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Welcome to the Saints That Serve podcast, where each week your hosts dive into the crossroads of faith, culture, and the unknown. Christ is Lord, and the kingdom is now.

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We are the Saints that serve.

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I'm your host, Jarus. And I am Jonna. And this is episode 60. What? No. 58 40. 30. What are you doing? 58.

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It's called a bit. Subtract, add, divide. It's called a bit, sir. You're a bit a uh actually it's 59. Sorry.

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Oh, I was wrong either way for my bit. Welcome to episode 59 of the Saints that serve podcast. With your hosts. Already said my name. Johnny. Johnny and Jarriss. Jarris and John. Yeah. That's us. That's us. But there's only two of us. There's only two of us. I don't go by any other name. You have John, Jonathan, Johnny, Jim.

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Thanks for putting all my aliases out there for all to see. If somebody You want to keep going? If why don't you give them my mailing address?

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It is 123 Fake Street. No, it's 1602 Pennsylvania Avenue. That's right. I forgot about that. Yeah. So if you have any fan mail strictly specifically for John, Jonathan, Jim, or Johnny. Or Asian Jim. Asian Jim.

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It's an office reference. Office reference. Those who aren't offended.

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Right. You can send it to Oh.

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Yeah, 1602 Pennsylvania Avenue. Yeah, I don't think it has actually the address.

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It's not. I was trying I was trying to remember what you said. Yeah. It's 1600, I think. There's no 02.

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About to find out. Hey, guess what is that 1602 Pennsylvania Avenue? It's not the White House. It is a White House. It's not the White House, though. It's not the White House, but it is a White House. What is it? In Fairmont, West Virginia. Wait. It's 1602 Pennsylvania Avenue, Fairmont, West Virginia.

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Sure, but what's the address to the White House in Washington, D.C.? Oh, well. That was my point. Because you were saying 1602 Pennsylvania Avenue. No, send. All right.

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Everybody send your any mail. 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Northwest Washington, D.C. 2050. Care of Donald Trump. Oh. What?

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Oh, oh, you mean like to be delivered to you. Yes. But any any mail for John for this podcast, send to Donald Trump.

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Dude, could you imagine anyone right now who has the name Donald Trump that's not Donald Trump?

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How much how many Donald Trumps besides two of them do you think there are?

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I'm just saying, just think of just a total random guy happens to live in, we'll just say Seattle. His name's Donald Trump. And I bet you people just give him all sorts of problems. And he's just like, I'm just trying to live my life.

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He does have a son that's Donald Trump Jr., right? Yeah, yeah. Okay, just making sure. Yeah. At least two Donald Trumps in this world. That's true. There are. Because they're but that's his like youngest son or oldest son. His young youngest son is Baron, right? Correct.

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Okay.

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Baron Vin Trump. And that has been your political talk for this week.

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Everything is on our Yeah.

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Because we're that good at talking politics. Yeah. We didn't actually state any political views. We just talked about an address and the lineage lineage. Lineage? Lineage of. The liturgy of Donald Trump. Hey, do we got any announcements? We pray for you. Every single Friday. Has there ever been a Friday that we didn't? Not that I'm aware of. Because it's every single Friday.

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Every single Friday. We are gonna pray for you guys. Every single Friday. Make sure you send in your prayer requests.

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At the bottom of the description of this episode, there is a link that you can press and it will send you to a pre-filled message. Too long.

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You're taking too much time.

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To pre-filled message that will allow you to send us our prayer, send you your prayer. Oh my god, I messed it up so bad. I was on a roll, but you messed me up.

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Or you can, you know, message us on social media or email us. In song. In song.

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No.

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Uh email us at saints that serve at gmail.com. Or the other thing I said. Or the other thing that he said. Or sang. Or sang if you kept up with it.

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It wasn't that hard. I wasn't like. You know what? Never mind. It's fine.

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No. Don't oversell yourself. I the technicality of what you did was pretty impressive. Yeah. So not everybody can do that.

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Do you ever hear a song, right? Every time I turned it on. Have you ever listened to a song and like the flow is going really well? Like I like how the this verse is flowing. And they just kind of like stop it too soon.

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Yeah.

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You know, it's like, man, I wish they'd do more of that. Yeah, like the Yahoo jingle. Yeah. More of that. I'm saying is everybody's going to be really upset that you cut off my flow when they wanted more of the description and song. So in the comment section below, if you want more of the announcements and the form of a song, let us know.

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I thought I honestly thought you were going to tell everybody to dog me or whatever. So in the comment section, make sure you let John know how much you hate what he just did.

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No, I'm a kind person. I wouldn't let anybody do that to you. You know what? Petty does not describe you. That's how awesome you are. Thank you. You're welcome. Hey, you know what else is awesome? Jesus Christ.

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Yes, but but oh oh, you had something else on your mind?

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Yeah, the topic of this episode.

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Sorry.

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Uh yeah. You know what else is awesome? What else is awesome? Uh Legos. Hey! Hey, Tyler, this is your transition into Legos. Is that the button you meant to press? No.

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Everything is awesome!

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Thank you. Um one we YouTube would wreck it for us in like copyright us or whatever, but I think it would be funny to have that song just on repeat playing in the background the entire episode, and everyone just has to listen to everything is awesome for an hour.

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Is that it? Without us talking, just everything is awesome. Yeah, instead of us talking. But not the whole song. Just that part. Just that one uh clip. A little bit, yep. No, what I need to do is just randomly hide like really low volume within like the background music of this episode. It's just special.

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He's saying spaceship, not special.

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Well, I hear special.

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Spaceship. I don't know what to do with that information, but he's saying spaceship. He's a he's an astronaut.

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And his thing is spaceship. He's actually a Lego toy. He is not an astronaut. Well, the movie says otherwise. Um, I wanted I was thinking about this today. Okay. I wanted to just just talk about this very briefly. Okay. Of how for that song everybody everything is awesome. Yes. That The Lonely Island does a verse for that song. Mm-hmm. And how much that irritates me. That The Lonely Island does a kid song. Yes. Like, it's the same reason why like it irritates the heck out of me to see an actor or actress who is typically known for adult movies. Yeah. Doing things in children's movies. A great example to me is Jack Black. Was not a children's actor. And then he it's a little bit different because he transitioned to doing mostly children's movies. Yeah. But it's the one the people who do like the weird one-offs. Like, why is Kevin Hart in this cute kids' movie? You know what I mean? He is. Yeah. If you don't, don't. But if you go and like I'm I'm speaking directly to children who are listening to this. Yes. If you watch a Kevin Hart movie, it's not a kid's movie. It's not a movie a kid should be watching. So it's like, it always is irritating me. Like, why is this person who's known for making non-children's movies making and acting in children's movies? Because it's almost like a gateway type thing. It's like, oh, I like that actor. What else is he in? Nothing you should be watching.

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Yeah.

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And it's the same way with the Lonely Island. Like, why are they making like it'd be different if Andy Sandberg and the other guys from Lonely Island came in and like identified differently, like as a different group? They're identifying as their adult rap group throwing down a verse on a kid's movie song.

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Yes.

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So that irritates me as all. I respect that. So do you have anything else to say on that before we move into actual Lego talk?

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No. No? I was trying to come up with a reason why Jack Black started doing all these kid movies. I was like, well, he's got kids. Maybe he started doing it so like his kids money. But his kids are adults. Like, well, almost adults. One's one's 17, one's 19.

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When Kong Fu Panda came out, do you think that it was? Sorry, I'm looking at my notes. I'm okay, good. Uh sorry. Oh good. Oh no, I thought I was missing a whole page of notes. Like detrimental to what I'm trying to do here. Uh sorry. But uh what we say?

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Nothing. Don't worry about it.

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I don't yeah, I just I completely just spaced out there. Yeah, you're all good. Okay. You're all good. Alright, so you ready to move into this? Let's do it. Alright, so welcome to our first game. Oh.

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I thought we're gonna talk about Legos.

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Alright, you ready to start this? No, no, I'm not. No, yeah, I'm ready. Alright, are you ready for Builders and Believers? It's time for a brand new Saints That Serve game. We're calling Brick or Trick. Okay. Here's how it works. I'm gonna read Johnny. That's me. The name of a Lego set. That's it. No description, no clues, just the title straight from the box. Or from my imagination. Oh. Johnny has to decide if that's a brick, a real Lego set, or a trick. One I made up while eating too many gummy bears.

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Okay.

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But each round he gets one lifeline. If he uses it, I'll read the full description of the set, and he can change his answer afterward. Once that lifeline's gone, he's flying blind until the next round. By the way, I'm spreading these throughout the entire episode.

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Oh, great.

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Okay. We'll be dropping new rounds of brick or trick throughout today's episode. So just when you think that we're back to serious Lego history or movie talk, boom! I'll hit you with something like Lego set 4052, Gandalf's Unexpected Carpool. So are you ready? I'm ready. Alright, grab your bricks. Okay. Round one starts now. So the first round is everyday builds gone slightly wrong. Okay. These are your everyday Lego sets, grocery stores, garages, and traffic scenes. The ones that look innocent until you realize something's deeply weird. And those deeply weird ones are probably the wrong ones. Okay. Remember the rules, Johnny. I'll read you just the set name, and you've got one lifeline if you need the full description. Use it wisely.

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Do do I get a lifeline per round, or is it just one lifeline for the entire night? Per round. There are four rounds throughout the show.

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Okay. Through this episode. Got it. So are you ready? I'm ready. Alright. Regis. Regis? Mr. Philman. Who wants to be a millionaire? So before we start, I want to make this more interesting. Ooh. So up in the stakes. That's right. So into ribas. Alright. So I'm not going to tell you what you got right or wrong until the end of the episode.

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Okay.

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And if you can get well, I don't know what a fair amount is, a passing grade. There's 24 of these total.

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Okay.

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So if you can get a passing grade, I will get you a Lego for free. Wait. Like a Lego set or a single Lego? Not like a brick. Like it might be a minifigure. Anything around the price of$10.

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Okay. It's like you could just bring me like a two connecting block.

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One I find upstairs. Yeah. Something in the price range of$10. All right. I'll get you a Lego set. So there's stakes here. But if you lose, you have to get me a$10 Lego set. Okay.

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Do you already have one in mind that you want?

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No. That's hard.

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What if this was just a ploy to try and get a free Lego set?

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No. I'll if I have to buy it, that that's a bit of a twist, too. Just for the fun of it. I'll I'll buy it. Whatever it is.

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No, no. It's just he's like, babe, can I have this Lego set? No, we're kind of tied on money right now. How can I make sure I get this Lego set for free? I know. I'll play a minigame with John. Give him hope to win, but then crush him.

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Yeah, make this incredibly difficult.

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Yeah, yeah. Just so you can get the Lego set you won.

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Uh all right, yeah. I'm down. So passing was let's agree. A passing grade would be a certain percentage. So there's 24 questions total, six per round. A passing grade would be I mean a passing grade's 70%. So what's 70% of 24?

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All our math people already beat us to the answer.

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They already are out there like, it's it's this, it's this, it's this.

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70% of 24? You said 24 questions? Yes, 24 questions. I did that wrong. Uh I don't know, dude. I forget how to do percentages.

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What 70% of 24?

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70% times 24 is 16.8.

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So you just gotta get like 17. 16, 17 right? 17 right. Okay. That's fair. So you gotta get 17 right. I am not telling you if you're getting these right or wrong right now. Okay. So all right. So the first one, and we'll go a little bit quick because we're we got an actual episode to get through. Yes. So the first one is Lego set. And again, remember, if you're questioning it, you can get a description. But only one time per round. Okay. So your first Lego set is Lego set 60347 grocery store.

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Yes, that's a Lego set.

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That's your answer. That's my answer, yes. Okay.

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Number two, Lego Set 40483.

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Office coffee break. I'm just trying to envision in my head what it would look like and if I've seen it before. I don't feel super confident on this one. So I guess I'm gonna say no.

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So you're saying it's fake? Yes.

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Okay. Lego set number 10264 corner garage. What? Keep in mind, you have that lifeline. You got six total this round. This is number three. Okay, I'll use the lifeline on this one. Okay. Lego set 10264 corner garage is a 1950s gas station that doubles as a vet clinic because your dog deserves a tune-up too. No, that's not real.

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You don't think that's real? Okay. It can't be. Lego's not that outlandish. Okay.

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Lego set 60355. Watermelon car chase. No. You don't think that's real? That's that can't be real.

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Okay.

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You feel like you're being judged here. Yeah. Hard. You're like, wow, I wouldn't have guessed it that way. All right. Lego set 21336, the office. I feel like I did see that. I think that is a Lego set. You think that's real? Yeah. Okay. And then the last one for this round: Lego set 60406. Ice cream truck police chase. Yes. You think that's real?

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I think that's real.

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You locking it in?

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Yes.

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Okay. All right. And that's been the end of the first round of Brick or Trick.

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Yeah.

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Look forward to three more rounds. Woohoo! How you feeling? How you feeling after the first round? I think I'm wrong. You think you're wrong? Yeah. Alright, we'll find out later by the end of the episode. So the history of Lego. You want to tell us the history of the Legos? You go ahead. Tell us all about them Danes. It's uh, yeah, Denmark. Good job. Yep. The Lego Company was founded in Billm. I don't know how to say this. Billund, Denmark by Ole Kirk Christensen, a carpenter who began making wooden toys during the Great Depression.

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Wait, what is this?

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Lego. What?

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Were you looking at how it was pronounced? It's next to something else that I guess is also is what how you would say Lego. But I was like, oh, is there like a fancy way to say it in Danish?

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It's funny that you say that. The name Lego comes from the Danish phrase Leg Gottet, meaning play well. Oh. In 1949, Lego started producing plastic interlocking bricks, a risky move at the time when plastic was still viewed as cheap. And it still kind of is today. Yeah, I was gonna say, when was it not viewed as cheap? Mm-hmm. I don't know. I feel like Lego bricks, though, when you touch them, they do feel of quality. Yeah.

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Well, I uh I've been getting I don't know why, but I've been getting random ads for someone who's doing custom metal Lego figurines. That'd be pretty cool, depending on what it is. It's like magnetized, straight up metal. I think I've seen those, yeah. Yeah. It's interesting.

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Mm-hmm.

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The modern brick design was patented in 1958, giving Lego its signature clutch power pieces that snap together firmly but come apart easily.

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Yeah. What is your distinct Lego memory? I'm glad you mentioned this because I did want to bring this up as a question to ask the audience to comment. What's your what's your most memorable Lego set? And I don't have a specific one, but the Johnny Thunder series. Do you remember the Johnny Thunder? I think so. Was it that okay? It's their spin-off of Indiana Jones. Yeah. But yeah, he's just a jungle adventurer looking for treasure.

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Was okay. So coming over to your house as a child. Yes. You I always called it the Lego loot room, but it was your classroom and it had Lego toys in it. Yes. But it like what? Did y'all like inherit them? Somebody gifted you a bunch of Legos.

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Oh, that's the accumulation of different Lego sets over time. For just your family in general? From the all the boys.

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Yeah. So coming over, and at the time it felt like it was just wall-to-wall Legos in your house as a kid. It really wasn't. It was like a it was like a box of them. But it's just that you had them everywhere in that room. Funny enough, the room that's like right on the other side of the wall where we're at right now. Yeah.

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That's become my really trashy tool storage room that I need to clean. But yeah, it used to be full of Legos and we would sit in there for hours and play with Legos.

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We made stop motion movies and all this stuff. That was like very distinct because I didn't really have Lego toys in the traditional Lego sense. I had a very specific line of Lego toys that I'll get into in a little bit. But like in the sense of like the bricks and building whatever you felt like by combining because we just had a bunch of parts, I really didn't have that kind of stuff growing up. Yeah. It was I come over here and I would want to play Legos because it was so unique of a thing, experience. Yeah. And just like, oh yeah, there's that piece or whatever. But Johnny Thunder, sorry, I see your picture you got pulled up of him.

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Yeah, so that's what it looked like. This is the I guess the Arctic or the snow themed sets.

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Is that the set that you had got when we went to Discovery Mills and then there was a Lego store and you got a set with a Yeti? Is that Johnny Thunder? That was Johnny Thunder.

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He had three sets and it had those special figures. They were like the extra big Lego figurines. Yeah. There was a Yeti, there was a tiger, and then there was like a Chinese dragon. Yeah.

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Were the three different I don't remember what they were called, but but I remember that was such a cool day because we went and saw a movie. Like your your family invited me, and we all went to Discovery Mills. Yep. And that we saw a movie that was a skate park. We walked around the mall, got Lego toys. Do you remember what movie we went and saw? I do. No, what did we go see? The Pacifier with Vin Diesel. What I totally forgot that we went and saw that movie in theaters. That's such a crazy thing to say. We went and saw The Pacifier. Yeah. Because it was like the only like family appropriate movie. Yeah. It was like we hung out at the mall and then went and saw a movie as a family type thing.

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I don't remember this set. The Lost Treasure of Ancient Greece. Johnny Pippen and Kilroy travel to Greece to find the Golden Bull, believed to be hidden in a labyrinth of a labyrinth guarded by a Minotaur. Johnny wears a diving suit to retrieve the map revealing the maze's location.

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Dude, like there's so much effort going into the description of the set.

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Yeah.

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That can be for yours if it's the price of under$10, and you get all these questions right.

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I was gonna say it's definitely if it still exists, is not gonna be under$10 because more than likely there is no Lego set under the price of$10.

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No, there are. They're just really small. Like three pieces. Like a Lego figure. So while you look that up, Lego introduced the idea that all bricks across sets and decades should be compatible. Something no other other toy company had ever done. So which is crazy, it's like, yeah, you can buy something and they all go together. It's really cool.

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Correct. Yeah, you so you could get you could get a Harry Potter and a Lord of the Rings and a Star Wars set and build them and smash them all together. Smash them all together, all the universes interlink with one another. You could get a uh Simba Lego set from Disney's and mash it together with Fortnite.

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Fortnite. They do have Lego Fortnites now, don't they? Uh-huh. That's crazy. In the 1960s, Lego expanded internationally and launched Lego trains and Lego wheels, expanding play from houses to vehicles. So more than bricks. In 1978, we saw the creation of the Lego minifigure. So that's crazy now that I'm looking at this a little deeper, that they was they were founded in 1958, like the traditional thing way, right? But we didn't start seeing Lego minifigure characters until 20 years later. Wait. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah. 1958 saw the creation of Lego minifigure bringing characters and storytelling to life.

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Yes.

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So we didn't have characters for Legos. Like the traditional thing that we think of when we see Legos wasn't a thing until 20 years after the patent of the Lego brick.

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Yeah.

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In the 1980s, the introduction of theme sets such as Lego Castle, Lego Space, and Lego Pirates became a thing.

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Alright, I'm going to show you this picture because this was, I remember this being an iconic Lego set. That's a the Track Master. The Track Master? Yeah, Lego set. I think it's the number 5934. Yeah. That's a Johnny Thunder.

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Or it was the year that the set took place, 1934. 5934. Oh, sorry.

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Yeah, the year. Yeah, that's the year. I thought you said 1-9. No, but it's got it's got Johnny Thunder. It's got Kilroy. It's got a pterodactyl. Kilroy. Who's Kilroy? His little like a like sidekick. Yeah, elderly gentleman. Oh, so elderly archaeologist. So his alpha. Think think elderly archaeologist, adventurous archaeologist, and then female version of adventurous archaeologists. That's what the Johnny Thunder sets are. So all just like Pac-Man. Every single archae archaeological film has those at least those three characters.

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Yeah.

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They have a strictly archaeological individual, they have an adventurous archaeological individual, and they have a female version of the adventurous archaeological individual. Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones. Which has a Lego set. You could even make the argument the mummy as well has that.

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Yeah.

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I think the only thing that doesn't really have that would be Alan Cortermane and the It's not the Temple of Solomon, it's the something of Solomon. I don't remember what it's called.

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Do you think I'm curious because the thing about Legos is they're this is on eBay for$15. Huh?

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Can you do that for me?

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No. I said$10 and you have to win. You gotta win. You gotta win. No, what's so cool about Legos is they are they have properties to them, right? Not only do they have like the regular, you know, build this city or these theme sets, pirates, like a generic theme. Yeah. They have a lot of sets that are based around actual properties. So the Lord of the Rings and the Indiana Jones, the Star Wars, the Harry Potters, all that stuff. There's Lego sets to them.

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Yeah, and the the Johnny Thunder era is kind of like before IPs. Yeah, before we came out.

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Yeah, there was an era before they started really banking on these deep properties.

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But that's when you had all the cool stuff. Like you had the knights, the castle and the knights and the dragon set, you had the Wild West set, uh, you had Yeah, the things that like were more generic themes that allowed more for an imagination.

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When you add an IP to it, it's like, well, this is a Death Star. Yeah. It's always gonna be a Death Star and it can't be anything but a Death Star. But if you have like a Wild West town, you can rearrange the Wild West West town to be whatever you want it to be. Yeah. It can be anything you want it to be. But that's still always gonna be Harry Potter and always gonna be the castle. You know what I mean? It's like it's cool to have those things, but you know.

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And they played off of iconic things. Like here's a Johnny Thunder set. It's the Lego Mummies Tomb. Like obviously they're playing off of the Mummy movie. Are they though? When did that come out? This is just the for sale. I don't remember when it came out. I don't think it has a release date.

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So you can pre-order it?

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Yeah, you can yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Do they still make like Lego sets that aren't properties? I think like they have like Lego City, right? I I don't know. I mean they've got what do you mean exactly? Like, I just feel like anytime you see it, it's like these properties or these, you know, like the the Star Wars, the Batmans, the stuff of that nature. But do they really make original sets anymore like they used to?

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Yeah, but I think it's mostly most of the time it's Lego City.

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That's what I was thinking.

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Yeah, most of the time. It could be other stuff, but yeah, like coming out with original characters and stuff. And storylines to those characters. Yeah.

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They might have had like a a comeback with that when they did the Lego movie. Yeah, so they might have something like uh they do have the Lego movie sets. But that's kind of at this point not I mean, original characters for Legos, but it's not like the same thing as just releasing a set because all of the Lego movie stuff was just callbacks to Lego sets.

SPEAKER_03: 31:27

Well, and that's I think it's school sets. I think the reason that it's become what it is is because that's what sells now is properties. Is properties.

SPEAKER_02: 31:36

So even their original things are no longer one-off properties, they are part of a larger property set.

unknown: 31:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 31:44

Or let me rephrase that. Sets are no longer individual sets, they have to be part of something. Yeah. Even Lego City, which is kind of a generic, yeah, Lego, it's a city of something, it's still part of that overall set.

SPEAKER_03: 32:00

Yeah. Yeah, because they don't, I mean, I I feel like every kid, that's what they want now. They want the like they want the Spider-Man or the Iron Man or the Death Star or Yeah. Whatever it is, something that they've seen on TV, that's what they want.

SPEAKER_02: 32:20

Do you feel like that kind of speaks and reflects the generation where I don't want to use my imagination, I want that story told to me, even in toy form. This is Spider-Man, and he's gonna be Spider-Man, and here's Venom, he's gonna fight Venom, and there's no like real well, then Spider-Man goes to the Wild West because I have my Wild West theme that's generic.

SPEAKER_03: 32:43

Well, I think and then he goes to space. I think that they do that, I think that kids do that. I think that they get the the sets that are themed, but then they take those characters and create their very own scenarios with them. They just because it's that character, it's almost like that, you know, look, because okay, when we were growing up, there wasn't a lot of people, like if you ask them what they wanted to be when they grew up, most of them would say, like, oh, I want to be a policeman, or oh, I want to be a firefighter, or I want to be an astronaut, or I want to be the president. Like a lot of kids today, it's they name a character that they've watched on TV. So though those are kind of the idol idols of today for younger kids. Characters and less.

SPEAKER_02: 33:25

Yeah, yeah. It's it's well, let me ask you this. Okay, hypothetically, one set, the kid is giving given one set, it's the property of Spider-Man. Spider-Man building whatever, yeah. Uh, and he's scaling it and fighting venom. I've seen that around. So do you think kids today are breaking those down and building something else out of that? Or are they just following the instructions and build it and then following the storyline that is presented to them through the instructions?

SPEAKER_03: 33:53

I think kids are breaking them down like little kids left unattended, break them down and utilize what they want to utilize. The idea of like the set being built and then being kept together and following the story, that's from the adult Lego.

SPEAKER_02: 34:10

You think? Like it's But I'm talking about purposely saying it not just I'm playing with this toy, but I've built it, I'm done. Yeah. But then I'm gonna break it down to do something else different with it. And but but building something instead of just it's brokenness in pieces as scattered. It's like I feel like old Lego sets promoted doing something different with it. Yeah. Getting into my Lego set as a kid, right? Okay. Uh Bionicals. All right. I had a heck of a lot of Bionicles. They're not quite the same as there's a Lego branded storyline. Mm-hmm. I remember Bionicles. Yeah, they're so it was so cool, dude, back in the day. Yeah. But just it had that storyline, but all the pieces were unique and special to Bionicles set. They were only compatible within Bionicle, not other Lego sets.

SPEAKER_01: 35:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 35:07

And that's kind of where I was getting out of like I didn't really have Lego in the traditional sense sense. Because I was only within that uh specific, you know, housing or set limitations. Like they're compatible with one another, but only within that set.

SPEAKER_01: 35:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 35:24

So and I don't remember the point I was gonna make. Dang it.

SPEAKER_03: 35:28

Well, I was gonna say that the the idea of like getting the theme set, building it, keeping it together together.

SPEAKER_02: 35:35

I remember what I was gonna say, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_03: 35:37

That's heavily influenced by adult Legoers. Like there are kids that will they like my boys, a Lego set will stay together for maybe three to four days at the most. Eventually it gets broken down over time. They take the pieces that they want from it to then build something else or play, just play with it.

SPEAKER_02: 35:57

So you think imagination is the thing there?

SPEAKER_03: 36:00

It's not elaborate. I mean, my boys aren't super old, so they're not like rebuilding an entirely new set out of it, but they are making things that will m match what they are imagining and can run with it. However, I have run into kids that they build the set and it stays together, and the only reason that they're really intrigued with it is because of the figure minifigure. Like the reason the set was bought was because of dad. Yeah. And dad built it, and now and the kid plays with it, but like dad wanted the set.

SPEAKER_02: 36:34

You're you're describing the plot of the Lego movie.

SPEAKER_03: 36:38

Yeah. Well, okay, I went into a house. Can I just tell the story real quick? Yeah, I went into a house to do um some work, and there were on the main level at least$1,200 worth of Lego sets at the kitchen table. They had bought every single Harry Potter Lego set, even the big one, even the Hogwarts one, and had them all built and had them set up. I go upstairs, and they had bought, I don't even know how many different Spider-Man and Iron Man Lego sets, because there were like 10 different minifigures of those, and then a ton of different Legos spread out throughout the room. So, like they had bought an insane amount of themed Legos, and the kid who was young was not playing with anything except the minifigures.

SPEAKER_02: 37:34

Yeah. And probably the minifigures that they were allotted to be able to have and play with.

SPEAKER_03: 37:40

Yeah, and the older kid was the one who wanted the Harry Potter, I'm doing air quote, wanted the Harry Potter sets, but they were built downstairs with dad, and they stayed downstairs and they stayed put together, and the older kid did not play with them.

SPEAKER_02: 37:55

Yeah. So you you essentially is you hung out with dad while he built it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 37:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 38:00

Which is fun. I mean it's it's fine, but it's like at the end of the day, it should be something, and I agree with you that it should be just a little small toy broken played. Um I mean, a set built in a couple of days broken down, yeah, and then all those parts utilized. And that's kind of what I was getting at is like, I don't know if that's promoted anymore. Because with the bionicle sets, and this was the point I've forgotten now I'm remembering. Okay, is you actually when you bought a certain number of sets, right? Mm-hmm You could you would build it, but then in the back of the book, you would have a certain the it'd be steps one through five of 20 in the back of the book.

SPEAKER_01: 38:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 38:42

And you had to get another Lego figure like bine uncle toy and then a third one, and once you got them all three, you got all the instructions that you could actually break down your toys and build it and combine all those sets together for a new bigger figure. Okay. So I feel like Lego themselves promoted build it, but once you get them all, break it down and build it differently. Yeah. And I don't know if that's promoted anymore of like you're saying, there's too many adults who's like, it's a collector's item. Let me build it and it stays on a shelf built or stays in the box. I am a bit hypocritical saying break it down because I have a Lego set that's still in the box, I'll never open. I bought the Super Nintendo set. It comes with the not Super Nintendo, the Nintendo, the NES. It's a Lego set of that and a TV. If you build it, you can like twist a knob and it plays Mario on the screen. Oh, really? Yeah. So I'm a bit hypocritical on that, but it it's something I want to keep and have. I did get the Lego Mario sets for a while and build those, and then once I built it, I'm like, Alright, I'm done. And I think I gave those to you.

SPEAKER_03: 39:54

Yeah, and the boys played with them. Good. Play with them real hard. Good. And now they're a part of the mass of Legos.

SPEAKER_02: 40:01

And that's fine.

SPEAKER_03: 40:02

So that's fine. Yeah. But uh, okay. Do you wanna Yeah. Sorry, go ahead. No, you go ahead. What are you gonna ask? Because I'm gonna tell you no. Do you wanna know what holiday Lego sets are on the docket for upcoming Christmas?

SPEAKER_02: 40:22

Oh, like what's coming out?

SPEAKER_03: 40:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 40:24

Well, it's I guess it's technically out already, but I saw something recently. It was gonna be like Stranger Things, right? I'm not seeing Stranger Things. Okay. I know they have a couple sets. Well, what's cool is I get TikToks of like the sets that people like because apparently you can submit a set idea to Lego and it could possibly become made real. They have an entire program that does that. Well, one of the new sets is Gingerbread at At Walker. Oh, that's cool. That is pretty cool. But the problem is, is I go back and I was like, oh, that's cool. Well that is extremely themed. Extremely themed. Why why you never would have that on the on a shelf. Yeah, I was gonna say you'd only pull it out for Christmas. This is my Lego deck, I mean my Christmas decorations and their Legos.

SPEAKER_03: 41:13

Well, and that's like because Christmas does like Lego does do advent calendar boxes. Yeah. It's like each day on Advent, but they're pull out a Lego, it's a mini Lego set, you pull it out and you build it.

SPEAKER_00: 41:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 41:25

Would you have you ever thought about doing an Advent calendar type thing for your children?

SPEAKER_03: 41:30

We do do we do one, um, but it's a it's like a ornament goes on the tree and we talk about you know a different part of the nativity story. Oh, that's cool. So it breaks down the story daily? It get yeah, it kind of breaks down and and connects to old testament prophecy and and stuff, but it's not something like crazy expensive or anything.

SPEAKER_02: 41:53

Yeah, no, it doesn't have to. Yeah. So do you want to talk about the Lego movie? Yes.

unknown: 41:59

Everything is a gold.

SPEAKER_02: 42:01

But before we do, let's do round two of Brick or Trick. Alright. This round, they actually approve this? This round is all about Lego's most questionable corporate decisions, the ones that somehow made it past the marketing team. Same rules, Johnny. I'll only give you the name, but you can burn your single lifeline if you need me to read the whole glorious disaster of a description. Got it. Choose carefully. Choose carefully. Here we go. Set number seven. Lego set one oh two eight one. A bonsai tree. Yes. You think that's real?

SPEAKER_03: 42:48

Yes. Okay. Because they've got that whole chain of like plant Lego sets. That doesn't get built in, it's just a plant.

SPEAKER_02: 42:56

Yeah, but did they do a bonsai tree? Yeah. Okay. Lego set 4053. A neighborhood power outage.

SPEAKER_03: 43:07

What?

SPEAKER_02: 43:08

No. You don't think so?

SPEAKER_03: 43:09

Oh uh no.

SPEAKER_02: 43:12

Okay. Lego set 21327. Typewriter. Yes.

SPEAKER_03: 43:19

You think so? I'm 90% sure that I saw a typewriter set. Are you sure you just didn't see a typewriter? The Lego, Lego.com was just advertising a typewriter.

SPEAKER_02: 43:36

Number 10, Lego set 40469. Firefighters pancake breakfast.

SPEAKER_03: 43:44

Firefighters pancake breakfast. Yep. I feel like that's a doable set. But at the same time, I don't know, it doesn't sound right. Don't forget you do have a lifeline. Alright, we'll use it on this one.

SPEAKER_02: 43:58

Alright. Lego set 40469 Firefighters Pancake Breakfast. Firefighters hosting a community breakfast. Includes syrup, fire extinguisher, and a minor cat kitchen blaze.

SPEAKER_03: 44:11

No.

SPEAKER_02: 44:12

You don't think it's real? I don't think so. Okay. Question 11. Lego set 40460. Roses. Yes. You think that's real? And then number 12, Lego set 40518. High speed bus stop. High speed bus stop? Yeah. Sure. I think it's real. Okay. Okay. And that has been round two of Brick or Trick. Yeah. Alright, let's talk about the Lego movie. Everything is awesome.

SPEAKER_03: 44:49

It's a spaceship.

SPEAKER_02: 44:50

Special. What are your thoughts on the Lego movie? When I watched the Lego movie, I watched it actually for the first time here in this house. I came over and we watched it here. I think me and you watched it together for the first time. Okay. I went home and re-watched that movie right after watching it with you. I never re-watch movies, but that movie is pun intended awesome. Yeah. It is a good movie. It is a good movie.

SPEAKER_03: 45:21

Everybody, hold your butts.

SPEAKER_02: 45:23

It's just like they did the thing that Lego should be is like a just a combination of all things Lego. Yeah. All the references, all that stuff. And I loved how they made it about family. And made it about it can't be this corporate thing. It's about play. It's about imagination and everything. You are the special. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 45:48

We're all the special. Now start tearing your city apart and building whatever comes to mind.

SPEAKER_02: 45:55

That's right. We gotta beat big business. Yeah. But it's just like I love that Will Farrell is in it as the villain and the dad. The dad. And it's just because the boy is seeing him as the villain. Yeah. Because it's literally all about just that. Is it real? Like, that's my question. Is it real or is this boy imagining everything? Because it kind of like makes you think it's real, but it's all because of the boy's imagination that these the storyline is taking place.

SPEAKER_03: 46:25

Yeah, I think that's the funny. I think that's the interesting side of it because it's for one and two. In both Lego movie and the sequel, it's like they're in their own universe and they're doing their life. But it's allusions to the real world, and there is a reflecting story going on there that interlinks with their story, but it's almost like that, it's not like they're totally unaware of the real world. They're aware of it in a in a weird sense. And they make weird references, like, you know, the staircase. Yeah. The the man upstairs. The man upstairs, yeah, yeah. Or what it's not staircase, it's stair. Is it stairgate? Stairgate? Doing a pund to stairgate. Yeah, yeah. I think it's what they call it, stairgate.

SPEAKER_02: 47:21

But uh, yeah. I love how like in this movie, like a lot of famous people have one lines. Like Channing Tatum is Superman in this movie. Yeah. And it's just stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03: 47:32

Yeah, yeah. The the craziest one is Jason Momoa because he voices Aquaman, or he is Aquaman in the live action. Yeah. And then he voices Aquaman. Yeah, he does it, but the only line Aquaman has is just a shout. Really? Yeah, he just goes, so that's it.

SPEAKER_02: 47:52

Do you think that this was I feel like this was before he was cast as Aquaman?

SPEAKER_03: 47:57

No, because it was the Aquaman. This was the I'm sorry. In the second Lego movie. Okay. Is when there's Aquaman. The first one doesn't have the Jason Mua Aquaman.

SPEAKER_02: 48:08

Okay, that's fine then.

SPEAKER_03: 48:09

I think that they do So have they had the original Aquaman? I think that they've got the original Aquaman in the Council of the Builders. Uh-huh. But uh, yeah, not the not the real one. Not the Jason Momoa one. But seriously, that movie is really good.

SPEAKER_02: 48:27

It's just like it's one of those like it's a kid's movie, but it's made for everybody. Back before it's either really childish or way too much adult material in a kid's movie. Yeah. It was that perfect blend of anybody can enjoy this, but we don't hide anything in this. Yeah. You know, to try to indoctrinate your children or whatever. And it's just the message is be a good dad to your child, let your child be the child, and everything is awesome.

SPEAKER_03: 48:57

This says that the Aquaman does have a can the Jason Momo Aquaman has a cameo at the very end of the movie. Which one? The first one? Yeah, when Bad Cop slash good cop reunites with his parents. He's in the background. Which was Liam Neeson. Yes, which was Liam Neeson, which is crazy. Yeah. Will Farrell, Liam Neeson, Jason Manoa. Well, not in the first one. He's he doesn't have a voice. Apparently, he was in the first one though, of course. No, no, just the Aquaman figure. Oh, the figure. The figurine was in there, like of his image. Yeah. But those guys, and then who else's voice is in it? It's uh Chris Pratt's the main character.

SPEAKER_02: 49:40

Chris Pratt, Will Arnett's in it, Nick Offerman, Charlie Day, Liam Neeson, Morgan Freeman. That's the crazy one. Morgan Freeman Morgan Freeman plays like the wise old guy.

SPEAKER_01: 49:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 49:53

Elizabeth Banks is wild style.

SPEAKER_03: 49:58

Oh, Charlie, Charlie Day. Charlie Day is Benny the Astro. Who screams special? Spaceship. Alison Bree from Community, this TV series. She plays the Uniqitty. Uh Jonah Hill. Colby Smolders is Water Wonder Woman. Will Forte as Abraham Lincoln. That's awesome. A house divided would be better than this. That's his line. Just in case.

SPEAKER_02: 50:26

Oh, Billy D. Williams comes back as C3PO. Uh. Wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_03: 50:32

No, that's Lando Calersian.

SPEAKER_02: 50:34

Oh, sorry. You're right. Anthony Daniels comes back as C3PO. Oh, no, sorry. I'm completely they they've got this worded weird. Anthony Daniels, Keith Fer Ferguson, and Billy D. Williams appears as Protocol Droid C3PO and Smugglers Han Solo and Lando Calrizian.

SPEAKER_03: 50:50

Yep.

SPEAKER_02: 50:51

Is what it says. But the way it reads is when you're going through the list, it's like Billy D. Billy D. Williams repears as Protocol Droid C3PO because he's the last one on it. It's weird.

SPEAKER_03: 51:01

Keegan from Key and Peel is Foreman Jim. Oh, it's funny.

SPEAKER_02: 51:10

Let's see. Other appearances from License. No, no, no, no, no. Welts is crazy. Shaquille O'Neal portrays a Lego version of himself. Oh really?

SPEAKER_03: 51:19

Yeah. Oh, Jorma from uh Lonely Island is in it. Oh, yeah. Who is he? Shakespeare.

SPEAKER_02: 51:27

Lego Shakespeare. Uh Dave Franco's in it. Like you said, Keegan, uh Michael Key. Yeah, man. Like Will Art. I love it when like people were passionate enough to come on and just like, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be in this movie just because, even though I'm gonna yell or have one line. Yeah. Will Arnett, I think, was super funny. Yeah. He was so funny, in fact. Yeah. So funny that Wait, wait, wait. How funny was he? He was really funny.

SPEAKER_03: 52:02

He got his own movie.

SPEAKER_02: 52:03

He did. That's what I was I was that's what I was getting at. Same character, same bat Lego Batman. Because he plays Lego Batman. Mm-hmm. And like same style of the movie and everything. And it did so well that they did a spin-off Lego Batman movie. Yep. Starring Will Arnett as Lego Batman. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 52:23

Do you know who uh my wife's favorite Lego or my wife's favorite Batman is Will. Lego Batman. Will Arnett's Lego Batman. It's a good movie.

SPEAKER_02: 52:30

It's it's I think it is it's funnier than the Lego Bat uh than the Lego movie. Yeah. But not as good as a as a movie as a whole, in my opinion, if that makes sense. Yeah. The jokes are funnier, but the Lego movie itself is a better movie.

SPEAKER_03: 52:45

They do a they do an insane amount of brand crossover. Because they've got all the different, like they've got Lord of the Rings reference in it, they've got um the Wizard of Oz reference in it. You're talking about the Lego movie. Lego Batman.

SPEAKER_02: 53:02

Oh, really? Yeah. I've seen it once. I need to go back and watch it.

SPEAKER_03: 53:05

Okay, yeah. They've got all the Lego Batman villains, they've got a bunch of different heroes and and stuff, but they also do cross over into other. They've got like the robots from Doctor Who. Yeah. Uh like all kinds of crazy stuff. Darkness, no parents, lots of money. Yeah. Yeah, great movie.

SPEAKER_02: 53:33

Movies, movies. Lego is actually does really good when they make movies. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 53:38

The Lego Bionicle movies are really good too. See, that's what like when you think of Lego, you think of just the set, but it's everything. They've got video games, they've got movies, they've got technically songs, they've got the actual sets, comics, comics. It was a plushies, yeah. Everything.

SPEAKER_02: 53:58

Like Lego Bionicles put out like a hundred issues of this of comics that came with the Lego magazine. Yeah. Do you did you get Lego magazine? Yeah. Oh yeah. You know why you got it? Do you remember why? I'll have the reasoning. No. It's free. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah. It's free. That's not like a jab at you or anything. I got it for free. The annoying thing was is like you get issue after issue. Like I had like all these story issues, like issue number one of Bionicle, and I was reading them all. Had piles of them, I don't even know where they're at now. But after like you subscribe to the magazine, and then once it runs out, they don't ask you if you want to resubscribe, they just cancel it. Yeah. And then if you like, by the time you realize, well, I'm not getting this anymore, and you resubscribe, it takes a while for you to start getting it again. Yeah. I missed out on like three or four issues. Oh, wow. I'm like, made me so mad. Dang. It's like I don't even know how that story ended. I think I just like at that point I'm like, uh I'm done. Yeah. As a kid, when you miss out on three or four issues back in the 90s, there was no other way to read them. Yeah, yeah. Like now it's like, yeah, I can find something online. It's like the same way like you missed a episode of TV show up, you might as well just give up on it. Yeah, yeah. Because you may or may not see it again in maybe six months when they re-air it. Because there was no Netflix, it was live airing, and you couldn't just go back and rewind or anything like that. That's why TiVo was such a big deal. TiVo, dude.

SPEAKER_00: 55:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 55:28

Crazy. But we're not talking about TiVo now. We're talking about Legos. Legos. Okay, so your favorite set was Bionicle. It was, yes.

SPEAKER_03: 55:36

And yours is Johnny Thunder. Johnny Thunder was the series, the Lego set series that I thought was like so cool. I maybe it it's psychological. Maybe it was like because it's I had a nickname for John. My nickname's Johnny. My nickname's Johnny. Yeah, that's me. I'm like projecting myself onto this Lego that I would never attain to what the real Johnny Thunder.

SPEAKER_02: 55:56

Yeah, I'm gonna go adventure in travel all around the world. Right? Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_03: 56:02

Okay, I've got my own little game for you if you're ready for it.

SPEAKER_02: 56:06

I am. I am ready for your game.

SPEAKER_03: 56:09

What are the top three most expensive Legos?

SPEAKER_02: 56:19

I'm gonna are my guess is they're almost all Star Wars.

SPEAKER_03: 56:23

Well, let me rephrase that. One of them is a Lego, the other two are sets. When you say a Lego, is it a specific piece or a minifigure? It's a minifigure.

SPEAKER_02: 56:34

It's gonna be is it a is it a property? Yes. Yes. Is it Star Wars?

SPEAKER_03: 56:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 56:41

Is it Boba Fett?

SPEAKER_03: 56:43

No.

SPEAKER_02: 56:44

Dang it.

SPEAKER_03: 56:45

Lego 14 karat gold C3PO minifigure.

SPEAKER_02: 56:48

Dang it. I was the reason why I asked if it was a minifigure is I thought it was like an actual solid gold brick. Oh like an actual minifigure gold brick.

SPEAKER_03: 56:58

Do you want to guess for how much it sold? It's gonna be like$10,000. You're right on the money. It's$10,000. It's that's it's crazy. All right, number two, it's called the Black Knight's Castle. Do you want to guess how much it sold for? The Black Knight's Castle sold.

SPEAKER_02: 57:14

Is it is the Lego brick the most expensive? Or sorry, the C3PO. Is it? Yes. Yeah. I'm gonna say$6,562. Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 57:29

$3,000. Dang. Yeah, drastic difference. Alright. And this next one is called Cafe Corner. What do you think it's sold for?

SPEAKER_02: 57:40

Opened or unopened? Opened,$62. Unopened. It's valued at$1,300.$2,000. Dang, I was better on that one. Yeah, yeah. What about unopened? I mean opened. It doesn't have that.

SPEAKER_03: 57:55

Dang. It just says$62. Just a list of the top-selling ones. But yeah. The$14 karat gold C through PO minifigure is the most expensive Lego.

SPEAKER_02: 58:08

Probably because do you do you think the amount of gold that in that minifigure is valued at$10,000 or the fact that it's C through PO?

SPEAKER_03: 58:17

Let's find out.

SPEAKER_02: 58:19

How much does a minifigure weigh, and then how much gold at that weight is currently valued at? It's going to be like$300 worth of gold, and the fact that it's a minifigure is what makes it valuable.

SPEAKER_03: 58:33

The value of 14 karat gold depends on its weight and the current market price, which fluctuates daily as of late 2025. 14 karat gold is approximately 74 to 75 per gram or 2,320 to 2,322 per troy ounce.

SPEAKER_02: 59:00

So if you hold a minifigure, it can't be worth$10,000 worth of gold in that minifigure. Definitely not. I don't know, you know what I mean? Like a minifigure is probably like a gram.

unknown: 59:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 59:17

How much does you spell it out, sound it out. Mini figure weigh. Approximately three grams. And but that's the keep in mind, gold does weigh more than plastic. So it's probably going to be more grams. Do you hear yourself?

SPEAKER_03: 59:39

What do you mean? It doesn't matter what the substance is. Yes, it does. Because gold though, three grams is three grams. No, the mass of Lego might be bigger than that of gold, but if it's three grams of Lego, it will weigh the same as three grams of gold.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:01

No, you're talking about how much does a plastic minifigure weigh is three grams, but the minifigure made of gold is not made of plastic. You're saying that the C3PO is heavier. Because it's made of gold. We're still talking about the size of a minifigure. Okay. I see what you're saying. A minifigure of plastic and a minifigure of gold weigh differently.

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:22

Okay. Alright. I see what you're saying. I thought you were trying to.

SPEAKER_02: 1:00:28

What weighs more? A gram of feathers or a gram of rocks? Yeah. What? No.

unknown: 1:00:33

No.

SPEAKER_01: 1:00:34

Have you seen that video? Yeah. Yeah. It's really funny.

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Oh, it's the rock. No. No, because a brick weighs more than feathers. No, but they're both a gram. I think it's both a kilo, but yeah. But my point is, is if you put the amount of gold in a minifigure, it is going to weigh more and hence be more vet more grams. So hypothetically double it, six grams. Hypothetically, it's still not going to be worth$10,000 worth of gold in it, is at the end of the day, the point. We'll just have to figure out the ratio. And that's been science with John and Jarriss. Actually, math class or geology. I don't know. Geology.

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Geology. It's weird. It's funny that you say that. I'm actually reading a story about the guy who founded the science of geology or came up with the three core principles for it.

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Well, suit up. It's time for brick or trick round three.

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Dang.

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I didn't want to talk to you anyways. We're heading to galaxies where Lego logic drifts as far as its astronauts. Some of these titles are genuine NASA collabs. Others sound like fever dreams from a sugar addled five-year-old. Here it is. Time for round three. Space, sci-fi, and slight panic. Remember about that lifeline, by the way. Alright. Question 13. Lego set 70708. Hive crawler.

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Hive crawler? That's right. I feel like I had a Lego set that had the name crawler in it. And it was sci-fi-y. I'm gonna risk it, Regis. I'm gonna say yes.

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You're gonna say yes to Hive Crawler? Yes. Okay. Question 14. Lego set 7317. Arrow tube hanger. Arrow tube? Arrow tube hanger. No. You're gonna say no? Gonna say no. Okay. Number 15. Lego set 75382. Stormtrooper Beach Day.

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I don't think that's a set, but I'm gonna risk it and say yes. You're gonna say yes, okay. Just because it just sounds like that would be something random that they'd throw out there.

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Number 16, Lego set 10283. NASA Space Shuttle Discovery. That sounds on the up and up.

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Does it? You do have that lifeline. All right, go ahead. Give me the lifeline.

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What's the full description of the NASA guy? The NASA guy wearing his bathing suit in space wears a bathing suit in the moon and eats ice cream. No, I'm kidding. Gorgeous model of the shuttle includes mini Hubble telescope and instructions that make you cry. That make you cry?

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Yeah. That's actually in there.

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Yeah. No. I retract my statement. I will read it one more time because I felt like I read that weed. Gorgeous model of the shuttle includes mini Hubble telescope and instructions that make you cry. That's the description.

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Yeah, I'm not gonna agree with that. I don't think that they said it that way. Okay. We're talking about the Danes here. They don't get emotional.

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Yep. Alright. Lego number 17. Lego set 70425. Newberry Haunted High School. New Barry Haunted High School? N-E-W-B-U-R-Y Newberry. No. You're gonna say that's fake? That's fake. Okay.

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I already feel like I'm gonna owe you a Lego set.

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And for this round, number 18, Lego set 75272, Obi-Wan's apartment.

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Yes, that's real. You think that's real? That's what I'm gonna say. Okay. I feel like it's like what I'm thinking of is his house, and it's called Obi-Wan's house or something like that. Oh, instead of apartment.

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And that has been round three. Whoa. I'm starting to lose track of all my paperwork here.

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So the density of gold is 19.3 grams per centimeter.

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Okay.

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Oh, so you did the real math. Okay. Here we go.

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Third power. Okay. And then depending on the plastic, but if it's like a polyethylene, then the density is about point.91 grams per centimeter to the third power. Okay. So very drastic difference in density. So you are 100% right. Yeah, I am. The way you worded it confused me, but you are correct that the C3PO 14 karat gold minifigure is significantly more heavier than the average.

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Meaning it's more than three grams, meaning it is more valuable if we're basing the value of gold on the amount per gram. Yeah. But still at the end of the day, it is not$10,000. No, it's not$10,000 worth of gold, no. I would say probably like one or two, maybe.

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Maybe. Yeah. I'm gonna let's see, how many times does 19.3 divided by I could be wrong on this, so people correct me if I'm wrong, but it I think it's plat the plastic to gold density would be to like even them out would be twenty one grams. So so like if it takes point one if it takes point nine one grams of plastic for a centimeter, it takes nineteen point three grams of gold per centimeter. That's the density difference. So you'd have to put twenty-one twenty-one grams to a centimeter worth of plastic to match the weight of gold. Okay. So whatever that is, so that's I mean, times. How would I do this? So it's six I I think it's six times the difference. So you take so I'm not a math major for everyone out there, so please correct me if I'm wrong. But I think that the C3PO minifigure, the 14 karat gold C3PO minifigure, weighs six times the amount of the average minifigure.

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So 18. Because you said three. Six times three is eighteen. Eighteen grams. That sounds right. Worth of gold.

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18 times 75 is what? 18 times 75 is 1,350. So that's the amount of gold in that. So it's all it all comes down to the fact that it is a Lego. It is a Lego figurine of C3PO that happens to also be gold.

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Michael, is it pure gold or is it like did it say it was actually pure gold? The whole thing is solid. The whole thing is solid, 14 karat gold.

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Terrible investment. Terrible investment. The question is who made it? Did Lego actually make that, or did a fan make it and then put it on the market? And then is Lego getting some money from that from their patent being infringed on?

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My statement would be that if some a fan made that solid gold, it should not count as a most valuable Lego because we're talking about official Legos, because I can make something out of solid gold in theory that doesn't make it an actual Lego piece, though. Yeah, it would have to be manufactured by Lego to make it officially the most valuable Lego piece, Lego set piece or whatever. Alright. Remember what we were talking about earlier? The off-brand Lego? Yeah, you brought up like I said duplo, but it's not duple duplo's official. Yeah, Duplo's owned by Lego.

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This one's called Lumi Bricks. But the I the thing about Lumi bricks is every single set that they have has lights in it.

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Do they have the same interlocking brick mechanism that Legos have? Yes. Then that is a copyright infringement upon Lego.

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I think that the structure of the brick is different, but it looks like it's pretty much the same thing.

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Yeah, it's just they add lights to Lego sets. It'd be funny if they were buying Lego sets and adding lights. Just adding lights. Well, but that's the thing, is they sell for cheaper. Yeah. But they don't have any that looks like Lego toys.

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Like if I if I saw that, that's a Lego. Look at the hands. Hold on. They're different. The hands and the arms are different. The head's the same because it's got the little click on it. But the bodies are different. Look at that Gandalf looking guy right there.

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That's literally a Lego head with a Lego beard. Yeah. This is this is copyright infringement territory, to be honest. They're encroaching heavily. They are going to be hearing from Lego's lawyers. Hunting cabin.

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Look at that. Oh whoa. Anyways, I just wanted to bring it up that there's an entire world of interlocking bricks that's not Lego. But are compatible with Lego because they copyright infringement. Lego just happens to be the founder or the creator of it, and still to this day holds the mostly the monopoly on it. Which is crazy. But anyways. Hey. Hey. I've enjoyed this talk about Legos. I'm glad.

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Do you have anything else you want to talk about? Just the last round of this game. Alright, let's do it. Alright, let me find my note. This is a mess.

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What do you think is the I'll close this before one? Yeah, help uh fill in the time while I get my notes together. And people go ahead and comment this with your most iconic Lego set that you remember or that you like. What is the lamest Lego set you've seen? Johnny Thunder. Where you're just you're just like, uh, that's dumb. Why would they even do that? Well, what is your answer? Mine is the botanical sets. Really? I don't get them. I don't get it. I don't like the sets that are like, hey, build this and it becomes a hammer. You know what I mean? Like it's just object sets. I don't get it. Someone explain it to me.

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I will. You build it, and it's meant to have that sit on a shelf. As a as a prank when me and Ashley first started dating. My now wife, by the way. Yes, yes, yes, yes. My wife. I bought a bunch of those Lego plants sets. I bought an orchid, a vase, like a like a flower vase with flowers in it. Lucky bamboo. I didn't get that. And then I got the succulents.

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Succulents.

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They've got an Animal Crossing Lego sets. They do.

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They do.

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But I got those sets. I built them and then spread them all around their house, all around all around her house at the time.

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Okay.

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While she was she was out, I went over and I decorated her house with Legos. And she came home like, why is there Legos all over my house?

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What child came over and left their toy?

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So that is uh still in our house to this day, is those Lego sets laying around. So I I built the flower flowers and 3D printed a vase for the flowers to go in. They got the Great Pyramid of Giza Lego set. Oh, nice. Just in case. Just start naming them off. All right.

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Let's see.

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Welcome to round four of Brick or Trick. We're getting down to the end of it, down to the wire. Haunted Mansion. Haunted Mansion. Like the ride or the movie? I'm gonna say the movie. I'm gonna say the ride.

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Because it doesn't look like there's it's the ride.

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Oh. A lot of leg, a lot of Disney stuff.$90.$90, Bob. Yep. And now for our final round of brick or trick. The fantasy and licensed round.

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The fantasy and the licensed round?

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Yeah, so fantasy and licensed properties. Alright. Wizards, elves, superheroes, and brand crossovers no one asked for. Alright. Some are shockingly real, others belong in LEGO's vault of bad ideas. And one last time reminding you, you do have a lifeline this round. Alright. You're gonna need it. I'm gonna go paperless. I'm just gonna start being paperless on this. I'm going digital. I really should, because I literally just ruined my notes jumping around on this. Alright, here we go. Question 19. Lego set 21342. The insect collection.

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Ooh.

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That's what it's called, the insect collection. And if you like, you can get a description. Uh but you do have. No. Not real? Not real. Okay. Number 20, Lego set 76421. Dobby, the house elf.

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Yes. You think that's real? I think it's a minifigure set. Or not a mini, I think it's a figure set. Or like you build Dobby. Okay.

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Number 21, Lego set 2134. Winnie the Pooh's morning jog.

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No. You don't think so? Winnie the Pooh doesn't run. His morning walk.

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Okay. 22. Lego set 40522. Gandalf's unexpected carpool.

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Gandalf's unexpected carpool? Yes. No. You don't think so? I do not think so. Okay. I do not believe that to be real.

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Number 23. Lego set 21337. Table football.

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Yes. You think that's real? They did come out with a at one point where there was the sports, and you'd put the figures into the little like bouncers to be able to play these games. They did basketball, they did soccer. So yes, I think it's real.

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Okay. And don't forget, you do have that uh that lifeline? That lifeline. Okay. Probably should have used it. All right, Lego set number question 24. Lego set number 40599. Harry Potter Ministry of Paperwork. Ministry of Paperwork? Yes.

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I don't know the ins and outs of Harry Potter, but that doesn't sound right. So I'm gonna say no. I don't think there's a ministry of paperwork. My ministry of paperwork? Yeah, but I don't think that there is one, so I don't think they'd make a like a set named that.

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You're confident enough not to use your laugh line? All right. Didn't even need that last laughline. Alright, can you do me a huge favor, sir? Maybe. Can you just kind of give us a little bit of an outro as we close out this episode while I count up your uh count out the answers?

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I didn't mean like music.

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Yeah, so some of the some of the Lego sets you didn't know were out there was the Evolution of STEM, uh, the Orient Express Train River Steamboat. Uh some other high up there Lego sets, meaning high up there, meaning expensive. Let's see what else we got. Crusty crab from the Simpsons. Not the crust, the crusty burger. Sorry, crusty burger. From the Simpsons, the Krusty Crab. No, it's the Krusty Burger. What are the odds though? Spongebob, SquarePants, and The Simpsons both have a burger joint called the Crusty Something. Well, that's the crusty, he's Krusty the Clown. Yeah, but why is it called the Krusty Crab? Because he was a crusty crab. I don't know. Anyways, Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas. Here's an interesting one I've never seen before. Beauty and the Beasts Castle. The entire castle set. They've got a build figure of Hey Hey. I'm just on the Disney page right now. That's why it's all Disney stuff. Let's see what else we got here. No, no, no, none of these are speaking. I have your results. Let's see what else we got here. We've got a Mirabel keychain.

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Mirabel.

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Anyways, alright, I'm ready.

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I'm ready for them. Alright, so we had 24 questions. Okay. You were supposed to get 17 correct. I know I didn't get 17 correct. You got 16 correct.

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No!

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Cruel fate. Oh my gosh. Alright, what Lego set am I getting you? I don't know. We'll have to find out. And we will post it on social media and figure it out. I don't know. I don't know. I think it'd be funny if you found me one and got me one.

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We're gonna find this out right now.

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You wanna go to Lego.com. Price it out. We're gonna go to shop. So while you find and pull it up, I will say the ones you got wrong is funnier than Tony. The corner garage was real. You said it was fake. Okay. You got a lot right at the beginning. So you all you got all of them on the first round right except for the corner garage. Okay. On round two, you got all of them right except for high speed bus stop, which you said was was real and is fake.

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Okay.

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The aero tube hanger was uh was real. You said it was fake. I'm gonna get you a Vespa. And then you had a huge streak of getting them wrong where you said the stormtrooper stormtrooper beach day was real, it was fake. NASA Space Shuttle Discovery, you said was fake and it was real. I just can't believe that they would word in the instructions that it would make you cry. Make you cry because of how complicated it is to build it.

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Yeah, okay. Still.

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Uh Newberry Haunted High School, you said was fake and that was real. Okay. Obi-Wan's apartment was fake.

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I'm getting you Z Blob's robot and vehicle adventures. Ooh. I don't even know what that is.

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And then in that final round, you said the insect collection was fake, that was real, and you got the rest of them right. What was that? What fantasy was that? Great question. Oh, come on. The bug fantasy collection. Unbelievable. So a brick, uh, three disturbingly realistic bugs on display stands, great for learning biology or ruining dinner. What does that have to do with fantasy?

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Great question. You're misleading me, sir. That's why I lost. You barely lost. Don't don't give me that. I could have had a blob's vehicle adventures. Do you do you want another lava battle?

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A nether lava leather nether lava battle. So we'll look this over and uh we'll get the set and I'll build it while we uh while we record the next episode of the podcast.

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Ooh, Spider-Man vs Ghost Rider.

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Ooh. So thank you so much for joining us on this episode of the Saints that serve podcast. That's the Saints that serve podcast. I have been your host, Jarriss. And I have been your equal host, Johnny. And uh, before we go, one last thing. Special. Special special. Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now.

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We are Saints That Serve Question thirteen Lego says farted.