13

And that was from And that size of the group is a bit smaller. Like it's kind of like that's that's the bigger.

SPEAKER_05: 41:18

That's the one. So that's the bigger one where you get together. Okay. And then on Friday, we would do the campaigners group, which is typically the smaller group of kids who are like, hey, we want to dig in. We want, we want to know, like, and we want to be a part of something that's right, and we want to read scripture, and we want to pray, and we want to learn, hey, how do I actually walk with Christ? And then we would have what's called contact work, which is wherever you're going to the games, going to the plays, going to watch a kid in a band, you know, whatever it may be. Just showing up just showing up the community side of I'm there for you. And then two camps. One is a week-long camp in the summer, and then one's a weekend camp in the winter.

SPEAKER_03: 41:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02: 42:00

All right. So you're kind of meeting twice a week for kids that are serious. And then you've got two retreats throughout the year that kids can go to. Yes. Okay. And then they're pretty much around the world.

SPEAKER_05: 42:16

Mm-hmm. And so, like, I mean, there's 20, 20-something camps in the United States. Typically, we we stay in the southeast. Sometimes you'll hear of schools going out to like Colorado, but it's just way more expensive to bring kids that far for travel.

SPEAKER_02: 42:32

But could like a kid, if they wanted to like Pokemon it, individually go to every single camp around the world, like gotta see them all.

SPEAKER_05: 42:40

Okay. I was like, where are you going with it? So that's another like Disney adults. And I'm glad I'm glad you said that. So you asked me for um what is a really um you asked me for sanctification. So one of the cool things that we do for high schoolers and for college as well, for high schoolers in particular, we have work crew. Okay. So for those kids, and it could be somebody who's accepted Christ. It could be somebody who's just like, hey, I want a cool retreat, whatever it may be. So it's a missionary opportunity, but then it's also a sanctification opportunity where it's, hey, you get to go to any camp in the United States. You know, you just got to pay for travel, but for free, you get to stay there for three weeks, but you work. Okay. And what's cool is that most kids, whenever they do that, they say that was the most fun young life thing ever done. But they do some crummy work. I mean, if you're on the pits, which is pretty much you are washing dishes for sometimes till like two, three o'clock in the morning.

SPEAKER_03: 43:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 43:41

And they say that is some of the most fun work that they've ever done, even though it was exhausting and they washed tens of thousands of dishes. That sounds like fun. What are you talking about? And you've done that, right? I never did work because I I only did Young Life the one time in high school. Oh, okay, okay. But I've gone with with students for a weekend retreat and served behind the scenes and stuff like that. And I've seen it. I've seen how, you know, kids they learn like, wow, work is fun. And why do we have a good attitude about cleaning dishes and taking out the trash? And why is this awesome? Yeah. You know, and it's it's because they're being discipled. They're saying that work is a beautiful thing, it's from God, and they're doing it in community, and they're having moments of silence and solitude where they're able to go away and rest and they get to experience what godly rest looks like whenever you're working hard. And yeah, they just do a good job in modeling these things, and you know, yeah, it's a beautiful thing.

SPEAKER_02: 44:42

Cool. Okay. So, what has been the most challenging thing for you as a leader with young life? Like, what is it, how has it challenged you the most in your faith and in your walk?

SPEAKER_05: 44:53

The first thing that came to mind, I guess I'll run with it. I think it's just like so talking about club, which is the weekly gathering that we do, typically the leaders they will be assigned jobs, you know, throughout whether if it's like, hey, you're gonna run the game at this time, or hey, you're gonna do announcements, or hey, you're gonna do the talk. And that right there was one of the things that got me. I had never really done any kind of preaching or anything like that. But the way that Young Life says is they're just like, hey, you're just going up there and you're talking to your friends. Yeah. And that's the way they market it. It's just like, you know, you've built this relationship with these kids, you've earned the right to be heard. That's a thing that we say in Young Life is like we've been in their lives for weeks, we've shown up through their games and this and that. So who else is gonna go up there? Yeah and talk to them about Jesus. So going up there, I think twice a year and giving a talk about Jesus, and again, throughout the semester, we'll start with the person of Christ talk and then we'll talk about what is sin, and then we'll talk about the cross and resurrection. It's like talking to them, and I think I got the cross talk three times in a row, which is like pretty heavy, where it's like that's the only thing that you're focusing on with these kids that are like yeah, in a lot of sin. Yeah. Um, and still trying to figure out who they are, and then they find out that a that a man came and humbled himself to the point of death. Yeah. And because he loved us. And it's like some of these kids they've never been told that they were loved before.

SPEAKER_03: 46:31

Wow.

SPEAKER_05: 46:32

You know, and then and then they have some leader who's showing up in their lives, you know, yeah, beginning to display that love, and then they show the ultimate example of love. Um yeah, I think that has challenged me to step out in faith and and say the things that God has wanted me to say up there that has and that that's definitely grew me, and being able to see the spirit move in that room. I would say challenges as a leader is, you know, it's a relational ministry. It's not just like, okay, you know, which I think is kind of my challenge to the church in a lot of ways, is like, hey, there's there's more than just the two o'clock, I mean the two-hour meeting, either on a Sunday or the two-hour youth group. Yeah. Um, but that's challenging as a young life leader pursuing relational ministry. It's like, hey, like, you know, I I need to be invested in these kids' lives. Yeah. I need to know what's going on. I need to actively be praying for them, you know.

SPEAKER_04: 47:33

True.

SPEAKER_05: 47:33

Yeah, I think there's a lot that goes into it, and it's way harder than just showing up for a couple of hours and doing your thing. It's like, no, I'm I'm giving you my life.

SPEAKER_03: 47:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 47:43

And I'm messaging you even on days that we're not doing young life, and I'm showing up to your games and I'm sitting with your parents, and I'm like, it's it's it's a lot, but it's a beautiful thing whenever that kid has that moment of of realizing that the life that he's been in and the life that he's been pursuing is nothing in comparison to life with Jesus.

SPEAKER_02: 48:07

Yeah. Yeah, we I mean we tried to do that when we led youth group. It was like it's not just about the Wednesday night meeting. Like if you want these kids to actually give you the time of day when you're up there teaching, be a part of their life. We did some crazy stuff too. We did a we did a one night, we did a Minecraft competition.

SPEAKER_01: 48:31

Dude, I no joke, when we were reminiscing, those pictures came up. Like whenever we were upstairs looking at picture of that night came up.

SPEAKER_02: 48:40

We played it was capture the flag on Minecraft, but it was like OG Minecraft, so it was a limited map. Yes, it wasn't infinite. And I think that that was probably the like craziest team building exercise we ever did. All right, and it was a video game, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 49:00

So uh behind the curtain on that, peek behind the curtain. I spent like I didn't tell John I was doing this. I think we you just said, Hey, we're gonna we're gonna show up and we're gonna play Minecraft. Yeah. And I worked for like two or three days straight because I was working like a pizza place at the time. So like I had the time, and I worked for like two or three nights building these maps for this, yeah, and then showed up for it. And it was so funny when John goes, You made this.

SPEAKER_03: 49:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 49:31

But I mean, that was that was our whole thing was like, yeah, we want we want to be in these kids' lives. We want them to know the love of Christ, and the only way to do that, and the only way for them to take us seriously is to be present.

SPEAKER_01: 49:43

Even outside of well, we were no more than just yeah, these are the the church guys.

SPEAKER_02: 49:50

Yeah, it's like we weren't is it wasn't like uh you're gonna give me two hours of your attention. I don't care if you came here just because there's a cute girl, like I am the supreme authority, and you're gonna listen to me. And if you don't listen to me, it's your problem, it's not my problem. You know, like we just didn't buy into that. And so it was like, yeah, it was that mentality of no, to to disciple people is to be living life with them. So yeah, I like that. I like that young life, that's that's kind of the idea behind it, is it's living life with these kids and showing them the love of Christ. That's really cool.

SPEAKER_05: 50:28

But I would like I said, to to meet kids and to introduce them to Christ. Yeah, it's definitely an evangelism ministry.

SPEAKER_02: 50:36

Sure.

SPEAKER_05: 50:38

There is opportunities. Like I said, if you have that rock star kid who's a believer, or maybe he gets saved at Young Life, and I've seen this before, they get saved at Young Life, and then all of a sudden they kind of turn into like a mini young life leader at their school. They're doing they're going around with the kid, they're showing up to the games, they're doing this and that, and they're bringing new kids in.

SPEAKER_01: 50:58

Hey man, this is awesome. And I want you to experience it.

SPEAKER_05: 51:01

Yeah, I I experienced it. And then so they're doing it, and it's like then they get to, you know, they're going off to you know, summer staff, excuse me, not summer staff, uh work crew during the summer, and uh, you know, then they get to college and then they're starting to do so it's like there is opportunity for the safe kid, you know, or the believer in Christ and young life to continue to thrive. But again, if a kid goes to church and doesn't come to young life again, that's awesome too. Yeah. But the main goal to introduce kids to Christ. Um, I would say decide as far as like sanctification isn't the like main focus, but I just naturally by doing it, I just feel like the kids that I met and the kids that I'm still doing life with today and still checking up with, like, sanctification just naturally kept on happening because discipleship never ended. Sure. So so yeah. Yeah but uh I love relational ministry, it changed my life. Um somebody just introducing themselves and you know, telling me about Jesus, and I believed it, you know, they took time and then they continued showing up, and one of those people was in my the guy who introduced me to Christ is gonna be at my wedding. Yeah. Um it's like that was nine, ten. No, we said two thousand No. Yeah. And he showed up then and he's still showing up today, just like Jesus. Yeah. Whenever he showed up in our lives and he continues showing up and he's still here today with all of us.

SPEAKER_02: 52:41

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_05: 52:42

Yeah. Awesome.

SPEAKER_02: 52:44

Alrighty. You got anything else you want to ask?

SPEAKER_01: 52:47

Uh yeah. Um, since it sounds like we're kind of starting to wind down a little bit, um, if there's listeners out there who are interested in young life, how would they start something like that? How would they get into being part of Young Life?

SPEAKER_05: 53:00

So if you are a middle schooler or a high schooler, I would find out or reach actually, no, excuse me. I don't work for Young Life, but I'll know this. You can go online and you'll find out where the where the local clubs are. There's a map. So have a that'll have a that'll have a print. It'll show each high school that's so like younglife.com. I think younglife.org.org. Okay. Potentially. Maybe we could fact check.

SPEAKER_01: 53:25

Guys, don't go to younglife.com.

SPEAKER_05: 53:27

Completely different website. We can we can fact check that. Younglife.org. Net dot network. But yeah, there's a there's a really cool map that'll show every single club um in the area where we meet, and then it'll also show the camps around YoungLife.org work.

SPEAKER_01: 53:44

And then what right there at the top, get involved. Find get involved.

SPEAKER_05: 53:49

Yep. And then typically that'll give you the information for the area director um or staff associate in that area, and you can reach out to them.

SPEAKER_02: 53:58

Join the adventure. Yeah. Young Life is for every middle school, high school, and college student who wants meaning, fun, and the most out of life.

SPEAKER_01: 54:11

It's true. And then right there, you you missed it. It said find go back up for adults too. Find Young Life near me. And then look at that. There's your neat map right there.

SPEAKER_02: 54:22

Houston, Texas.

SPEAKER_01: 54:24

Yeah, that's where we're located. Uh, is there like No, we're not. We're in Washington, D.C., 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. So if you have any qualms or issues, send a letter there. Um, is there any goofy requirements or pretty much open door for any young person who wants to join?

SPEAKER_05: 54:44

No goofy requirements.

SPEAKER_01: 54:46

All right.

SPEAKER_05: 54:47

Yeah. Well, it's uh we do a funny for most of us. Most clubs would do a funny time. It'll be like show up at 7.47. And that's when we start.

SPEAKER_01: 54:56

747. 747. Get on the plane. Mm-hmm. So it'll start around six or seven.

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No, no, no. Got him. Nice approach.

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Yeah.

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Anyways.

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All right. Well, hey, thanks for joining us. Absolutely. Thanks for telling us about young life.

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Yeah, thank you.

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If he won't stop, we're about to lose all the rights to the show, right?

SPEAKER_02: 56:57

I'm just going down the line. Liar Star Wars is gonna get you.

SPEAKER_04: 57:06

That was fun.

SPEAKER_05: 57:07

Christians, I think there's some scripture about Christians suing other Christians, so we're good.

SPEAKER_02: 57:11

Yeah, it's just don't do it. Anyways, thanks for coming on. Absolutely. Thank you. Appreciate it for coming on, Ethan. Hold on, Ethan. Um, yeah, so for everyone listening, tune in next week for another missions ministry month episode.

SPEAKER_01: 57:33

That's right. Not a no silly jokes, j uh gyps or jabs on episode 69. Nothing. Nothing. We're gonna be completely serious the entire time. 100% of the time. Dead serious. The one episode where it's just no jokes, all serious. We're gonna be professional. Suits and ties only. Suits and ties. Yeah, busy. Should we come dressed next week?

SPEAKER_02: 57:57

Yes. We should not be naked next week. Perfect.

SPEAKER_01: 58:01

All right. Well, Christ is Lord. And the kingdom is now.

SPEAKER_02: 58:06

We are the saints deserve.