Speaker 2: 0:02

Welcome to the Saints that Serve, podcast where, each week, your hosts dive into the crossroads of faith, culture and the unknown.

Speaker 1: 0:14

Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now. We are the Saints that Serve. Hello, welcome to the Saints that Serve podcast. This is episode 45 of the Saints that Serve podcast. I am your host, jairus. Joining me today is Jonathan Ding. Got him Got him.

Speaker 2: 0:58

That was really good, thank you. Have you thought about going into an acting career?

Speaker 1: 1:02

No, no, but have I ever talked about how I am the voice of a multi-million dollar company?

Speaker 2: 1:10

hello there I don't know why I did that one, that one, because I said hello, yeah, yeah, no, that's really cool yeah, like legitimate, you are a big deal.

Speaker 1: 1:19

I am a big deal. I'm not gonna call out my company's, but I work for an IT department for a company and we implemented a new phone system and I had the opportunity to record my voice as the intro, like thank you for calling the company, press one for this, two for this. I am the directory voice for a multimillion-dollar company.

Speaker 2: 1:42

Nationwide or international?

Speaker 1: 1:44

Nationwide.

Speaker 2: 1:45

If it's in Canada, it's international.

Speaker 1: 1:49

We aren't really in Canada, we're only.

Speaker 2: 1:51

Mexico.

Speaker 1: 1:52

Not really, no. No, okay, southeast, a couple locations in Texas, Florida, up north Georgia. But yeah, this is episode 45. 45, baby Of the Saints that Serve podcast. Five episodes to go and we'll be over the hill.

Speaker 2: 2:17

Yeah, we'll be old.

Speaker 1: 2:18

We'll be old.

Speaker 2: 2:19

We'll be looking hard at retirement.

Speaker 1: 2:22

That's right. We're, in the next 10 episodes, at the age of episode 50, we'll be really heavily considering retirement.

Speaker 2: 2:32

Yeah, yep.

Speaker 1: 2:35

Us as people, not the show. We're going to always do the show.

Speaker 2: 2:39

The show is always going to go. We, as people, will always do the show. The show will look at retirement. Oh right, right, right, seriously, seriously considering always do the show.

Speaker 1: 2:44

The show will look at retirement. Oh right, right, right. Seriously, seriously considering retirement.

Speaker 2: 2:48

The show but then it'll realize that it will just never financially recover.

Speaker 1: 2:52

So it's going to have to work until it dies. Yep, Yep, Imagine, I was just thinking. Imagine being us at episode 1,000. Oh dude.

Speaker 2: 3:05

How many years is that?

Speaker 1: 3:07

it can't be too many like maybe, like I'm gonna say like seven years because we started releasing in august of 2024. That's right and we're coming up on our one year anniversary of the podcast and we'll be coming up on, you know, episode 50 ish, I think it's gonna be 52, if I had to guess 52 weeks is in a year no and we've released every week except one, except for one.

Speaker 2: 3:42

So 51 weeks or 51 episodes what day did you say august?

Speaker 1: 3:48

I don't know what day it was. Sometime in august it was august. Well, we'll have to do research and probably do something special for the 50th, for our one year anniversary yeah, maybe we'll do like uh like uh, we'll do like a live stream podcast episode where y'all can see our faces and whatnot, where we promised that we would do that by episode 50 anyways. Yeah, that's true. So we'll do it on episode not 50, but our one year anniversary episode. We'll do a live recording of the episode. We should get two people in here.

Speaker 2: 4:22

Just have four people. Have four people come in, since that's the max amount we can do anyways.

Speaker 1: 4:26

There you go, so look forward to once we do the correct math, we're going to have a live stream of the episode, and then there'll be a video of the episode.

Speaker 2: 4:41

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 4:42

And then the audio is. What we're trying to say is just tune in every week. Every week something's happening on the saints to serve podcast, yeah.

Speaker 2: 4:49

Every Monday we release an episode and you know that. We don't even have to tell you, you already know.

Speaker 1: 4:54

And what time does it release? On Mondays, 4am, 3am Dang, I changed it. I changed it to 3am so that when you, uh, you know you, sunday night, you laid down your your, you laid down your precious little head on your pillow, and you wake up and you say I wish I had some ray of sunshine in my morning, that ray of sunshine is us, the Saints that Serve podcast. That's right, so that you know you wake up and you just spend the time with the Saint boys in the morning. Who's up at 3 o'clock in the morning? Some hardworking fellas and ladies, yeah, I guess. So there's people at my company. People do come in at three and start working. Production starts, yeah, but that's like third shift though there is. There's technically not a third shift because we do shut down, oh Like it's not a third shift because we do shut down, oh Like it's not a constant open. You know, rotating shift. It's just that is their work. I don't know, man, anyways, anyways, you got any announcements?

Speaker 2: 5:57

Live worship night on August 1st at 6.30 pm. Join us on YouTube and hopefully Twitch no. No. At 6.30pm.

Speaker 1: 6:05

Join us on YouTube and hopefully Twitch no it was YouTube and hopefully Facebook, if we get enough people, and maybe last week, twitch went down on us.

Speaker 2: 6:16

The week before that, youtube went down on us. So we're hoping that YouTube will stay the same and we're hoping that Twitch will get better. And I've almost just given up on Facebook, because nobody's no one uses Facebook anymore. Nobody's using it and nobody's like yeah.

Speaker 1: 6:31

It is a bit of a I get why they do it, but it is also a bit of a silly requirement at the same time, because it's like I mean children cover your ears, but like the adult inappropriate stuff that pops up on Facebook. For me, a lot of the times is like how did you get past the vetting system?

Speaker 2: 6:54

I mean, nobody likes Mark Zuckerberg, so I guess he just does stuff he's like no one's gonna like me anyway, so I'm just gonna do what I want.

Speaker 1: 7:01

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 7:02

That's my opinion.

Speaker 1: 7:04

So like, so let that. Or they're blocking the Christians like something crazy, you know.

Speaker 2: 7:10

They could be blocking the Christians.

Speaker 1: 7:12

They see it right there, big Saints, saints.

Speaker 2: 7:16

And it's not football.

Speaker 1: 7:18

It's not football.

Speaker 2: 7:21

Hey, there you go, yeah, but that's it. I mean just you know we're on all social media pretty much. You know Instagram, threads X, facebook, youtube, we're on all that stuff. So make sure you're following us or subscribed, and outside of that we're praying for you every Friday.

Speaker 1: 7:43

Every single Friday In your prayer just reach out.

Speaker 2: 7:45

You can email us at saintsatserve at gmailcom, or you can message us through a direct messaging link at the bottom of the description for this show.

Speaker 1: 7:54

Also, we have a website and we have a website saintsatservepodcom. Saintsatservepodcom and saintsatservecom. We have two domains. Com. We have two domains.

Speaker 2: 8:08

Uh, that's all I got for announcements awesome.

Speaker 1: 8:11

So then, tyler, this is your transition into the main topic, which is we didn't really give this a name yeah, we don't.

Speaker 2: 8:21

We don't really have a name for it, just nostalgic internet usage, early internet.

Speaker 1: 8:27

Well, but it our early internet, our early internet yeah, which for a lot of people is like crazy to like like ancient. For a lot of kids who are so used to youtube, yeah, but in the grand scheme of things, like in our lives and just the internet in general, youtube is not that old. No, I mean we have content on there that's like 10 years old. I think 2006 was when YouTube became a thing.

Speaker 2: 8:57

I'm looking it up right now 2005.

Speaker 1: 9:01

I was close, yeah. So I guess for us, I guess for us we'll be talking about our early internet experience before YouTube, yeah, and what we did to entertain ourselves on the internet Interwebs. So yeah, I would say the age range is probably from like probably 10 to 15 in that age range.

Speaker 2: 9:28

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 9:29

So there you go. So I said, johnny, bring forth two websites that you used a lot, your most formidable website, bring forth your most formidable websites, but. And just let's talk about them. And then there is one that we were kind of just kind of made a joke about our last one and I'm like have we ever talked about that on the podcast? And that's what kind of brought up? Yeah, so we both brought two of ours and then we're going to talk about the third together, because we both know about the third one and we've utilized the third one in our life as entertainment a lot we have so because it's entertaining so let's jump into it um members.

Speaker 1: 10:14

Do you remember myspace? I do remember my okay I'm just wondering, if you remember, myspace is all. Yes, I have like a list of website community kind of stuff that people got on all the time.

Speaker 2: 10:25

Okay.

Speaker 1: 10:26

And if I this one steps on your toes, I just want to call them out and see if you remember them. Okay, and if this steps on your like on your list, we'll stop and we'll go from there. Okay, but do you remember MySpace? I do remember MySpace. My goodness MySpace. I do remember MySpace. My goodness MySpace. Do you remember LiveJournal?

Speaker 2: 10:47

I don't remember LiveJournal.

Speaker 1: 10:48

LiveJournal, or as it was called later, on Zanga.

Speaker 2: 10:52

Oh, okay. Zanga yeah that's something I was going to talk about.

Speaker 1: 10:57

And do you remember Newgrounds? Yeah, newgrounds.

Speaker 2: 11:01

I remember Newgrounds.

Speaker 1: 11:01

And E-Bombs World and E-Bombs World and E-Bombs World. Yep, oh my gosh, I should have checked before we did this to see if any of these sites that we were talking about still exist.

Speaker 2: 11:12

Guess what.

Speaker 1: 11:13

I think Newgrounds, we're jumped into the internet. We are, I know.

Speaker 2: 11:18

Newgrounds still exists.

Speaker 1: 11:20

Newgroundscom yeah, and it comes up, it's and it's all. It's the orangey, yellow and black. Goodness, the theming yeah it's still yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ebum's world let's not worry about it.

Speaker 1: 11:37

But ebum's world was kind of like just a bunch of flash video hosting games and flash video sites. So was newgrounds, you know. Yeah, it was the way that media was created before youtube, before these easily accessible videos existed. You had to make things on. Flash, whether it be games or animations or just videos in general, was generated through what is it's like a internet file creation format. It's called Flash, yeah, and it's gone. Now Flash it's not really supported, but it was made by Adobe Good old Adobe, good old Adobe. And then, of course, zynga and MySpace was the big social media platforms back in the day. Myspace was the big social media platforms back in the day. Where Zynga was. I always attribute this to Zynga was middle school, myspace was high school and Facebook was a college type thing.

Speaker 2: 12:39

Would you agree with that? I guess so, but I think it's more of just the generation where they were at, because it came out that way. It came out Zynga first and then MySpace and then Facebook, yeah, and people just transitioned over as it went on.

Speaker 1: 12:56

It's crazy because for me, I used a lot of Zynga and then it took me forever to transition to MySpace. I was like I'm not going to make another one of these and I eventually did, and MySpace lasted for a while, yeah, and then Facebook came along and Facebook is still around, yeah, but a lot of people have kind of transitioned to Instagram and to TikTok. But, yeah, it's not like where, if you go to MySpace, nobody's really on MySpace, no, and I doubt Zynga is even a website anymore. I know MySpace. Last time I looked, myspace still existed. Yeah, myspace still exists.

Speaker 2: 13:33

As far as Zynga goes, I think it's technically still around, but it's like pretty much been shut down. But yeah, dude, I remember for MySpace, because it was, it was all it was really big about customizing your page.

Speaker 1: 13:46

Yeah, you could put in your music and your.

Speaker 2: 13:49

You could make a playlist that just starts playing whenever someone comes to your page.

Speaker 1: 13:52

You can make a page that was so covered in little animations and colors and flashes and all this stuff that would crash your computer. Yeah, like I remember going on to like, like some pages, or like some chick made it, and it was just super over glittery and it crashed my website.

Speaker 2: 14:07

Uh-huh.

Speaker 1: 14:07

Like it's crazy.

Speaker 2: 14:09

I'm trying to see if MySpace has a listing of how many users they have.

Speaker 1: 14:14

Probably not, they probably.

Speaker 2: 14:16

It doesn't look like they do. Also, it is very different from what it used to be. Yeah, Describe it. It's just a ton of articles like articles so it must have to do with music.

Speaker 1: 14:28

I know that myspace really got into the big music scene there for a minute. Yeah, so that makes sense yeah, it makes sense that music is on there where is your uh grande del, uh del tortuga or whatever it was grande tortuga. Yeah, was that on MySpace or was that on Facebook?

Speaker 2: 14:47

Facebook. Oh, okay, it got uploaded to Facebook like kind of privately.

Speaker 1: 14:54

And I mean, that shows how old Facebook is. Yeah, you were just a boy.

Speaker 2: 15:01

Just a boy, just a little boy. Yeah, I guess MySpace is just straight up music now. I tried to search my name to see if I was still on here.

Speaker 1: 15:12

And it's just music stuff. Imagine the one person who is still on MySpace trying to utilize it. And they just get on one day and it's just all. Of it's gone.

Speaker 2: 15:21

Yeah, they can't even socialize with people.

Speaker 1: 15:24

What people? Yeah, exactly On the side of communication, because we were kind of talking about those social sites. Do you remember what was used before social media to communicate with people? Email Besides email oh no, instant messengers. Oh no, instant messengers. Oh yeah, aim or MSN messenger yeah, I'm sure there was a couple others, but those were like the direct messaging back and forth platforms before things like Zoom and Teams and what's the one I'm trying to think of that was used. Man, what was it? Are you talking about the one through Microsoft? Yeah, skype, I couldn't think of Skype, yeah, so, yeah, skype just got taken down recently. It no longer exists because it was. Microsoft owned both Teams and Skype and it was like, well, we're not going to have two competitors. Yeah, back when I was doing prank phone calls my YouTube channel for prank phone calls yes, that's what I used to call people because you were able to actually buy a phone number through Skype. Yeah, and then it was a digital call that I was then able to record straight from the computer.

Speaker 2: 16:47

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 16:47

So I use that for a lot of my videos for a long time.

Speaker 2: 16:52

Yeah, some of those are pretty funny.

Speaker 1: 16:54

Eagle Pranks on YouTube. If anybody is interested, yeah.

Speaker 2: 16:58

Go check out Eagle Pranks. I need to apologize to the audience. I am congested for some reason and I got stung by a bunch of yellow jackets today, so I'm a little fatigued.

Speaker 1: 17:11

Johnny earlier said I got stung by yellow jackets. I said wear, show me. He's like I'm not showing you. You're going to poke them. And the thing was is I was going to poke them.

Speaker 2: 17:20

Yeah, I didn't want to get poked on the belly.

Speaker 1: 17:24

So, anyways, that was kind of just us talking about some brief experiences. But what is your number first one?

Speaker 2: 17:33

Well, my first one was Zanga.

Speaker 1: 17:34

Oh, it's Zanga, yeah, so let's talk about that a little bit more then.

Speaker 2: 17:37

Yeah. So I remember Zanga being introduced from my friend group. Like hey, we're all on Zynga and we're all talking to each other there and I was like, oh, okay, cool.

Speaker 1: 17:51

Cool, but what do you do on it?

Speaker 2: 17:54

You make a profile. That's the thing I watched my other friend on his computer because no one had phones that were smart On his computer get on to Zyanga and message somebody and was just talking with them. But he could also, you know, share on a general page his thoughts or whatever, yeah, and so I was like that's pretty cool, and everybody else is already on there that I know, so might as well give it a shot, yeah, uh. So yeah, I downloaded it and started messaging friends and I actually did. It was my first experience with talking to a stranger online.

Speaker 1: 18:34

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2: 18:34

It was through Zynga. Yeah, how old was he? It's funny because there was a very good chance it could have been a he, but it was a her. So yeah, it was weird. Like you know, it is the typical middle schooler. Like I'm trying to flirt, you're not very good at it, uh but I was in musical theater at the time and I invited her to come see the show and I was like she's not gonna come, like we've never met each other in person, and then she showed up with her dad and her mom.

Speaker 1: 19:08

What the hell and.

Speaker 2: 19:09

I was like what are you doing here? Why are you here? You invited me, yeah, so I mean, she ended up being cool. We ended up being friends for a little while, but it was so funny because that's my first experience being a stranger online, yeah, and it ended up actually being a normal person, right, who wasn't crazy?

Speaker 1: 19:27

right, like that's crazy to me to think that you that happened and it was just. It was actually a person you met online yeah because, like and I'm going to try to keep this as kid friendly as possible but there are people on those types of sites that would pretend to be Something they're not, something they're not to hurt.

Speaker 2: 19:52

Yeah, Other people. Other people or to get something for themselves, so that's the go-to right Is like oh, you met a stranger online. That's weird.

Speaker 1: 20:03

Which is funny because, like as a grown man, that's how I met my wife.

Speaker 2: 20:07

Yeah, yeah, but that's a little different because that's through that was through a dating app yes you know, like this was just a random like hey saw this person on a social media website, saw I messaged them and became friends with them and and you know it's like, and then we started talking. So, yeah, like you think about doing that like, especially like Zynga was, even though it was maybe the popular thing at the time, by no means like mainstream, you know. So it was like kind of fringe. And here you are making friends with random strangers on a fringe website.

Speaker 1: 20:44

I know, you know it's just like and because of what you did, I mean there was a huge, massive push from people like Chris Hansen to really catch those bad people that were doing this Like it was and it still is a major issue still happening, yeah, where? But it kind of started with those instant message chat rooms and, you know, social media sites and that's why we as a society really push for, you know, kids to not be on these things unsupervised.

Speaker 2: 21:18

Yeah, well, because, like the internet and online, communication has eliminated consequences, so people can act however they want to act or say whatever they want to say, and not face immediate consequences, unless they have some kind of following. And the following is like we don't like that, goodbye. And then they stop following them. Yeah, like we don't like that, goodbye, and then they stop following them. Yeah, you know, if you're a nobody, you can say whatever you want to say on the internet and no one's going to be able to do anything about it.

Speaker 1: 21:50

Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2: 21:56

At worst, you're going to have somebody who, in the comments, opposes what you say. Well, I mean before the internet and talking to people online. You know, if you said something that was out of line, you got put back into line. You know, I remember that being a thing Like if, if I said something to somebody and they didn't immediately like attack me or hit me or something, it was brought to my parents and my parents put me back in line. Yeah, you know. So now it's like yeah, you can say whatever you want to say and get away with it Whatever you want and always get away with it.

Speaker 1: 22:27

And then you have these people who get away with these things online and that's why you have such nasty people like rude, awful and disobedient, awful children you see everywhere, because they see it online now and they have that free voice with no consequences, like you said. Yeah, and it just allows them to build up confidence. And we also kind of live in a society when you can't discipline somebody else's child. If they came up and hit you, you can't do anything about that. Yeah, I mean you can, but it's not going to end well for you, unfortunately, and I'm not talking about you knock the kid out or anything, but even to get onto them to tell them to stop.

Speaker 2: 23:19

Yeah, I think that the worst community online is Xbox live chat. Yeah, I think that the worst community online is Xbox live chat. Yeah, it's funny, but it is pretty bad.

Speaker 1: 23:32

I would never let my child communicate with anybody in any form or fashion online. Yeah, which is really funny because me and you both had such free reign of that. Yeah, because me and you both had such free reign of that. Yeah, but I'll be honest, it wasn't as a general way. I'm sure the awful things were there, yeah, but in a general sense it wasn't bad like it is now.

Speaker 2: 23:59

Yeah, well, and it was brand new to you.

Speaker 1: 24:01

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 24:02

You know what I mean? Our parents didn't really know what was going on because it was so new. And then, to top it off, like culture was still had a little bit of the like hey, you need to be respectful the way you talk to people. That was still kind of there, yeah, when it first started.

Speaker 1: 24:16

So you get on there and you get within, like Onzanga, part of your communities and your groups that were meant for kids that would communicate with one another were just that nobody in there pretending to be something they're not.

Speaker 2: 24:31

Yeah, I know. For us as kids, that was what social media was. It was just another outlet to talk to my friends. I didn't have to call them on the phone. If I had a thought or something I wanted to say to them, I could just message them right away. If they respond, great. If they don't, they will later. You know that's what it was. It wasn't about trying to find friendship, like I already had friends.

Speaker 1: 24:57

I just wanted to talk to them more. And nowadays Facebook feels like you're screaming into an empty void. Yeah, zango, really wasn't that? People were actually still there, interested in to see what you had to say and communicate with you about what you were saying.

Speaker 2: 25:14

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 25:17

Facebook has become kind of a video platform. It's mostly videos, ads and every now and then somebody you know saying something.

Speaker 2: 25:25

If you're scrolling through it, the rest of it's just mindless scrolling I think that facebook has been trying really hard to push people towards the meta. They want people as far as social interaction goes. They want people to go to meta and the facebook thread they just fill with yeah, advertisements and reels.

Speaker 1: 25:46

That's where their money's at. Yeah, yeah, because that's usually. I'll go on to see what people have to say. Still today, yeah, nobody's ever really saying much, and I end up getting stuck on their reels just swiping through on their version of TikTok.

Speaker 2: 26:01

Yeah, and that's what social media is. That's what social networking has become. Now there's no more typing out your thoughts. You know it's all video form.

Speaker 1: 26:11

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:12

And so no one's going to listen to what you have to say, unless you make a video about it.

Speaker 1: 26:16

Right or a podcast.

Speaker 2: 26:17

Or a podcast. Apparently, people want to hear more about Mormonism. I heard yes, apparently, people want to hear more about Mormonism.

Speaker 1: 26:23

I heard, yes, the most views we've ever got in a short period of time on our episode 44.

Speaker 2: 26:31

Yeah, almost 100 views in like two days.

Speaker 1: 26:34

I know which for us is crazy, crazy. Yeah, we're just a little old podcast. I mean, this is fun to me.

Speaker 2: 26:42

I enjoy it. I enjoy it. I enjoy sitting here talking to you about Zynga.

Speaker 1: 26:45

Yeah, so speaking of Zynga, my number one. All right, no, I'm kidding. Do you have anything else to say about Zynga?

Speaker 2: 26:54

This is totally my hat. No, that was a big thing I wanted to bring up is that? You know, that was just the intro to communicating with others online. Mm-hmm, intro to communicating with others online. Uh, and, and that was my exposure to speaking to a stranger on the internet. Yeah, that was the very first time it happened. So, yeah, it was. It was pretty fun while it lasted and, to be honest, I think life would be a little bit better if we could go back to the simplicity of zanga yeah but that will never happen.

Speaker 2: 27:22

No, no, it won't. Do you want to tell the quick little story about the strangest friendship developed over the internet that we heard? Do you remember the wedding?

Speaker 1: 27:37

Oh yeah, Go ahead.

Speaker 2: 27:39

Okay, so I think the most interesting I don't want to say strange. I think we've talked about this on the podcast. We've talked about it before. We went to a friend's wedding the groom and the best man the way that they talked to you would have thought that they were childhood friends. It seemed really close. And then the best man gave his speech. There's no other groomsmen, it was just the best man. I think that was intentional. I think they just wanted it.

Speaker 1: 28:05

Minimal wedding. But come to find out, the best man had met the groomsman through a—. No, the best man met the groom, you said groomsman.

Speaker 2: 28:18

Oh sorry, the best man met the groom through World of Warcraft in a chat, and they built a friendship through World of Warcraft and they lived in separate states and they became real close and to the point where it's like, hey, we don't live in the same state, but I want you to come and be my best man at my wedding.

Speaker 1: 28:38

Which is crazy. I do wish that we did live in a society where that was more readily available to happen.

Speaker 2: 28:47

Yeah, that's. The positive side to the internet is that you can build relationships that are not bound by your immediate geographical location. So that is. I mean we like to poke at it a little bit and make fun a little bit, but the true essence of it is really awful.

Speaker 1: 29:07

Yeah, Like just because of it, not how it happened, but just the joke of it being World of Warcraft yeah, that's the only thing that's the only connecting thing.

Speaker 2: 29:16

It's just because it's World of Warcraft.

Speaker 1: 29:17

If it was anything else, any other video game, it wouldn't be as funny, or even, yeah, any social networking or any other video game.

Speaker 2: 29:27

so we're not making fun of their friendship, we're making fun of world of warcraft and why do you think people do that? Why do you think people dog world of warcraft so much?

Speaker 1: 29:34

I have an answer, but I want to hear what yours is. My personal answer is that it it is something that doesn't. It happens all the time in all games now, but at the time at least for me, is like you have to buy a game and then have a subscription to pay that play the game. For me it was like that was always the thing, making fun of it. It's like there's things that I do that are way nerdier in video game format than world of warcraft, but it was just like that stigma that was around, like it's a subscription as well, but we have so many other forms of quote-unquote subscription and stuff with microtransactions and dlc and yeah, all these other kind of things that it's just like it's probably the lesser of evils in entertainment now is world of warcraft yeah, I uh, I think it's leroy jenkins.

Speaker 2: 30:25

Oh yeah, I think that's why people dog it so much, even people that don't even really know anything about it, because they've seen the leroy jenkins clip all right, that's enough of this, yeah I, I think that's what it is. I think people, people are like oh, this is just funny, this is just silly. Yeah, you know so way to go, leroy Jenkins, you ruined World of Warcraft for all the non-World of Warcraft. Wow, people. Wow, all the non-wow people. Wow, all right, what's at the top of your list?

Speaker 1: 31:06

I wouldn't say it's top of my list, but we're just heading towards it. Numero no my, my first one, is neopets, neopets, you remember?

Speaker 2: 31:13

neopets my guy uh, I never did it, but I think my wife brought up that she did it oh yeah, yeah, it was just like.

Speaker 1: 31:22

I feel like at least for mine as well is that it's all flash, it's all game and community. Right, that's all it was. But you had the, you would get a pet.

Speaker 2: 31:38

Yes.

Speaker 1: 31:39

And it'd be just a pitcher that was your pet. It'd have a status like it was hungry or whatever, and you just took care of this creature. They were all random creatures and it was a massive craze. It looks like neopets is still.

Speaker 2: 31:52

Yeah, it is still around, but it does not look these are not pets.

Speaker 1: 31:56

No, no, not really it.

Speaker 1: 31:59

Uh, these are all like fairies and stuff yeah, I mean they had portions of it that like, okay, so you had your pets and you played like flash games and whatnot, to um earn money, because there were shops in it that you could buy stuff of food for your pet to feed it and costumes and all this stuff, okay, and you just explored the website. There was always little hidden, little things and it just was a. There was chat rooms and message boards and stuff, uh-huh, and everybody was there just taking care of their pet. You know, yeah, what's crazy is it got deep and there's actually like you can invest your coins into a fake stock market and earn money on their online stock market on neopets Dang. It was launched in 1999.

Speaker 2: 32:46

1999. The year that the earth was supposed to end. Yeah, that was year 2000.

Speaker 1: 32:53

The first of the 2000. Yes, sorry, it was marketed as a virtual pet site but was secretly a gamified intro to economics, coding and gambling, which there was. There was a lot of gambling involved and all this stuff. So it was just like this children's website that was kind of like this, almost kind of like posed as a way to teach kids things in an educational way. Yeah, but not really at the same time, but not really but not really. Yeah, but not really at the same time, but not really, but not really Really, but not really.

Speaker 1: 33:27

But you know it was all. Just it was a built-in website economy. Yeah, so it was a lot of fun to do that, like you could do the stuff where you could go in and code and customize your web page the same way that you could with zanga and myspace, where everything would be flashy and changing and customize every little aspect of it. And yeah, it's just really nostalgic for me because I was on there a lot having fun. Yeah, just on the chat boards, just talking about does anybody have this map piece that I can finish to get this paintbrush to change my, my neopet?

Speaker 2: 34:05

Oh man, that's funny.

Speaker 1: 34:06

There was like over 50 of them, though it was like so many different pets, yeah.

Speaker 2: 34:11

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 34:11

Like so many crazy my crazy, but like it was funny because I remember getting on. It's like your pet would be hungry, but I found out pretty early on that that didn't actually mean anything, cause your pet couldn't die. Yeah, so you just didn't waste your coins on this food for this pet so you, your pet, would be starving to death for decades what, uh, what was the keychain thing?

Speaker 2: 34:38

that your pet would die if you didn't feed it? That was a tamagotchi tam. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 34:42

Which was a physical little thing that you could have. Yeah, a physical little puck with 8-bit this is picture Tamagotchi. But a lot more you could do with it online. Yeah, yeah, so I had just a blast.

Speaker 2: 34:58

Just a real blast. Now do you want to go ahead and talk about your other one? Because I did play that one, my other one.

Speaker 1: 35:04

Yes, let us talk about Club.

Speaker 2: 35:08

Penguin, club Penguin.

Speaker 1: 35:11

Again, this one's a little bit different because it kind of has the Neopets vibe to some degree. Yeah, but it was just a single game, yes, single game. Yes, that had a huge like. It was just like. It was a free to play mmo game, yes, where you played as a penguin on an island and you play, and you just hung out with other penguin friends and played games and earned coins and decorated your house, which was an igloo yeah, yeah, it was customization.

Speaker 2: 35:43

It was almost like uh sims light yeah, you know, to some degree. Yeah, you could customize your house, you could get things for it. Uh, and I remember there being like a big like across the platform game, like they do themed things, like yeah, they would always have like parties and all this stuff.

Speaker 1: 36:03

So, like you would start out you're a penguin, but then it's like, as you progressed on the island, just going and doing stuff, eventually you could become like a secret agent and you'd have to hunt down like this, like rogue polar bear, yeah, and you know how they had like the sea, uh, pirate captain, that would come like there would be a telescope on the beach and you'd look out and you could see a ship coming in and this would be over a span of real world days. You'd see him getting closer and then all of a sudden his ship was there. You'd get a new costume piece and then they would actually have like a member of the Club Penguin staff controlling the actual pirate walking around the island. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, and it's just like I'd call you up and like captain neckbeard is here. Is that his actual name? No, it was captain something beard, I think, penguin beard or something let's, let's, look it up.

Speaker 2: 36:55

I gotta, I gotta know what it is but you know, it launched in 2005.

Speaker 1: 37:03

it ran for two years. Then Disney bought it Boo, and I say yes, I agree to that boo, because in 2017, disney shut it down, even though it was booming Captain.

Speaker 2: 37:16

Rockhopper. Rockhopper, that was the name of the pirate.

Speaker 1: 37:20

No, he's actually Captain Neckbeard. Now I can say that because it's shut down and no one plays it now. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2: 37:26

Yeah, you know they should have. I don't know why they shut it down. There should have been an actual reason for it.

Speaker 1: 37:37

I think that the last time I had played it, which was probably like 2010 or something like that, they were already updating and changing it the way that we used to play it, because they would always. It would dynamically change and the world would change, and I didn't like the visually how it was going. Anyways, I think, really, it's just the people who played it enjoyed it in 2007, 2005 to 2007. Yeah, fell off, and a new crowd got on, and it probably wasn't as big as the when we played it. So, over time, it just lost its fan base, and then it they had and they just shut it down. It was probably not worth hosting and keeping up and all that fun stuff, yeah.

Speaker 1: 38:16

What's funny, though, is is it going back to world of warcraft? On it? It had a subscription on it. Yeah, it you could pay to, because it was like the shops had clothes you could buy with your coins, but only if you had the premium subscription. Yes, and every now and then they would give you a free piece of clothing. Yeah, like a beanie or like, every now and then, a shirt. Yeah, so I actually. So there was a lighthouse in the game and so I had. My color scheme was red and white. I had a red, white striped shirt because the the lighthouse was like a candy cane striped yeah, lighthouse, and I always like my character. For the longest time I'd hang out around the lighthouse and I'd be like the spirit of the lighthouse or something like that the spirit of the lighthouse or something like that, the spirit of the lighthouse you know what I mean?

Speaker 1: 39:08

it's just, yeah, just being stupid. Yeah, uh, funny enough. There is still like an unofficial server that hosts the game where you can play it really yeah, I'm not going to play. I don't know. Would you do it for a live stream, like for one live stream?

Speaker 2: 39:22

play club penguin again yeah, I guess, so I guess I would play club penguin for a live stream. Play Club Penguin again? Yeah, I guess, so I guess I would play.

Speaker 1: 39:27

Club Penguin for a live stream. There you go. Look forward to that Club Penguin live stream for the Saints that Serve Nostalgic edition.

Speaker 2: 39:37

Nostalgia.

Speaker 1: 39:38

I feel like there's a lot of better nostalgic games we could play the problem with nostalgia is that it makes things seem better than they actually were.

Speaker 1: 39:52

Yeah, yeah uh, going into it real quick, because it was something I was looking at today. Uh, ozzy osbourne died, yes. So I was looking at an old game I played back when I was like still in high school, called Brutal Legend, okay, and it was like a heavy metal rock and roll game and it starred Jack Black and it had like Ozzy actually voicing a character that looked like him, that was like the head of a faction in this world. Okay, there's a bunch of other heavy metal singers also in it. I was like, oh, oh, I wonder if I could just kind of check out heavy, uh, brutal legend again. And I found I'm like, oh, this game looks gross. It is not the way I remember.

Speaker 1: 40:35

it was an xbox 360 game okay so it's not that old, but like what?

Speaker 2: 40:41

type of game was it.

Speaker 1: 40:42

It was like a mixture of like a hack and slash and RTS combined.

Speaker 2: 40:48

Okay, so it wasn't like a Guitar Hero game.

Speaker 1: 40:50

No, so like you like. Yeah, your character carried a guitar.

Speaker 2: 40:54

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 40:55

But you would hop in and control these troops and kind of tell them where to go and battle the other troops, but you could also hop in at the same time and be battling and fighting these groups of of minions. But it would be kind of like, you know, like halo wars, where you were opposing one faction, yeah, and it was troop, uh, troop management, but you were also in it fighting the troops, do you think this came out before or after the movie Role Models? Brutal Legend came out in 2009, I think.

Speaker 2: 41:29

Okay, so that was before, but I don't know why I thought of Role Models. I guess it's just because they do, because they LARP, they LARP and there's different factions, but they also incorporate Kiss into it.

Speaker 1: 41:42

Yeah, Not Kissing the band Kiss. Yeah, the band Kiss.

Speaker 2: 41:50

But anyways, yeah, club Penguin, dude into it. Yeah, not kissing the band kiss, yeah, the band kiss. But anyways, yeah, club penguin, dude, club penguin, are you?

Speaker 1: 41:54

ready to talk about mine? Yes, what is your number two?

Speaker 2: 41:55

it's the other. Okay, before I'm talking about miniclip games oh, that okay.

Speaker 1: 42:00

Yeah, so I know what you're about to talk about. So hosted. So there was a website called miniclips and they had several online games on this site, in the same way that new grounds we talked about at ebum's world hosted these games, and club penguin was like I used to. I'd go to miniclipscom, then find the link to club penguin, yep, and then learn fairly quickly that you could just go to clubpingwincom yeah, yeah, and go from there.

Speaker 2: 42:26

But it's the same way with your game yeah, so that you know, they hosted clubpingwin and runescape runescape, so I didn't play.

Speaker 1: 42:37

Oh, I played runescape, yeah, but I I feel like that is like our two different personalities there, yeah, where, like you, were playing the medieval kind of like night kind of type game.

Speaker 2: 42:49

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 42:49

And I was over there playing a penguin game. It's not that I love penguins or anything. I was like I was always playing the obscure game, yeah, like. And you were playing the one that always kind of fit into your niche and genre, of sorts Sure and RuneScape's fun. But I couldn't get past over. I couldn't look past. The graphics on it were kind of bad.

Speaker 2: 43:12

Yeah, because it was like boxy, but not like Minecraft boxy.

Speaker 1: 43:16

Yeah, it wasn't pixelated, it was like polygons.

Speaker 2: 43:20

Yeah, yeah, I liked it just because it's. I mean it was, it was a MMORPG.

Speaker 1: 43:29

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 43:30

You know those are always fun, but I think it was one of the first ones. I can't say that for sure.

Speaker 1: 43:36

I'm pretty sure there's others. But yeah, it was like the first major internet one. Like in the sense it was a free to play game.

Speaker 2: 43:43

And it was. Yeah, it came out in 2001. You could do free-to-play once again. I mean it also had a subscription. But yeah, I liked it because just the sheer variety of things you could do, like you could focus, you could level up your different skills. So it's like if you wanted to, you could focus on just baking and be a baker in the game and level up and then trade with the other players. You know your goods for their stuff.

Speaker 1: 44:12

Bread. I've got bread here.

Speaker 2: 44:14

Yeah, I'll trade you a bread for your iron sword yeah, exactly, so it was like it was things like that. It was like you could focus on being a smith or you could focus on being a hunter, you could focus on being a baker or a fisher, whatever. So, yeah, it was, it was pretty fun. But you know, it was one of those games where I played for a little while and then I'd set it down and I'd come back and play for a little while and then I'd set it down and now they rebooted it or revamped it and it's. You can play the nostalgic original graphics or, you know, the modern graphics for it. They did a remaster of it. Remaster of it and made it a mobile game, so you can play on your phone.

Speaker 1: 44:55

But is it the exact same world? Just they updated the graphics. Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2: 45:00

It plays the exact same way. It's just updated graphics.

Speaker 1: 45:03

So same story within the game, same, you know, characters so part of that live stream, what we'll do is we'll play club penguin and then we'll move over to runescape. See which one's better now, all right, but we have to play in crappy graphics. It's fine, original, yeah yeah, I like how you correct me, not crappy.

Speaker 2: 45:25

Original Original. Yeah, nostalgic, I think it's how they say it Nostalgic. I just did a quick Google search and this says that the first commercial multiplayer MMORPG was Neverwinter Nights, released in 1991 by Strategic Simulations Incorporated. I've heard of Neverwinter On AOL.

Speaker 1: 45:48

AOL I've heard of Neverwinter, but I'm not sure what it is.

Speaker 2: 45:56

Yeah, I don't know. I've never heard of this game before, but apparently it's the first MMORPG.

Speaker 1: 46:05

Mom leave me alone, I'm playing MMORPG. Mom leave me alone, I'm playing MMORPG.

Speaker 2: 46:08

Yeah, whatever that is yeah, yeah, just shouting that across the room Like what are you doing? What?

Speaker 1: 46:17

game. Are you playing MMORPG 2.

Speaker 2: 46:21

Yeah, oh man. But yeah, I liked RuneScape a good bit. It was quite enjoyable to play. But it was one of those things you also got the shock of like, if you don't have the subscription, you've got to grind really hard. Really it's To make it in the game.

Speaker 1: 46:41

They really do make it so that when you're playing this game, you really have to pay that subscription. They really bog you down in the game and it's like, yeah, you can be really diligent and just play the game for fun, yeah, but yeah, that is a tactic that they use in all mobile games now, where it's like, oh, yeah, you can play the game for free, but it's like once you play, like twice, you have to wait three days and then you can play another level. Yeah, exactly, or pay 16 bucks for three coins that get you to play another level yeah, yeah, it's uh, so it was frustrating in that sense.

Speaker 2: 47:23

I think that's why I would keep on stopping, because it was like so it was frustrating in that sense. I think that's why I would keep on stopping because it was like I've got to sit here for another four hours to be able to move up a level.

Speaker 1: 47:31

Yeah, it's like oh, you can't start this quest until you're level 20, but it takes a whole year to go up three levels.

Speaker 2: 47:38

Yeah, exactly. They just make it they bog you down so much that you can't progress. And there were some areas of the game that like you had to be. Yeah, you could not enter the map unless you were like a level 40 something or whatever you know. So it was like to get to level 40, it's either I've got to spend my entire life on the game or I get the subscription to level up faster, or choice three, don't play it or don't play it yeah, so there you go.

Speaker 2: 48:06

All right, you ready to get to our main one?

Speaker 1: 48:08

Yeah, let's get into it. This is just like my kind of comedy, my kind of humor.

Speaker 2: 48:16

Definitely an influence on our lives, big influence on our lives. So what is it? Homestarwonder.

Speaker 1: 48:25

HomestarWnernet. It's com.

Speaker 2: 48:30

The poopsmith's not a bad guy, he's just got a crappy job.

Speaker 1: 48:35

I'm going to break out my yellow shades.

Speaker 2: 48:40

Yeah, dude, homestar Runner is pretty funny.

Speaker 1: 48:43

So for those not in the know, team girl squad, team girl squad. What is homestar runnercom? Because that's what it's called. You know what I mean. Like they even reference it on the site.

Speaker 2: 48:56

It's homestar runner, but everybody references it as homestar runnercom like it was just a website, but it had a ton of videos and it had a mock vlog on it, and then it had some games, some games.

Speaker 1: 49:13

Some games, if you want to really call them games, except for one of them was an actual, real game. Yeah, so homestarunnercom is again a flash animation site. Yeah, and it was just the stories of these wonky, wacky characters. Yes, and it's just like they had all the dumbest names. It's like his name, the main character, was Homestar Runner.

Speaker 2: 49:38

Yeah, do you remember his girlfriend's name, marzipan? Do you remember the coach's name, coach Z? Do you remember the?

Speaker 1: 49:49

villain in air quotes. I mean is that, are you talking about strong, bad? Yeah, okay, just make sure I never saw him as a villain, even though he was the villain. He's technically the villain, but yeah, he's not the villain. What's the name of his?

Speaker 2: 49:59

uh, two brothers strong mad and strong sad and their-hmm and their pet.

Speaker 1: 50:06

The cheat, the cheat, yeah, the cheat is not dead.

Speaker 2: 50:09

Yeah, I actually. I met a customer that he had custom made a guitar and the body of the guitar was the cheat.

Speaker 1: 50:15

All right, where's this man's house and how can we break in?

Speaker 2: 50:19

But yeah, dude, hold on, I'm trying to think what was.

Speaker 1: 50:21

I Hold on, I'm trying to think what was? I'm trying to think there's like one more character.

Speaker 2: 50:29

What was the name of the king of the town? It was King. I can't think. I can't think of his name.

Speaker 1: 50:34

You're going to be really mad. What was it? King of the town, king of the town.

Speaker 2: 50:39

And then there was the poop smith.

Speaker 1: 50:46

The poop smith, who was always shoveling the poop for the King of Town, yeah, and then are we missing somebody. I really feel like there's one more character there is, and I can't remember who it is. If you show me a picture of all the characters, I would be able to name them all, but there's one more. There's always like the little, weird, small side characters that they would mention one time in an animation.

Speaker 2: 51:05

Like Little Brother. Here comes Little Brother, weird small side characters that they would mention one time in an animation. Like a little brother.

Speaker 1: 51:06

Like here comes little brother, he's got one leg up on the line Just one.

Speaker 2: 51:15

All right, I'm going to the Wicca Homestar.

Speaker 1: 51:19

Homestar, which was like the alternate universe version of Homestar. Yeah, it was just like he was version of Homestar. Yeah, it was just like he was kind of like oh Pom.

Speaker 2: 51:31

Pom, pom, pom, pom, pom Jeez.

Speaker 1: 51:34

That's it. It was Homestar Runner's best friend, yeah.

Speaker 2: 51:38

Man can't believe we messed that one up.

Speaker 1: 51:42

It's okay, we'll be all right, but it was a Flash site, cartoons on it right and and games. Yes, we're gonna get to the game in a second, because we all know what it is sorry, I just got distracted.

Speaker 2: 51:57

I was trying to pull up characters and it pulled up an actual homestar like website thing. What do you mean? It pulled up like a video from Homestar. Oh gotcha.

Speaker 1: 52:08

But so there was two things on HomestarRunnercom that was great, yeah, and one of them stemmed from the other. So do you want to talk about Strong Bad Emails, because that's why everybody really went to the site? Yeah, bad emails, because that's why everybody really went to the site. Yeah, yeah, so strong bad emails was animations, where it was like the villain character strong bad, yes, who he wore boxing gloves and wore a luchador mask the luchador, luchador mask. But he was strong, bad, but he, uh, he would just sit at his computer and answer email questions people could actually send into the website and they would ask some kind of question and then kind of turn it into a silly cartoon. Yeah, so it'd be like the one that was major was can you show me how to draw the dragon? Yes, and so it's like sure. So then it kind of cuts over and him shy, doing you know a tutorial on how to draw a dragon, and he'd be like all right, so we start with a, a letter s, and do another letter s.

Speaker 2: 53:14

We're gonna draw on us and then and then another one go ahead and put one of them beefy arms in there and then put a little beefy arm on it and then, just like, for some reason, the dragon now has a big old muscular arm popping out of it, the back Of his back.

Speaker 1: 53:29

Yeah, it's coming out, and now let's check on how everybody else is doing. And he'd go over and he's like all the other characters trying to draw a dragon. He's like no, I said consonant V's.

Speaker 2: 53:41

Consonant V's. I said consonant V's, so what was the name of the dragon? Trogdor, trogdor.

Speaker 1: 54:00

So Trogdor got its own kind of line of spinoff type stuff. Right, yeah.

Speaker 2: 54:09

And got so big it got so big, made it into Guitar Hero.

Speaker 1: 54:11

There is a secret song you can unlock in Guitar Hero 2 and it's the Strong Bad theme, I'm sorry, the Trogdor theme song, which is crazy. It is, it's massive. It's just like they have a game which is based off. There is an old school style of game called Point and Click Adventure. Yeah, where you would go around on a map, you would click up to something and then you would type what you want to do. It was very freeform type game. They made a parody game with that kind of style with Trogdor, where you it was called Peasant's Quest, where you were a peasant trying to survive the attack of Trogdor.

Speaker 2: 54:46

No, Trying to defeat Trogdor.

Speaker 1: 54:51

But why? Because he attacked your village.

Speaker 2: 54:53

Yeah, the intro is he's already attacked the village and so now you're trying to-.

Speaker 1: 54:57

To go and defeat Trogdor because he burninated and that was the phrase they used was he would burninate.

Speaker 2: 55:03

Yeah, all right, pom Pom and.

Speaker 1: 55:07

Bubs were the two that were. Bubs was the other one. Yeah, bubs was the salesperson. Like you would go to Bubs store.

Speaker 2: 55:14

Yeah, so we got the main characters Homestar, runner Strong Bad, the Cheat, strong Mad, strong Sad, pom Pom, marzipan, coach Z Bubs, the King of the Town, the Poopsmith and Homestar.

Speaker 1: 55:32

And Homestar would kind of show up in just random moments, so he wasn't there all the time but he would and then through Strong Bad Emails you know what else spun off what Was like a fake band, that kind of actually put out an album and performed live, which was Limousine.

Speaker 2: 55:53

Yeah, I forgot about that.

Speaker 1: 55:54

Yeah, all of this was.

Speaker 2: 55:56

It was because the video was him coming up with band names. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1: 56:01

And then just over time, you know, they kind of formed a fake real world band that actually went and did one show. And they did. You know where they did it? Where Atlanta.

Speaker 2: 56:11

Oh really.

Speaker 1: 56:12

Yeah, I kind of got mad Like I would love to have been there, it was like just at a local kind of small club type thing, because they were, they're in Atlanta, they are local, like to Georgia.

Speaker 2: 56:28

So do they have the rights to the burninator song? Trying to go to burninator? Probably that's funny.

Speaker 1: 56:34

Yeah, I had no idea about that I mean the, the members of limousine are the creators of homestar runner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they were just up there just doing things, but they put out an album. It was a Strong, bad Sings album.

Speaker 2: 56:49

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 56:49

So it was just a bunch of parody songs and there's a few limousine songs on that album. That's funny. So they actually have real songs.

Speaker 2: 57:06

Yeah, because didn't.

Speaker 1: 57:07

Strong Bad sing a Christmas song, or did a couple of Christmas songs and put out a mock, a mock christmas album or something, yeah, something like that, I think so, yeah, and then they put out to the company that made their like point and click adventures, a legitimate game company called telltale. Yeah, they made the walking dead series of games. They did some for game of Thrones, back to the Future, jurassic Park, but they're all like you would kind of do a point and click adventure games. Yeah, they made one for Strong Baddest. There was a series of five episodes in one game and it was a legitimate Homestar Runner point and click adventure game where you were going around the I think it's like town Freetown, usa is the name of their little city town and so you would go around and you would just be solving puzzles Interesting, it's a real video game. Yeah, yeah, and you're Strong Bad. Okay, because even though Homestar Runner was the main character, strong Bad over time kind of became the main face and character of Homestar Runner.

Speaker 2: 58:04

Yeah, because everybody liked him instead. I think outside of the actual website, strong bad was the main character, but when you go to the website home, star runners is the main character. But yeah, strong bad's the most well-known. I agree with that.

Speaker 1: 58:22

Yeah yeah, and I would love to look up and see how many times he's referenced in pop culture outside of Homestar Runner. Yeah, like, do research into seeing how often people reference him.

Speaker 2: 58:38

Yeah, because you can still find Homestar Runner videos on. Youtube and stuff.

Speaker 1: 58:42

Well, the website still exists too. The website's still up. So what's cool, too, is like you would watch their flash videos, yeah, and just like you, after it's over, you kind of hover around on the on the page and you could find secret little endings and stuff on the on the videos. Yeah, yeah, you would find a little secret place and you click on it and it'd just be a easter egg. Yeah, that would be in all the videos, all the email, like they call them. Uh, strong, bad email videos and, yeah, all their regular cartoons. They'd be everywhere, and but when they did it on youtube, they just kind of uploaded that if you just wait a minute, it'll play automatically play the secret video, and it's like it kind of takes away something from the site when you do stuff like that yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 59:24

Didn't they get contracted with, like with disney, to do something for a little while?

Speaker 1: 59:28

they got contracted to do something with somebody and that's why we stopped getting strong. Uh, homestar runner videos, yeah, but they still do make them at least once a year, because they were real big about having a halloween episode coming out every year. Oh really, yeah. So they still make cartoons every now and then It'll just be an out-of-the-blue random release. Yeah, yeah, that's cool, though. I mean, if you go to their website and you go look, it'll tell you the last time it was updated on the top of it. So let's see Hold on Homestar. Ripping it up HomestarRunnercom. And what was their big song? Open it up, homestarunnercom. And what was their big song? Everybody, everybody. I forgot about that song. It says they're celebrating 25 years. The system is down. The system is down, the system is down.

Speaker 2: 1:00:23

The chain is not there. Celebrating25.com.

Speaker 1: 1:00:31

That's pretty neat. They have removed how often they update on the front page, so it's not there anymore. Well, dang, well, gosh darn it. And I'll be honest, I feel like homestar runner is something that you could let anybody can watch it. Yeah, it's not like it's not particularly. Oh, my, sorry, that was loud. Yeah, yeah, if you hovered on stuff it'd make noises on the front page and stuff. Yeah, uh, click on one that, like will actually have homestar say things. Like. At the bottom, bottom left there's like a little directory numbers.

Speaker 2: 1:01:09

There it is Nodes, characters, characters.

Speaker 1: 1:01:21

So the front page is just Homestar Runner and anytime you hover over a different thing you want to go to, like games, tunes store, he would just shout it out yeah, oh, man, man, I miss it. You know what I'm doing. You know what I'm doing, I'm going home.

Speaker 2: 1:01:36

You're going to go get on Homestar Runner. Homestarrunnercom.

Speaker 1: 1:01:39

Before the store shut down for a long time, because there was a time frame where they just weren't selling anything anymore. Yeah, they might be now. I bought all of the dvds for the cartoons really. Yeah, so I have all the home star runner because they had the strong bad email dvds and then they had so it's strong bad emails and then everything else. Yeah, it was. The cartoon dvds were called everything else. Yeah, so I owned at one point. I don't, they might have another volume, but I have all the Everything Else DVDs.

Speaker 2: 1:02:13

Interesting, I did not know that, that they had DVDs.

Speaker 1: 1:02:16

Mm-hmm Crazy, they also have a board game, the Trogdor board game. Oh really yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:02:23

That's something that Munchkin should do. They should do a homestar runner themed uh expansion, expansion yeah, that would be funny I would 100 buy it.

Speaker 1: 1:02:31

I want a full homestar runner themed game, though yeah, not just an expansion yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be good, all right. Well, that's all I've got for the main topic I mean, yeah, it's just just it's fun, like old internet's fun, and I'm. It's one of those things where you kind of almost kind of chase that high where it's like it's not going to ever be the same like it was for us as kids yeah, the it's, it's nostalgia.

Speaker 2: 1:02:59

But when you go back to look at all that stuff you're just like, uh, this is not as cool as I remember it.

Speaker 1: 1:03:05

Personally, I wonder what today's version of Homestar Runner is for kids. What are they watching that in 20 years they're going to say, oh, I missed that so much. Bluey Bluey. No, I don't know, but you know what I mean. Skippity Ohio Riz. Skippity Ohio Riz. Skippitytoiletcom. Skippitytoio riz. Skippity ohio riz is skippity toiletcom.

Speaker 2: 1:03:27

Skippity toiletcom. Don't. Don't look that up, if you are.

Speaker 1: 1:03:31

I mean, skippity toilet itself is not actually bad like the first couple ones, but have you been to skippity toiletcom no okay, don't, don't go to skippity toiletcom.

Speaker 1: 1:03:40

I'm talking about the youtube video. Skippity, it's just a guy's head in a toilet going. Skippy Toilet, skippy Toilet, like it's stupid. It's stupid, oh my gosh. So, before we close out this episode, you said that you want to play a quick little Marketplace Madness. Is it Marketplace Madness? Yep, I've got two. Okay, I thought you said you sent me a picture to look at. Yeah, yeah, that's one of them. That's one of the. Okay, cool, so we're playing marketplace madness. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2: 1:04:08

So open up. I sent you the picture. This is the cover picture for what is being sold.

Speaker 1: 1:04:15

Okay, what All?

Speaker 2: 1:04:18

right. So from the picture, what do you think is being listed on Facebook marketplace?

Speaker 1: 1:04:25

Well, real quick. Before I do that, let me describe this photograph. Yes, it is a young woman, Correct Standing in a field, correct Wearing a white dress and cowboy boots.

Speaker 2: 1:04:38

And cowboy boots, and I think that's correct. I think that yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:04:44

So do I have to guess what it is, then guess the price, or just guess what it is in this particular case, just guess what it is, because you won't really know how to price it unless you know what it is. Gotcha. Is she selling the field? No, hold on, give me two more guesses here. Okay, is it? She's wearing a wig and she's selling the wig no a wig and she's selling the wig no, okay, is it a tractor not pictured? It's not a tractor not pictured.

Speaker 2: 1:05:11

No, is the tractor pictured, and it's a no, there's no tractor, there's no tractor okay what is it? She's advertising for a roommate. She's she's renting a room, what. She put a picture of herself and she's like hey, I've got a room, I want a female roommate and this is how much it is a month. These are the requirements. What? Yeah?

Speaker 1: 1:05:36

what is? This is me. I'm your roommate. You're getting me. What room am I staying in, doesn't?

Speaker 2: 1:05:42

matter, you get me. I was scrolling through and I saw the. I saw the wording first like whatever, something, a month, whatever. And then I saw the picture. I was like wait a minute, what is going on here?

Speaker 1: 1:05:57

and and legit it was, she was renting a room out like she don't even like she looks like she's maybe 15 in this picture, by the way.

Speaker 2: 1:06:05

Yeah, she yeah, like, don't advertise that on Facebook. Like, try and find somebody else. Yeah, okay, all right, I got one more. Are you ready? Yes, okay, the title is Mid-Century Porcelain Cabinet Door Pulls from Japan.

Speaker 1: 1:06:23

So they are the handles? Yes, and they're made of porcelain on a cabinet. Is the cabinet from Japan or just the handles? It's?

Speaker 2: 1:06:32

just the handles there are. It looks like 19 of them. They're orange and really shiny.

Speaker 1: 1:06:39

Orange and really is that in the description or are you just describing them? They said it's orange and really shiny Orange and really shiny 18 of them. I'm going to price that at $662. Wow, that was really close.

Speaker 2: 1:06:55

Yeah, how much you were off by $104.

Speaker 1: 1:06:59

You were off by $600?

Speaker 2: 1:07:01

It's $808 for all of them. 808? Put it 808. That all of them? That's 808. Put it 808. That's so stupid.

Speaker 1: 1:07:09

yeah, so there you go let me give you my quick little marketplace madness. Okay, so when the switch two came out, yes, gamestop got in trouble. One, one particular gamestop got in trouble. One particular GameStop got in trouble because they were stapling their receipts to the box, like, first off, why would you do that in the first place? But what they were doing is they were stapling the receipts to the game console box, like here's yours, boom, and slam it down, yeah, and it was putting the staple through the screen of the Switch. Oh, slam it down, yeah, and it was putting the staple through the screen of the Switch.

Speaker 1: 1:07:47

Oh, so, like it became a huge meme, yeah, and so, after like the meme was over, they replaced the Switch to took it back. You know, everything was settled. It's just like it was one employee who was doing something stupid, yeah, and GameStop made it right. But it was just, you know, a huge ordeal online, yeah, yeah. So, to make it right, gamestop has now listed GameStop's Staplegate charity auction. What you get in this auction, you get the Nintendo Switch 2 that was stapled.

Speaker 2: 1:08:27

Okay.

Speaker 1: 1:08:28

And the stapler that did it, and it's encased in a plastic box. So this is for charity. I took this screenshot July 11th. Okay, how much do you think at that time the bidding was? And then we can go look and see how much it sold for.

Speaker 2: 1:08:50

I'm going to say the bidding was probably at like 800 bucks.

Speaker 1: 1:08:55

At the time of this picture screenshot, it was 307 bids. It ends in five days. Okay, $218,401. Is what it sold for? Is what it currently that bid was of this screenshot? Jeez.

Speaker 2: 1:09:17

What did they? Get listed at.

Speaker 1: 1:09:19

Probably starting bid, probably like a thousand or something like that. Oh my God. So, it was for charity. Yeah, I'm looking up right now the sold price, so bear with me.

Speaker 2: 1:09:32

All right, I've got one more for you.

Speaker 1: 1:09:36

It ended up selling for the max amount that was set for the bids, which was $250,000. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2: 1:09:48

Why would someone do that? Why would someone spend that kind of money on that? They did it for the meme and charity. What's the charity? What is the charity? Is it the Clinton Foundation? No, it's fun.

Speaker 1: 1:10:02

Yeah Fun.

Speaker 2: 1:10:04

All right, are you ready for this last one?

Speaker 1: 1:10:06

yes it.

Speaker 2: 1:10:07

It's labeled as a benson gyrocopter what is a benson? Gyrocopter. It is a one-man helicopter oh, it's a natural no cockpit. Okay, I can picture that like it's a totally open, like there's a seat, there's a steer thing, and then the propellers above you, the motors are behind you. Fifteen thousand dollars, fifteen thousand dollars, yes, sir, is what you're locked in at locking in fifteen thousand dollars two thousand dollars you're gonna go get us a helicopter tonight? Yeah, I don't want to drive that. I don't know something's telling, telling me maybe don't do that.

Speaker 1: 1:10:47

You just like you get really excited. I saw a bird and you're just gone, and then you're done. Yeah, all right. Well, thank you for joining us on this segment of Facebook. Marketplace Madness oh sorry, just Marketplace Madness. Fum, fum or fum Depending on Fum. Fum or fum, depending on Fum.

Speaker 2: 1:11:07

Fum.

Speaker 1: 1:11:07

Fum, and thank you for joining us on this episode of the Saints that Serve podcast, episode 45. Thanks for hanging out with you guys Episode 45.

Speaker 2: 1:11:17

Thanks for being a part of what we're doing.

Speaker 1: 1:11:19

Mm-hmm, and in the comments section, let us know what your nostalgic website is. Yeah, what was your go-to as a child and why was it homestarrunnercom?

Speaker 2: 1:11:29

wow yeah, yeah, let us know what was your entertainment on the internet in the early 2000s from 2000 to 2005.

Speaker 1: 1:11:40

Yeah, that would have been our before youtube times. Yeah, yeah. And then YouTube ruined it.

Speaker 2: 1:11:47

Yeah, YouTube got really cool and really big and then it got too big and then it got lame. Yeah, and we still use it.

Speaker 1: 1:11:56

We're now going to get a strike for that, for talking bad about it on the platform that we're hosting this podcast. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:12:04

All right, well, that's all I've got. That's all I've got.

Speaker 1: 1:12:06

That's all I've got.

Speaker 2: 1:12:07

So I guess the only thing left to say is Christ is Lord.

Speaker 1: 1:12:10

And the kingdom is now. We are the saints that serve. We are the saints that serve Everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody. That is not how that song goes. No, definitely not.