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Welcome to the Saints That Serve podcast, where each week your hosts dive into the crossroads of faith, culture, and the unknown. Christ is Lord, and the kingdom is now.

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We are the Saints that serve.

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That's the Saints that serve podcast.

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And on this episode, episode 66 of the podcast, we have a guest. His name is Batman.

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Yeah, and I'm here to deal justice. True justice to Gotham. And maybe other cities whenever whenever it get Gotham figured out. Because I'm not gonna stop this, baby. This train this train is left station. This is who I have for the rest of my life.

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Did the train have like explosives on it? Placed there by Rajaghool.

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Yes.

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You're gonna use something to blow, like you're gonna use the explosives, Batman?

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I'm gonna be a terrorist on crime.

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You're claiming, Mr. Batman, that you are going to be a terrorist.

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On crime.

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On crime.

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Yeah, they're gonna the criminals are gonna have to have a criminal Geneva convention to figure out what to do about me. So what you're saying is The Underworld is gonna get organized and become a world power to try and stop the crime against crime.

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So you're gonna be a terrorist against crime, which is a genocide against evil. But that's also a terrorist organization. So is that terror on terror crime? Yes. So you're a criminal?

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Against criminals, yes. You're a criminal against criminals. Yes, the criminal police have put out a wanted poster for me.

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So the criminal police that's separate from the normal police? Yes. What color does the criminal police wear?

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Like the real, real navy blue. So it's like black? But when you get really close and you look at it really hard with your eyes quinted, you're like, wait a minute, that's not black.

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Is that kind of like what you wear wore back in the uh the 50s and 60s?

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No, that was normal blue. This is real navy blue. Like you can't tell that it's blue until you get really close. And you squint your eyes and you're like, wait a minute, I thought this was black, but it's not. It's navy blue. And then you get real mad because you're like, I I bought it because it was black. And now that I've got it home and under a different uh shade of lighting, and my I'm looking really close at it because I was trying to get the sticker off, and I just couldn't get it off from a distance. So I get really close to see if there's like a pin holding the sticker in place, and it's not. But in the middle of trying to take the sticker off, I get a real good look at the cloth, and it's not black, it's blue.

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It's the closest thing to blue without squinting your eyes. Yes. Our elderly audience is gonna absolutely hate this bit that we're on right now.

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Why? Because all they're gonna hear is that's okay, that's all they hear anytime we talk.

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I'm your host, Jarrus, and I'm your host, Johnny. And this is episode 65 of the Saints that serve podcast. 65. Hey everybody, this is Jarriss from the future, and I came to the past to let you all know this is actually episode 66. Not 65, 66. John and I made a huge goof, and we're both sorry. All right, enjoy the rest of the episode. And the last episode of the year. Of the year. Yeah. Some would say this calendar year. Calendar year. Not not the episodic year. Not the episodic year. That ends in like September. September. We should have just planned this and like started episode one in January and made it so much easier.

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Nah, I like it. Yeah. It makes uh whenever everybody finally gets on board with how great this podcast is and it becomes really big, we'll create a holiday and we'll call it the Saints That Serve Day. And it's gonna be in September. The Saints That Serve Today. Today. And everyone's gonna go out and they're gonna be like, hey, how can I pray for you on Friday? Because I pray for you every Friday. Because that's what we do. We pray for our listeners every Friday.

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I'm just picturing like, you know, young generation brain rot, how they'll just like this the 6'7 nonsense where it just like the six seven?

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Yeah.

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Do you actually not know what this? Oh, you do. Okay, okay. No, but I'm just saying like that whole brain rot thing where it's just like whenever it's like a call and response thing. Yeah. But it's just gonna be like people walking around just being very annoying, just like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, how can I pray for you? How can I pray for you? How can I pray for you today? It's pray for you Friday, pray for you Friday. Uh 100%, 100%. Uh-huh. Welcome to St. Just Sir Podcast. Dang. It's just all our little catchphrases. Welcome to the corner. Uh, where shadows creep and something whispers. I hey, how much do you think this is on Facebook?

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You know what? I will take that as encouragement that there are young people listening to our podcast out here making memes out of us. Gen Alpha. If anyone in Gen Alpha outside of my children every now and then listen to this podcast, I'll be encouraged. Great. Which actually there are.

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I would love to get on the internet one day. Flip through TikTok. I hope one day. I hope I can figure out how to get on the internet. No, I hope one day I get on the internet and get on the TikTok and there's just memes of us. People finally latch on, and we're just prominent. We gotta do not famous, just prominent.

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We gotta do something memeable.

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Memeable.

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Like what? That it's memorable.

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Got him. Got him. So uh before we kind of get started in this episode, even though we've been doing it for seven minutes now. Yeah. Uh do we have any announcements? We pray for you every Friday.

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Pray for you, Freddy. Pray for you, Freddy.

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Uh yeah. So if you need prayer, reach out. We've got an email, saints that serve at gmail.com. You can also click a link at the bottom of the description for this episode, and that'll take you to a direct messaging where you can send it to us and we'll get it. Or through social media, you can message us or comment wherever and and we will see it and we will pray.

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Yeah. Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. X. X. You know that if you click type in twitter.com, it still takes you to Twitter, right? Yeah, I know. Okay. They didn't it didn't stop being Twitter. It's just X also. And threads. And threads. And YouTube. Yeah, we're on YouTube. Yep. Did I not say YouTube? Dang.

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Dang, then. Uh, or maybe you didn't, I just zoomed out. Email. And email. We said email. Also, another announcement. We are gonna be doing mmm month.

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Month. Or well, the thing is that you're like that's like saying ATM machine, though.

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Yeah. Mm mm mmm month. We're doing mmm. Mmm. Starting next episode. And what is mmm? Mission ministry month.

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But according to John, it's a mission, ministry, month, month.

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Yeah. Mission ministry month month. That's it. So tune in. We'll be kind of talking about ministry and interviewing different individuals about their ministry and kind of getting just the the idea behind it is testimony behind ministry. To try and just encourage people to just do it.

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Just do it.

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Also, most people in ministry don't get recognition. They're not seeking recognition. Yeah. But it is nice to sometimes be recognized for your work. Sure. So we kind of we're not really out there like shining the brightest light on this individual or bringing them strictly because it's them for their works. Yeah. But it's always nice to say, hey, thanks.

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Hey. Thanks. Yeah. So that's our announcement.

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Yeah. So I came to John and we had an episode topic planned. Because this episode comes out a couple days before New Year's Eve and New Year's Day.

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Yep.

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And we we did, we worked on show notes and we got ready, and it's just like it felt weird doing a whole like, especially in like the joyful season. Yeah. It felt a little weird trying to force a topic, if that makes sense.

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Yeah. Talking about we're trying to like end the year by talking about new year's traditions.

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Yeah. I feel like every episode, and I'm not saying don't listen to them, because I think they're good episodes, but every episode in the joyful season this year was just facts and oh, this is how other people did things and all that stuff. Yeah. And then it's just like we were trying to think of something to do for the last episode of the joyful season. And something I've been wanting to try for a little while was me and John just sat down and started talking. Just a raw conversation. Just talking about whatever conversations. So the topic of this week is there's no topic. We didn't come prepared. We just sat down, clicked record, and started talking. Because a lot of times when we sit down, I'll click record before we even start the episode. And some of the funniest things we say and do, it never makes the episode. Yeah. Because we're not even on topic. We're just sitting here talking about the week and all that stuff and just having a good time. And then we get into the episode. It's a good episode, but it's I feel like something's missed. It's not quite a natural conversation.

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Yeah.

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We're sitting here talking, you know, we're entertaining, but it's not a natural conversation. So welcome to Organic. So, Tyler, this is your transition to a natural conversation. So our topic today is organic conversation. Organic. So how do you feel about like organic, you know, like mulch and mulch? And you know, like manure.

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Wait, as opposed to synthetic mulch? Yeah.

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Is there such a thing as synthetic mulch? I yes. Have you never been on a playground and like all the mulch is like just plastic pieces? Oh.

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Yeah. The cardboard or the uh tire like the rubber pieces. Rubber mulch. Okay. Yeah, and that's what comes up when I search it. Rubber mulch. Rubber mulch. When I type in synthetic mulch, it's rubber.

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There you go. Yeah. I feel like that would just I know that they're doing that, I guess what, to save trees or trying to protect the environment or recycle, but it's like rubber is still made out of trees.

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It's just a specific kind of tree. True, but how often They're not saving trees. Well, they're recycling the tires. I don't think it's recycled tire because there's metal woven into that rubber.

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Oh. So they're just killing a different type of tree for this rubber.

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I mean, I could.

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So then what's the purpose then? Well, because it lasts longer? It bounce.

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Yeah, I guess it lasts longer, but it it's got a little bit more of a bounce to it. So if a kid falls, it stays in better, stays in place a little bit better.

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I guess. And there's a I feel like it would hurt just as much if you fell on it. Yeah. Versus wood chippings. There's also Let's go out right now and test it. And just go go jump off a playground onto rubber and then go find another playground with mulch and see which one hurts more. Face plant.

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Also, I think that because there's a way to do the rubber mulch with like an epoxy sealant, where it all sticks and stays in one place. So you can do walkways and like instead of doing like turf or astroturf, you can do rubber as a field. So it's kind of that idea is that it can be held in place and it it's just it has more give. So it's more forgiving on your knees and stuff.

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I just feel like cause we had mulch put down at the house. What color was it? Black. And it was bagged or in bulk? I'm not sure, but it's wood.

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So it's made out of wood. It's just it's everywhere in the backyard. Which? What? Also. So I'm now I'm thinking through this. I'm just realizing. I rubber mulch is made out of wood too. I'm I'm 90% sure. No, I get what you're saying.

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So I've got to change it. But it doesn't change.

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I've got to change my paradigm now, though.

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But my point is, is okay, that stuff spreads everywhere. Like it's all in the backyard in the grass where like it kind of just has over time gotten spread out, whether you know, the lawn lawn guides you know, weeding and knocking it around or the dog spreads it out, right? Yeah. That stuff breaks down. Eventually that mulch will go into the ground and disappear. And I feel like that rubber will not. I feel like the rubber for playgrounds is not as environmentally friendly. Okay. Because I mean, that rubber's not gonna break down. It might eventually. He's so into trying to look up his factory.

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I'm trying to find out what it I'm I dude. I am an in a rabbit hole right now. Apparently, there are synthetic and natural rubbers. I did not realize that. So, how much would synthetic rubber versus natural rubber cost? So, since this overview says that synthetic rubber is a man-made elastomer produced from petroleum byproducts designed to mimic or improve upon natural rubbers, elasticity, offering superior resistance to heat, oil, chemicals, and weathering for application in tires, seals, hoses, footwear, and medical devices.

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Yeah, I got a feeling that does not break down. And the question is, is that rubber on the playground synthetic or natural? There we go. I want my playground rubber to be all natural.

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Alright, so I need to correct my statement. They don't destroy the trees, they get the sap from the trees to make rubber. So there's the rubber tree, the Javia Brasilinesis.

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So I guess it is actually if you're using natural rubber, it is better for the environment because you're only harvesting, not completely you're not wiping out a forest. You're wiping out a forest for the bark off of the tree.

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Unless it kills the tree the way that they do it. I guess it depends on the practice of the harvest. I mean, dude we could spend all day trying to unpack. This whole episode ended up rubber about rubber trees. Come on, and then we just become activists. We need to save the rubber trees.

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No, seriously, though, it's like when you like harvest like honey or or sap from like maple trees, right?

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Yeah.

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They don't kill those trees.

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Well, I guess it depends on like once again, I think it comes down to the practice because if you're like putting an insane amount of taps on these trees and getting all the sap out of them, and then they don't survive and they die from it, then I guess it eventually kills it.

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But they they can't it's not economically supporting if you're out there killing your what produces your product. Yeah. So there's they've had to find a way that to sustain the tree to always consistently provide. Yeah. Just like vampires, they don't, you know, they'd be they'd be so much smarter if they, you know, didn't just kill their victims, but just, you know, drain them and then kept using them, you know?

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Well, but I'm pro-vampire. Braum Stoker and Dracula. Mm-hmm. Like the because okay, so in Dracula, that's like one of the first stories we have about that's made up, but it's about vampire. Yeah. And in Brahm Stoker's Dracula, Dracula is the epitome of evil. There's no redemptive features about him. When he bites a victim, the first time they become a vampire. Okay. If he does not kill them, I thought, actually, no, I'm sorry. He does kill them with his bite. Like he bites them and they will die, but then they'll be they'll become a vampire.

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I thought that it wasn't a vampire they became, it was like a zombie type husk kind of creature. I I I know that there are in stories different things that happen depending on if you get bit, you become like a a mindless servant, but you're not like there's only one vampire.

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So there are, I want to say that they call them familiars. It's something to that effect. But that's a mind control thing. Right. I thought that he gains control of their mind. He doesn't bite them or anything. He gain gains control of their mind and and makes them an indentured servant because that's what happens to uh Mr. Renfield and the psychiatric hospital in the story. Is he becomes this he becomes controlled by Dracula over mind control, over he manipulates him and gains control over him.

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Do you ever see the movie Renfield where Nicholas Cage plays Dra uh Dracula? Oh no. It's so funny. It is? Yeah. Okay. And it's uh, I think his name's Nicholas Holt. I think that's the actor's name. Okay. The dude who played uh Beast in X-Men First Class. Yeah, okay. Uh he plays Renfield. Gotcha. So I mean I have to check it out. In that it's like he's not a vampire, but he has like the like some immortal attributes and superpowers because he is Dracula's servant. Trying to bring him, you know, it this is modern day and vam uh Dracula's kind of been brought down to a new low and he's in hiding. Yeah. Because modern society it's it's made him harder to actively have victims. Sure. So Nicholas Holt is still out there trying to find him victims while trying to serve Dracula. Yeah, yeah. And uh the dude, what's his name? He played Sonic the Hedgehog and he was in Parks and Wreck. And I'm blanking on his name.

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He played Sonic the Hedgehog and he was in Parks and Wreck?

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Yeah, the dude who um don't be suspicious, don't what's his name? I'm trying, I'm blanking on the actor's name.

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I can't remember his name either, but I know who you're talking about.

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Yeah, he plays in that movie too.

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Okay.

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It's like a uh he's the villain in that movie. The movie's really funny. I'm f uh You're looking it up and I'm Ben Schwartz.

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Ben Schwartz. There you go. Yep. Yeah, but like in the story Dracula, because he has his three brides in his castle. Yeah. They're all vampires. And they're and they call each other sister. And so the one is that the first sister wife? Yeah. Turns out Dracula's Mormon. Uh no, but when he goes to England, he claims a victim. Yeah. And they all assume that she's dead, and so she gets buried in a crypt. But she comes out at night and starts doing, you know, vampire things, such blood and stuff. And so it it culminates in them finding out trapping her in the crypt and and then disposing of her with, you know, the only way you can. Yeah. Uh with a vampire. And then they find out that he actually had a secondary victim as well. It's it's the main female character of the book. It's uh I can't remember her name. But anyways, so there's trying to call her Elizabeth Vampire. No. Uh, but uh because the main somewhat of the main character outside of Dracula is her husband, Jonathan. And they're so she's trying to like they're trying to find a way to save her because they find out that she's been bitten already. So she will become a vampire. It's just they were able to stop the process before Dracula could finish. So it's delayed. But uh, yeah, so the whole story is about them going to erasing all his safe places in England, and then him retreating back to his castle and them chasing after him to try and dispatch him, because if they can kill him, they hope that it will save her, which is what they do, and it ends up helping. But I say a lot of that to say plastic trees, yeah. Plastic trees. No, vampires, like original Dracula vampire. When you get bit, you die, and then resurrect as a vampire. And you're a vampire for all eternity unless you are destroyed.

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Right. But it it's so many different, it's such an old story that in so many adaptations of it, there's so many different types of scenarios, you know what I mean? Yeah, people. I mean, look at something like Blade. Oh, yeah, the vampire who can be in the sun, you know, that kind of stuff. Like there's so many different variations.

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Mina Harker.

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Mina Harker was the character's name.

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That's the main female character they're trying to save, and her husband's Jonathan.

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Was it you and Ethan that we were talking about the different types of like it was like, would you write would you do you think you could survive in a zombie apocalypse? Uh and I said, what type of zombie? Oh yeah.

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I don't remember who we were talking with, but yeah, I remember.

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And I'm just and then we got on the the subject of like the all the different types of zombies.

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I think it was I think it was Jeremy that brought it up.

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Oh yeah. At Poker Knight, right? Yeah, maybe.

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But the question was something was like I'm gonna go ahead and disclaimer, it was either Jeremy, Joel, or Ethan. So whichever those three did, shout out to you.

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There you go. No, but it was something along the lines of is a zombie dead, and I said, depends on the story.

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Yeah.

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Is and you know, typically, yes, the default story is a zombie is an undead creature, like a somebody who is raised from from the dead, you know, I mean, and craves brains, right? Yeah. And I said it depends on the story now nowadays, because there are some zombie stories where the zombies aren't actually dead. They have like this like what is it, rabies type situation. Yeah. I think in a couple stories, like I know 28 days later it's they called the rage virus, and it's just they're going gone crazy and crave biting people, and when they bite people, it turns them, it transfers the you know, the rampage to them, but they're not actually dead. Yeah. Because they kind of start doing like, oh, they still have some humanity in there, kind of type of stuff.

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Yeah, so I guess we got, yeah, because that's the like traditional zombie is an undead person, a person who was dead, who their corpse has been reanimated, but their soul is no longer in their body.

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Their soul is no longer in their body. So they have no humanity, it's just driven strictly on hunting and eating other people.

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So according to this, and this could be wrong, but the original like zombie stories originated in Haitian folklore. I believe that because I think that they where the zombies are controlled by like sorcerers. Yeah, it was all witchcraft. Or witchcraft, yeah. So that's a possibility, uh, but uh it's possible. No, the modern zombie is a virus zombie because that's like the big scary no-no of the modern age is a virus, yeah. So everyone's like, how do you how do you make a virus scary? Oh, well, you know, I mean, yeah, everyone could see like mass hospitalizations and this, that, and the other, but like, how do you make it into a villain? Well, let's just make it turn people into villains, you know.

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The scary thing about it is most zombie adaptations, the scary part is not one individual zombie. Yeah, it's always massive size groups of zombies. The sheer number of groups coming at you, you can't do anything to fight off that many. You don't have enough resources to take all those zombies out. Yeah. You could take like you could take out one or two, maybe, but you know, you couldn't survive multiple zombies. And I think a lot of adventures.

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Which ones? I'm sorry, which ones? What do you mean? You said you couldn't survive multiple zombies, like just any zombie in general.

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Well, that's the the fear that the the scary part, right, is that it's the number of zombies, not the zombie itself. You know what I mean? Yeah. I know in recent memor uh uh media, they've tried they have made stuff where it's like the zombies are so scary and powerful that like even one or two could take out huge groups of people type stuff.

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Yeah.

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Like I know that this new 20 uh 28 years later movie.

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Which I think 28 days later, the original movie, I think that's one of the first media of the product or or virus zombies. Yeah, came up with the idea of the virus zombie. I think it's that and like Resident Evil.

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Yeah.

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I think was one of the properties to first.

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I think the game for Resident Evil came out before 28 uh days later.

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Okay. So then yeah. But you can tell the inspiration from Resident Evil kind of well, and I think that 28 Days Later is more popular than Resident Evil. No. It's not, you don't think so?

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Resident Evil is massive. Like they have a new one coming out in a couple months. People are really excited for it. Oh, okay. So it's just it's two different things. It's video you're talking video game versus movie. Yes. That's true. And then with Resident Evil, it's become right there around Resident Evil 6, it became really kind of goofy, right? Yeah. Where it's just like it's still a horror game, but like you're talking about like the like giant, unrealistic looking creatures and monsters, and it it became an action thing and less about horror. Well, and it became a bunch of movies, too. So I'm talking about the games specifically. Yeah, but I'm buttons. Even in the movies, that's how it was as well.

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Yeah, it crossed over because you originally were saying it's a game property, but it also did become movies as well.

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It started out as a just a strictly a survival horror thing. It was scary, you didn't have a lot of stuff, and zombies would come around the corner and you had to choose to either run or take care of them, but if you took care of them, you'd lose resources, limited resources, survival horror. And over time it became action. Like I remember in Resident Evil 5 where your main character is like pushing and punching a boulder and moving it, like a massive rock trying to push it to crush a zombie. It's so goofy, you know what I mean? It's so unrealistic. And so um Resident Evil 7 brought it back. It's still like ridiculous stuff happening, but they bring it back to a more realistic situation where you're it is first person, and that was one of the first games I played, scary games. Yeah. Where I turned it off and I didn't finish it because it was too creepy. Oh, really? Yeah. Seven, Resident Evil 7. It's is it's it's spooky. Yeah, dang. So they did a good job, is what I'm saying. But yeah, Resident Evil 9 comes out like I think January or February.

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Because didn't uh isn't uh oh Requiem, Resident Evil Requiem? Yep, I've got the wicket up right now. That's it. So but uh isn't like the female character from the movies, isn't it like what she's known for as Resident Evil? The character or the actress? The actress, sorry, the actress. Yeah, I think so. Like is she in anything? Uh she was was she not in she was in that movie monsters, like the one like where they see the problem is is I'm getting it and it's a massive the problem is is there's also another actress in the Resident Evil movies who plays Claire, I think.

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Uh-huh. And she is in a lot of stuff. And I always forget, is it Mila Jovovid? Mila. Isn't she in Underworld? Oh, that's a good question. Isn't she the main actress in Underworld? No. Who is that? Uh let me look it up for you. You need to have at least five tabs open at any given point.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, which is funny because that's a vampire werewolf movie. Kate. Kate Beckinsale. Kate Beckinsale. And then it, but I think it is Mila. Yeah, Mila. Mila Jovovich.

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I think she was in. She's in Hellboy, Resident Evil, the fifth element. Oh, she's Monster Hunter.

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Yeah, I was about to say, wasn't she in Monster Hunter? Uh this is Ultraviolet. Oh, yeah. Lost Lands. So she's a lost land. She's in a lot of stuff, but I guess the most popular thing that PDA know are in is Resident Evil.

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I didn't even realize this. She's in Zoolander.

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Who is she in Zoolander? She's the what is this? An actress for ants?

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The bad, bad guy girl. Oh, really? The I guess sidekick to the villain.

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Hmm. Who plays Claire in Resident Evil? Because I feel like I see her in a lot of stuff.

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Let me uh look it up.

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I think it's Claire Claire Redfield. I could be wrong though. Claire the name of the character is Claire? Yeah, and then what's her actress name? Um I'm looking at all the different I don't see a Claire. She wasn't in the first one. But she was in starting like in the third one. She was a consistent character. Because she's a consistent character in the games, Claire Claire Redfield is. What's crazy though is like the movies take elements from the games, but they do not follow the plot of the games. Allie Larder? Does that sound right? Not by name, Allie Larder.

SPEAKER_01: 32:53

Yeah, I I don't know. There's a bunch of different actresses that came up when I typed in Resident Evil Claire. Claire Redfield. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Claire Redfield. Resident Evil, Claire Redfield Actress. I've got Allie Larder. I've got Stephanie Panicello, Alison Court, Lori Rom, Yuko Keita.

SPEAKER_04: 33:24

That's that is her. Allie Larder. Allie Larder. She played in Heroes. Oh. She played the mom of the kid who could talk to Vending uh vending machines and ATMs. Oh. You know what I'm talking about? I never really watched that show. Really? Well, I think we watched like the first episode, but that was it. I really liked that show, but then it started going downhill. There was like a writer strike. So like there was a whole season that just was really bad. And so I kind of stopped watching it. Probably season three, I stopped watching it. Yeah. Like the first two seasons were really good. Really good. Oh, she's uh did you ever watch Final Destination? No. No? Dang. She was in the first two Final Destination movies.

SPEAKER_01: 34:07

Those are like suspense horror. Why would I watch those?

SPEAKER_04: 34:12

Me and Ashley end up watching all of them. And they're actually like I I hated trying to watch them when I was younger. Re-watch them, they're actually really good movies.

SPEAKER_01: 34:22

Yeah, but it's still not the genre I go in for. No, no.

SPEAKER_04: 34:28

What I'm saying is you should watch it. It's pretty good. I'm not gonna. Yeah, she was Nikki Sanders in she was in 55 episodes of Heroes. She's like one of the main characters.

SPEAKER_01: 34:40

This says she was in the 13th Warrior.

SPEAKER_04: 34:43

Was she though? I don't think so. That doesn't sound right. She was in Legally Blonde. Ooh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 34:52

I know people like that movie. I don't think that's right. I I think that the the Googles is wrong. Okay, it has her listed, but it doesn't have who she was. She was in one episode of Dawson's Creek. Uh really? I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_04: 35:11

Do you not know what Dawson's Creek is? No. Really? No idea. I feel like you're upsetting somebody right now. Why? I don't know. I feel like you've never even heard of Dawson's Creek. It was a Because I haven't. It was a very popular show in like the 90s, early 2000s. Over my head. No idea. No. Do you ever watch the Amanda Show? They parried it on there.

unknown: 35:35

No.

SPEAKER_04: 35:36

No. The Amanda Show? You know Amanda Bines? Do you know who that is? I'm sure if I looked it up. Did you ever watch uh Liar Liar? Not Liar Liar, um Big Fat Liar with Frankie Muniz. Yes, it's been a long time, but yes. She's the girl in that movie. Oh, okay. That's Amanda Bynes. Yeah, I see the picture now. Okay. So I'm gonna get into a huge trail here. Do you know who Drake Bell is and Josh Peck? Yes. Okay, here we go. Awesome. Let's get into some lore. Okay. Do you know of the show All That? No. It was a Nickelodeon kids' version of Saturday Night Live.

SPEAKER_00: 36:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 36:21

Do you know who Kenan Thompson is? Yes. Keenan Thompson started from All That.

SPEAKER_01: 36:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 36:26

So did Kel Mitchell, which they went on to do the show Keenan and Kel. Yeah, yeah. All right. Amanda Bynes was on all that. Okay. She went on. This is all Nickelodeon shows. So she went on to do uh the Amanda show. Okay. And as the supporting cast of characters, there was Amanda Bynes and two other kids, Drake Bell and Josh Peck.

SPEAKER_02: 36:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 36:53

Which, after that show ended, they went on to make Drake and Josh. Yes. Which had uh Miranda Cosgrove on it, that then she went on to do iCarly. There is a whole entire span of all these shows being connected, um, made by the same guy. Dan um what's his name? He he was under fire. There was a documentary come out with some awful stuff saying about these Nickelodeon TV shows and how they were taken advantage of these kids and stuff. But it was all Dan Schneider was made all these shows starting from like all that in the 90s up even till now. Like they're all connected where one actor moves on to then another one to move on to another to move on. It's all production connection. So yeah. Uh good stuff. But, anyways, Amanda Bynes had her own show that was connected to Drake and Josh from production standpoint. Gotcha. So, anyways, yeah, she was a huge actress in the the early 90s or late 90s, early 2000s. Yeah. Okay, I finally figured it out. What's that?

SPEAKER_01: 38:05

Allie Larder is in the 13th warrior. She has no lines.

SPEAKER_04: 38:11

Oh, she's like an extra or she's the serpent queen. Oh. Is she like Jack Black in um in Waterworld? You didn't know Jack Black was in Waterworld, did you?

SPEAKER_01: 38:22

No, I think we talked about that before. But no, like she is the she is the villain. But she says no. But you you don't see her until one scene towards the end of the film.

SPEAKER_04: 38:37

So the whole time they're alluding to this character, and you want to see her for a second? Well, because in the movie. Okay, spoiler alert for those who haven't seen it. Is it like Christopher Walken is the villain in Sleepy Hollow? But you only see him for like three seconds, the Johnny Depp movie. Yeah, kind of like that.

SPEAKER_01: 38:53

She is the leader of this tribe of insane bearmen. Basically the embodiment of Berserker mentality. Yeah. But they're they're under the guise of they're trying to make everything that they do supernatural and mystical. And so they portray it like there's a dragon or a fire serpent who paves the way with a fire trail and it looks like a serpent weaving. And so, um, but then they all have bear skins and so as as like hoods to portray the idea that they're bear men, they're not just men, they're they're a hybrid of the two. And uh I can't remember the folklore name for it. But anyways, and so they fight these guys, and the first couple times it's like they're this supernatural force, but they're able to catch on over time and realize like, oh, they're going out of their way to make sure they grab all the dead guys when they retreat to make it look like they never died. And they're it's not a serpent, it's It's actually a bunch of guys on horseback with torches just lighting the place up. Yeah. And and so they it's kind of like that whole thing with that uh Dwayne the Rock Johnson Hercules movie. Yeah, it's it's similar to that where it's it's not supernatural, but they're going out of their way to make it look supernatural. And it leads to basically their leader is in a deep dark cave. It's this serpent queen who's kind of like shaman-esque.

SPEAKER_03: 40:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 40:26

And they're like, if we kill her, they will fall apart and they won't be, they won't fight us anymore because she's the one who's controlling them. Yeah. So yeah. So Allie Larder is the main bad guy, but no lines. With only with no lines. You only see her for yeah, like maybe 30 seconds or something like that. When they kill her. Yeah. Nice. Oh, yeah. Antonio Banderas always wins. Nice. Even when he plays an Arab man in a Viking movie.

SPEAKER_04: 40:59

So speaking of movies, right? Me and Ashley went and saw Avatar Fire and Ash. Avatar 3. Yep. Good movie. Okay. I don't want to say too much about it because it just came out a couple days ago. Sure. Worth going and seeing. But like Predator Badlands. I did not like that movie at all. Um, but it uh it showed two trailers beforehand.

SPEAKER_01: 41:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 41:30

And I want to speak on both of them real quick. They had a I'm all ears. They had a trailer for Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey. Yeah, I've been hearing about that. It was the it was like a 10-minute trailer for this movie. And it was the entire scene, like it's uh this dude telling somebody the story of the Trojan horse. Like, like where it's like this, the Odyssey, but they're mixing in stuff from the Iliad a little bit. It's um what's his name? Odysseus? Yes, it's Odysseus's son being told the story of the Trojan horse. It's just a scene from the movie.

SPEAKER_01: 42:13

Telemachus? Yes. Telemachus is being told the story of the Trojan horse. Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 42:19

And it's played by Tom Holland.

SPEAKER_01: 42:21

Is it's Telemachus. Yeah, I saw that.

SPEAKER_04: 42:23

I saw that in the casting. And then what's his name? John Bernthal is the one telling the story. So I guess he's like the dude who is plotting to take uh Odysseus's um wife eventually. He's kind of like that villain. Oh, he's the villain. I think so. I think I think so. Interesting. So, anyways, he's telling the story, but then it starts showing the scene. And it's so cool. It's so just the them sneaking in, like in the horse, then coming out of the horse.

SPEAKER_01: 42:57

Oh, no, no. No. He's he plays this says that he's playing King Menelaus. Oh, yeah. Who's an ally to Perfect? Even better. I'm just going off of the trailer and assumptions. Yeah, because in the story, it wouldn't make sense if the suitors were telling the story of the Trojan horse because none of them went, fought the war. That was the whole point. They started doing the suitor stuff somewhere towards the end of the war. They assumed that he was dead. Yeah. And so they started taking advantage. They were all younger men, but they all started taking advantage of his absence and stealing all of his eating all of his stuff and all that crap. But King Menelaus would have been at the war and seen it all happen. And in the story, Ptolemaicus goes to um the king of I want I think it is Menelaus in the actual story too. But he goes to find out tidings of his father, if his father's still alive or not. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 43:58

So but it shows them getting the horse, like it's really like the whole thing is really tense because the horse in this scene is like on a beach and the tide is coming in. So they're inside the horse and they're starting to like try to survive inside it while the tide's coming in. They finally get the whole like the Trojans come in, right? Mm-hmm. And they get the horse, they bring it in, then it's nighttime, they come out of the out of the horse and try like are like starting to try to sneak around. They're taking guys out. They get like alerted. Like the inside of the city gets alerted that somebody's intruding. And so now they're battling, trying to get the door open because all their soldiers are outside the door. Yeah it's such like I'm so excited for this movie. Yeah. It was so it's just it was a whole 10-minute scene from the movie, and it was worth it's worth going seeing Avatar just to watch this trailer. Wow. You can leave after watching the trailers because the other trailer they showed. It has me so excited and so happy. So it starts out, right? It's just a dude, like, just kind of duding it, right? They don't really show who this dude is, right? Just different small little scenes, like he's like working on his motorcycle, and he's like walking up to his house and all this stuff. And then it shows his back and he's holding a baby, right? And he's just like standing there just holding his child and you know, looking at it, and then it spins around and it's Chris Evans, and then it cuts to say Steve Rogers will return Avengers Doomsday. No way. I'm not even kidding.

unknown: 45:43

Dang.

SPEAKER_04: 45:44

It's so great. I'm so excited. Okay, interesting. I thought that Ashley didn't feel the emotion that I felt in that.

SPEAKER_01: 45:53

Well, but it's because it's like all these guys were like, yep, we're done.

SPEAKER_04: 45:56

Apparently they're coming back. We're moving out, and now they're all coming back for Doomsday. He's my favorite superhero. Yeah. Marvel superhero, so I'm excited for it.

SPEAKER_01: 46:05

But it's just interesting because it was like Robert Downer Jr. and Chris Evans were both like, we're out of here.

SPEAKER_04: 46:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 46:12

And now that characters' arcs are finished. It's like, well, we need you as actors to come back and redeem the industry. So we'll just make you different actors from an alternative time.

SPEAKER_04: 46:25

Or different characters from the world. I think this is our Steve Rogers. Oh, really? Yeah, because he's got the baby. He's like it's he's having a life with Peggy. I don't know. It's apparently what they're gonna do is uh they started with Steve Rogers, but going forward up because the movie comes out in like six months. Yeah. It's about to come out. But like we have like, I think they're gonna do this like in front of a lot of different movies is all the different characters returning because they're starting with Steve Rogers, and it's like you don't because they didn't indicate anything, it just kind of started showing things, and then it reveals what is that actually a trailer for? Yeah, and I think they're gonna do that with a lot of characters because they're already Marvel's coming out and saying, We will sue you if you leak any trailers, because this trailer leaked. Like I already knew it was gonna, I already knew it was gonna be there. It was still cool. I told Ashley, I'm like, I wish it didn't leak because it would have been so much more impactful at the moment.

SPEAKER_01: 47:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 47:20

So I would have been so much more happy, but it's still cool seeing it. So go see Avatar to see these two awesome things. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 47:30

I've got the uh Odyssey cast pulled up, and it's so it's got Matt Damon as Odysseus, Tom Holland as Telemachus, Ann Hathaway as Penelope, Robert Pattinson as Antonious. Trying to think of who Antonineus is. Are they just bringing back all of these Christopher Nolan actors? I think Antonious is the predominant suitor. Okay. I think that's right.

SPEAKER_04: 47:58

Um, by the way, this isn't gonna be like that Dwayne the Rock Johnson where it's like, um, oh they take the fantastical out of and make it more modern. No, they showed like in the trailer, like they showed the scene and they showed little snippets and bits, and they showed like a Cyclops, and they showed all this. So it's gonna be the Odyssey. That's cool. I told Ashley, I'm like, this movie's gonna be like six or seven hours long.

SPEAKER_01: 48:20

It's gotta be. The story's insane.

SPEAKER_04: 48:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 48:23

Uh Zendaya is Athena. Charlie's Theron is Circa. Which is I can't remember what Circa is.

SPEAKER_04: 48:35

It's uh where you go to see like elephants and like clowns and performances to the circa.

SPEAKER_01: 48:44

Oh man.

SPEAKER_04: 48:46

The only reason why John is so into this is because of Epic.

SPEAKER_01: 48:50

Oh, she's the the nymph witch, that's who Circa is. Oh, gotcha. Yeah. Well, yeah, our yeah, we love the musical, but my wife read through the whole Iliad and Odyssey just recently. Oh, yeah. And I got through the Odyssey um um a couple of months ago. So it's kind of it's somewhat fresh on all of our minds. But Menelaus, jo yeah, John Bartha Bernthal will do good. Yes. A Greek king.

SPEAKER_04: 49:20

He always does really good what he does. I just hope he doesn't come in too much with uh that heavy accent that he has. I'm not really sure what you would call it, but it's not Greek. Yeah. I hope he doesn't come in heavy with that, but it looks it looks great. They are we already like I was looking up for like IMAX tickets because you gotta get them now already. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because when we went and saw Oppenheimer, we struggled to find good tickets for that. Oh, really? Anytime Christopher Nolan puts out a movie, you have to see it in IMAX. It is a like any Christopher Nolan movie is an IMAX movie. The same way with Avatar. We went and saw it in IMAX. It's also one of the few movies that I can stand to watch in 3D. James Cam James Cameron knows how to make a 3D movie. Yeah. And it it added to the movie. Typically, I got a terrible headache. That was like a three and a half hour movie close to it.

unknown: 50:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 50:22

Avatar came out just fine.

SPEAKER_01: 50:26

Do you know who John Liguz Liguazama? Liguizamo Liguazamo is John Liguazama.

SPEAKER_04: 50:37

Uh, isn't he the guy who played Lord Farquad in Shrek?

SPEAKER_01: 50:42

That would be funny if that's who it is. Oh, he's the mechanic from John Wick. Oh, no, sorry.

SPEAKER_04: 50:48

He uh, yeah, I'm thinking of uh I'll have to look it up later, but no, yeah. He is he played uh Luigi in the first live-action Mario Brothers movie. Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_01: 51:04

That's funny. Uh, anyways, he is the loyal servant, the loyal swineherd to Odysseus. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 51:16

They're just coming in with a stacked cast. Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at some of these people like it should be pretty good. Let me, I feel like I'm wrong on that Mario statement now. I don't I don't want to be wrong, hold on. I remember somebody got mad because Chris Pratt was playing Mario and it's like he came out and said, Oh, let me play it. Yeah. Because he said uh he said that you know you can't have a white American playing an Italian man.

SPEAKER_01: 51:47

Why?

SPEAKER_04: 51:48

He said he didn't like it.

SPEAKER_01: 51:50

Okay. Whatever. Uh yeah, this this looks like it'd be pretty good. I think it's funny that uh Robert Pattison's gonna be killing this character.

SPEAKER_04: 52:03

Uh name all the characters. They've all been in a Christopher Nolan film. That's why. Oh, he's bringing back all his heavy hitters. This seems like well, this seems like he's coming in to do like, oh, this is my big one, the final one. Like usually, you know, like Tarantino did does it all the time, but he did it with the hateful eight. Yeah. He brought back all his big names that he always likes to work with for that movie. Yeah. And so the same way with this, it seems like they're gonna bring back everything. Everybody. Is Christian Bale in it somewhere? Surprised he'll probably in it.

SPEAKER_01: 52:38

Uh I don't see him on the list.

SPEAKER_04: 52:40

Uh what would you say? Um, I'm waking on his name. Who was the main character? Playing Odysseus? Matt Damon. Okay, yeah. Matt Damon was in Interstellar. Tom Holland. Tom Holland. I don't think he was in any Christopher Nolan movie, but Tom Holland and Zendaya together in a movie again.

SPEAKER_01: 52:57

Yep. Zendaya's Athena.

SPEAKER_04: 53:00

Yeah, I was right. It was John Ligmazana played Luigi. Anne Hathaway. Anne Hathaway, she was in Interstellar. And she was in The Dark Knight Rises. Bapita Maongo? I don't know who that is. I'd have to see a face. Bapita. Put it up on your screen.

SPEAKER_01: 53:17

Uh 12 Years a Slave. And she was in Wakanda forever. Who was she in Wakanda? She was like the like I guess you could call it the romantic. Oh, okay. His girlfriend. Yeah, girlfriend-esque character. Okay, yeah. Yep, and she was in a scary movie, it looks like. Uh what was it called? Call Us.

SPEAKER_04: 53:44

Us, yep.

SPEAKER_01: 53:44

Looks freaky.

SPEAKER_04: 53:45

Uh Jordan Peel has made three horror movies: Get Out, Us, and Nope.

SPEAKER_01: 53:51

Gotcha. Sorry, it's not, it was Wakanda, not uh it was Black Panther, not Wakanda Forever. She was in Black Panther. She was in Wakanda Forever as well, I think. Oh, okay. As a character. She was Nakia. Um, my wife was telling me yesterday that she was looking at different people who because we're doing admin right now. You know, during this recording, it's still leading up to Christmas.

SPEAKER_04: 54:16

Right. Oh, we need to preface it. We are in the joyful season and all that fun stuff. Christmas is three days away from this recording. That's why we're not bringing up whether or not I've been whammed or not, because we haven't finished the contest. Even though when you're listening to it, the contest will be over. It's not over for us.

SPEAKER_01: 54:35

Correct.

SPEAKER_04: 54:35

Um, but we'll bring that up and you'll hear it probably next week, whether or not I uh if I got whammed or not.

SPEAKER_01: 54:43

Yeah. I never thought, so anyways, we're talking about Advent. We're we're in the middle of it. We've got like a little study that we do each day leading up to Christmas. So it's 24 days. I never thought about this, but she brought up like some people, they just read the book of Luke for Advent because Luke is 24 chapters in in the Bible. And I was like, that is a really good idea. That's the end, I mean, you get the entire gospel story leading up to the birth of Christ. And I don't know, I just thought I was like, that's a really good idea. I did not think about that. So yeah, so we're gonna be doing that next year, I think. Awesome. But uh yeah, uh as the boys get older, they engage better. And so it's like, how do we put, and I guess we can end on this because we've gotta end this. How do we put more of God's word into our day-to-day lives? Put it in Minecraft, put it in Minecraft.

SPEAKER_04: 55:46

There you go. No, but have an entire Bible map.

SPEAKER_01: 55:49

Seriously, though, side tangent, there are more and more Minecraft content creators who are becoming Christian and they're making their Minecraft content about sharing the gospel. So I found one the other day, they created a Bible server in Minecraft where they try to recreate scenes from the Bible and the Minecraft server. So it is happening. Let's hop on it. Let's get on there. But uh, no, yeah. How do we how do we put more of God's word in the day-to-day? Because, you know, we made the joke earlier about it being my sword. I strap my sword to my back. Yeah. Um, but I mean, that is the sword of the armor of God is the word of truth, which is God's word. And you can look at it as his Bible, which he's given to us as his word. It's also Christ, the word of God. In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. He was in the beginning, and all things were made through him, and without him, not anything was made that was made. That's Jesus. And he is the sword of truth for us to be able to cut through the devil, the devil, and all the lies of the enemy in darkness. So it's like, how do we equip that and use it as you would use a sword? How do we cut through lies? How do we cut through evil and darkness? And it's it's training. Yeah, you become efficient with something when you train with it. So that's what I'm thinking about. That's what I want to end the podcast's thoughts with today is how do we train with our sword of truth to become proficient and efficient with it.

SPEAKER_04: 57:33

Um and with that, John is announcing his read through the Bible. Um I'm sorry, I'm blanking on what we we did when we did it uh earlier this year. Your um inductive studies. I couldn't think of a inductive study. Oh yeah. I'm kidding, though.

SPEAKER_01: 57:50

No, but I I think that is something you and I will have to talk about, but we're gonna I think we should try and incorporate that to every episode. How do we make intentional Bible time into every single episode? And then also for everybody listening and for myself, how do we make more intentional time where we are gaining and equipping in the Word of God? So yeah. Everybody leave your comments. What are your thoughts? What are your practices for getting into God's word? And what are maybe some ideas that you can pass off to others to be more if proficient with their Bible time and with their Bible? So yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 58:28

Uh with that being said, well, I was gonna say also, sorry, because we always have to end on a joke, sure. Yeah, so are you a synthetic rubber person or uh or all natural rubber person?

SPEAKER_01: 58:41

Are you all natural rubber or are you synthetic rubber? Are you just a petroleum byproduct or are you a tree sap? Are you a tree sap? You're a tree sap. Christ is Lord. In the kingdom is now. We are the Saints Service. After three days, he let it go. Oh, man.