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Episode 43 - Board Game Bonanza
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🎲 Board Games, Betrayal & Mountain Dew: A Tabletop Nostalgia Trip
Board games are more than just a way to pass the time - they reveal who we are, how we compete, and how we connect. In this episode, Jonny and Jarus take a trip down memory lane, sharing their favorite board games from childhood to adulthood, and the unexpected life lessons learned around the table.
From the strategy and negotiation of Catan to the chaotic, backstabbing fun of Munchkin, the hosts reflect on how different games bring out different sides of people. Whether it's playful sabotage, deep strategy, or laugh-out-loud moments, board games have a special way of strengthening relationships - even when they lead to friendly feuds.
They also dive into the legendary Munchkin game nights that sometimes got heated but always ended in laughter (and maybe a little revenge next round).
And for a wild twist, the episode wraps up with the “Mountain Dew Conspiracy” - a hilarious theory connecting new soda flavors to disasters. You’ve been warned.
Whether you're a lifelong tabletop fan or just enjoy a good story, this episode will remind you that the best part of any game night isn’t winning - it’s the people you're playing with.
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Episode Introduction
Speaker 2Welcome to the Saints that Serve , podcast where , each week , your hosts dive into the crossroads of faith , culture and the unknown .
Speaker 1Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now . We are the Saints that Serve . Hey everybody , welcome to the Saints that Serve . Podcast .
Speaker 2Hey , welcome to Saints that Serve podcast .
Speaker 1Wow , way to bring down the energy there that I brought up . Oh yeah , sorry , sorry , hoop , my name's Johnny , I'm Jairus and this is episode 43 . 43 . 43? , 43? , 43? .
Speaker 2It's 43 .
Speaker 1Yeah , hold on , let 43 . It's 43 .
Speaker 2Yeah , hold on , let me check , let's just pull it up 43 of the Saints to Serve podcast . We are kind of thrown for a loop , since we skipped a week .
Speaker 1Yeah , Sorry about that guys .
Speaker 2Yeah , no biggie . You know it happens to the best of us , yeah .
Speaker 1But , we're here now in episode 43 . That's right .
Speaker 2I guarantee you that what's his name is not doing it every single week .
Speaker 1Joe Rogan .
Speaker 2Yeah , I know .
Speaker 1We're going to have to talk about that at some point . I love those videos . Yeah , yeah , we're going to have to talk about that at some point . I love those videos . Yeah , we went . That's a good streak 42 weeks without missing a week .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , as far as posting yeah , yeah , yeah , we're going to be doing that all night .
Speaker 1The whole episode , no one's going gonna have context for what that is if you want to know what we're talking about , go look up jay renshaw on youtube . No , he plays a . Yeah , he plays a character named chit , and I just showed it to johnny for the first time and we have not stopped going . Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , uh-huh , yeah . Oh , my God , are you bluffing ?
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1You're not bluffing , are you ? Yeah , yeah , I'm all in .
Speaker 2Oh my gosh .
Speaker 1It's for a good cause . No , stop what cause ? Fun , fun . Anyways , do you have any announcements ?
Speaker 2Yes , sir , we are not going to be doing a live stream worship night this month . That is the month of July , yep , so August , august , we will start it back up again . So first Friday of August , just tune in on a Friday night .
Speaker 1Hold on , I'll tell you exactly what night that is what the date is .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Friday night . Yeah , hold on .
Speaker 2Yeah , you're right , the date that is August 1st August , 1st Tune in around 630 Eastern Standard Time , est or Eastern Mountain Time , whichever you prefer , because we're pretty much the same thing . Why don't ?
Speaker 1you pull up our current , all of our countries and just convert that time for each country . If you live in China , it is no American .
Speaker 2For those of you who don't have the internet you're still listening to this podcast .
Speaker 1Why don't you pause this episode , go to your internet browser on your phone and just type in my time zone , converted to Eastern Standard Time or EST 6.30 . 6.30 .
Speaker 2Yeah . So yeah , that's it . I mean , we're praying for you every Friday thing . Just reach out to us , either through the messaging link at the bottom of the show description , or you can email us at saintsthatserveatgmailcom . Saintsthatserveatgmailcom . Yeah , and we will pray for you , yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2That's all .
Speaker 1I've got for announcements Nice , so that means that we can , right this very second , get into our main topic , the first half of our main topic , the main topic .
Speaker 2Wait , the first , yes , the first half .
Speaker 1Because we are breaking this up into two different portions .
Speaker 2Correct the plan that we made when we planned this episode , the thing that we discussed earlier , before we did .
Speaker 1Yeah , you remember when I sat down I said , I said okay , what's the game plan for the episode ? Yeah , and then we both agreed to it . Yeah , that got it there is .
Speaker 2I have a note . I can't remember now . I can't remember what it was , but I feel like I needed to clarify something from last episode . But now I can't think of what it was , so I'll just preemptively say I'm sorry .
Speaker 1Just make it up right now .
Speaker 2A quick little . Let me apologize . I'm sorry that when we were talking about Mountain Dew , that people felt marginalized and belittled by my preferences to certain Mountain Dew flavors .
Speaker 1That sounds like something you would do , mountain Dew .
Speaker 2Yeah , also . Okay , this is what I do remember In that game that we played . All right , do the do or don't ? Yeah , ethan definitely says Baja Blast and a couple of guests guesses later . Baja Blast is a flavor that is put up and he's like I don't know , I know , I know . I was like I was listening back to it . I was like wait a minute , you did know , yeah , because he said fake right ? Yeah , he said it was fake and I was like don't do that .
Speaker 1Well , no , it's I really hope he was playing into the bit because you said because you turned over to like the nfl theme , you're like listen here , brother , I can tell you right now that's the realest of the real I I don't know .
Speaker 2It threw me for a loop when I was listening to it , because he he says it and then we get to that point . I'm like wait a minute . Earlier he said that that was a flavor that he knew . Uh , anyways board games board games . That's our main topic
Favorite Board Games Discussion
Speaker 2tonight board game .
Speaker 1So , tyler , this is your transition into the main topic .
Speaker 2We're talking about board games I've got , I've got a little okay . So I was looking at I know we're talking about like our favorites and then we're getting into our main one but I was looking at like top sellers , oh yeah , and according to this website , it's got to be Monopoly right ? According to this website , Bitewing the top board games for 2024 are games that we no one has ever . Oh , I've seen that .
Speaker 1I've seen that when I was doing my research . Yeah , so I guess .
Speaker 2Number five is Agent Avenue . Number four is Ian Fats Genial 3D that sounds like a username , yeah , I know . Number three is Wilmot's Warehouse , number two is Marabunta and number one is Arx . So I don't know where they're getting their info , but if you go to Amazon , you can look at bestsellers . Number one is Candyland , which it always is , yeah . Number two yeah , number two is Trouble . Number three is Sorry . Number four is Monopoly and number five is Connect .
Speaker 1Go back in order again , starting with Candyland . Candyland Number two is Trouble , so they ate candy .
Speaker 2They got in trouble they apologized , they monopolized the candy and they connected the first four pieces of candy .
Speaker 1Nice .
Speaker 2Yep , so yeah , that was sorry , that was . Yeah , I was just like what . Here are two different websites , One is an opinion piece and one is just the data , and there's just no connection whatsoever , there's nothing .
Speaker 1It must be top five or whatever the top was of new board games in 2024 .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't know what the—let me go back to the top of the article , because it's like a top 20 deal and it just says top 20 games of 2024 .
Speaker 1So yeah , It—I don't know . We should do a segment where we buy the number one game and play it on stream at some point . That would be fun .
Speaker 2Yeah , I would love to play Candy point .
Speaker 1That would be fun . Yeah , I would love to play Candyland . No of the new games , but Candyland sure , sure .
Speaker 2So let's just segue that into our favorite games Candyland . No , I'll just shoot mine out real quick . I'm a Catan guy , I love Catan .
Speaker 1It is a lot of fun , fun .
Speaker 2monopoly is always an enjoyable one hold on back up onto katan .
Speaker 1I enjoy playing katan , yes , but I feel like it's not a game that I can play back to back like , oh , we played around a katan , let's play it again , kind of thing like some other board games , like if you're playing cards or something like that you couldn't play katan like in a uh competition .
Speaker 2You couldn't play competitively . Is there competitive katan ? Yeah , okay , they have regional tournaments and stuff .
Speaker 1We're going to regionals , yeah , exactly but yeah , it's just when I enjoy it . But I usually do poorly , so I don't feel the drive to play again .
Speaker 2Yeah , but that's because Catan falls into the realm of strategy game and you don't like strategy games . You don't , don't Just embrace it , it's okay . It depends on the game . No , I play so many different games from you , from board games to card games to video games .
Speaker 1There's always a strategy .
Speaker 2when you're playing games , there's always a strategy , but strategy games tend to not be your favorite . Okay , all right , I'll go with that . All right , and then I , like , I'm looking at the board games , all your owned games .
Speaker 1All the games I have that I can see I do like that one , the one I bought you .
Speaker 2uh , yeah , iron gate , escape from iron gate . That's fun . That is fun . That is a fun game . I like uh , I'm looking right there , shadows over camelot .
Speaker 1That's a fun game that's another one that I enjoy playing once .
Speaker 2You can only yeah . You can't play it more than once . Like what ? The game takes a solid hour , if not longer . Yeah , and uh , yeah , when you're done , it's like okay , I need to take a , I need to take a break that's one of those where you play it and you're like I think I'm gonna go home yeah , but it is a collector now because they they stopped making it .
Speaker 2Yeah , so you cannot buy a new copy of shadows over camelot . If you own a copy , just hold on to it and try and keep it in good shape , and they just don't open it . And yeah then never play it , never have any fun , never enjoy it . Uh , let's see . Uh , what's the charity ? Yeah , and then I'll do number my , I like poker weer is any kind of card game is replayable .
Speaker 1Yeah , because they're always really short rounds . Correct , yes , so , and it's always a little bit different , I think , cards . I don't know if you can really fully say that it's a board game , no , but it is , you know what I mean .
Speaker 2Yeah , I would throw a card . I would , because I mean , yeah , I would say cards is I would throw into the genre of tabletop game . Yeah , because it is a tabletop game . And I like the reason I said poker specifically because , even if it's like you know , you do a $1 buy-in or a $2 buy-in or whatever , like you're putting some skin in the game when you play poker and there's enough no gain or loss aspect to it , it's not , it's boring , because people are like , oh , I'm gonna put in 70 chips on this one hand .
Speaker 1You're just like , yeah , so yeah , I enjoy that I will say the one game that you get out and I'll play it . I enjoy it , but probably out of all the games that you pull out for us to play , I really don't fully enjoy it and don't use this as an excuse to never play it again . Okay , it's Puerto Rico , Puerto .
Speaker 2Rico , yeah , dude .
Speaker 1It's fun and I'll get to kind of the point of this . Uh well , not this , but a point later on . Yeah , but it's like it really depends . The game is fun depending on who you play it with . Yeah , it all comes down to the crowd . Yeah , because you could be playing the dumbest , most unfun game . But if everybody around you is playing it the right way , then it becomes enjoyable . Like Apples to Apples , for example . You could play Apples to Apples with one group of people and if none of them are clever , it's not funny and fun . You know what I mean ? I agree . I think Puerto Rico is definitely one of those games where it's like it's not funny and fun .
Speaker 2You know what I mean . I agree , yeah . So I think Puerto Rico is definitely one of those games where it's like it's not a casual play , so it's really only fun when the people you're playing with are like they're in it . They're really in it , they're like , yeah , I'm going to . I don't care if I upset you because I buy the thing that you were trying to get or whatever . You know what I mean . Some people they get weird about cutting people off or swiping something from somebody , which is huge for what we're going to talk about in a minute .
Speaker 1Yeah , but you have to play games with people , at least in , because I like , let me get to my list , okay , and so as and I say that because I like playing games that are trickery , manipulative and just backstabbing type games , don't read into that too much people in the sense of , like you know , it's part of the strategy that you can betray somebody or you mess with somebody .
Speaker 1Sleight of hand , sleight of hand , deception , yeah , deception , those are fun to me . Yeah , but it's really hard to get the right crowd of people who can separate game and From reality . From reality . It's like I'm not like this in person all the time . I'm not a manipulative jerk , but I do tend to embrace that persona when playing a game that is encouraged to do so .
Speaker 2Embody the trickster , yeah it's fun because I yeah , dude . I'm sitting here and I'm realizing every how many times I say yeah while we're doing the podcast . Why do I keep ?
Speaker 1doing this . Whenever you see a character doing it in a funny YouTube video , you become more self-aware of how much you do it .
Speaker 2Correct . See , I was going to try and say it there several times , but I was like stop , stop .
Speaker 1So my first game I'm going to put out here Uno .
Speaker 2Uno , I enjoy it . I enjoy Uno .
Speaker 1Uno's fun . It's replayable . So much , so much replayability .
Speaker 2Especially when we do the specialty house rule . Yeah , I think that adds so much to the game . The way we play is if whoever wins a round of Uno , they get to incorporate a rule into the game and that rule plays moving forward for the rest of the night .
Speaker 1And it could be something like anytime a one is placed on the table , you have to like jump up and down real quick , or that's actually a good one ?
Speaker 2Yeah , that would be a good one . A common one that people like to do is whenever the color is green , everyone has to speak in an Irish accent .
Speaker 1Or you can't say the color blue , and if you do , you have to draw one card , and so whoever wins that round comes up with a rule , and the rules just stack until everybody gets tired of the game and leaves .
Speaker 2Yeah , it is fun , but it is a lot of fun .
Speaker 1My next one , and this is where I'm going to start getting off the wall . A bit-ish Off the wall , bit-ish Not yet , but we're getting there . Clue , clue . I love me some Clue . We watched that movie . That movie is so good .
Speaker 2I'm going to go home and kiss my wife , kiss my wife . That's not yeah , I didn't , I totally forgot but that one where he reveals that he is an actual federal agent . He's not flamboyant , everyone's guilty . Yeah , I totally forgot that aspect of it is that everyone murdered someone that night , except Mr Green .
Speaker 1Yeah , spoilers to a movie that came out in the 1970s I think Was 70s , 70s or 80s or 80s . But it's just like . It's so funny because it's just like when that movie came out there was , depending on where the movie was released , the ending to clue was different . Yeah , there was a different ending for every person oh , I didn't realize .
Speaker 2I did it that way yeah .
Speaker 1So , like yo , this person did it in every single ending , and so that's why on the home release they kind of just did like an example oh , it could have ended like this . Well , that was one one ending . Oh , it could end like this , but it really ended like this and it was like the true ending , sure , which I think was just really mr green's ending , and it just the most likable ending to the movie .
Speaker 2Sure 1985 is when it came out . I was close . Yeah , I mean you said 70s or 80s , yep .
Speaker 1But Clue is so much fun to play and you have to be smart and somewhat manipulative .
Speaker 2That is correct . You don't want people to know what you're figuring out so they can't copy you . I do it all the time . Someone will go like they'll do something and then they'll get their notepad and they'll write something down , and then I'll automatically pick my notepad up exaggerating I'll like over-exaggerate picking my stuff up and writing something down , going , oh , just to mess with the other people because they're all almost .
Speaker 1Yeah , it is a bit of a mental game if you really want to , because they are in their head having to solve this murder , correct ? So if you want to do , well , you have to be thinking all the time . But if you get in somebody's head and throw off their train of thought , they'll lose , correct ? I remember playing one time with some people . You were there and I somebody's um , I don't remember how I did it exactly , but it was something like they asked me you know the so and so did it with this , this and this , right , and I showed them a card already . Like I showed them a card I already had shown them before , okay , and the person sitting next to them saw them mark something down , anyways .
Speaker 1And they got so thrown off from that and they thought I was cheating because they thought the rule was I had to show them something new . So they had it in their mind that I showed them something when I didn't actually have that object . But you don't have to show somebody something new in Clue , I could show them the same thing , sure ? So they thought I did and they thought I was cheating . Like , no , just look . No , I didn't have to show them something new if they asked for it .
Speaker 2Yeah , that is funny because , yeah , you think like , oh , I've got to show another one of my cards .
Speaker 1Yeah , because she already had asked for the wrench . So I just showed her the wrench again and she made a mistake , or that the other person had seen the wrench . I can't remember exactly the situation , but it was like they got in their own head in that moment and it really messed them up where I was , like I didn't have to do that yeah , you're peruny , all right , what's uh , what's your , what's your other one ?
Speaker 1do you remember a little old game called muffin time ? We didn't play it much with in our group but I have played it a lot . Okay , and it's again . It's that manipulative , chaotic card game where you're trying to trick while playing the game . It's kind of like uno , but you're playing your cards , but the cards do the wackiest things , like if you place this card face down on the table and somebody touches it , they have to draw five cards . And it's like a cactus , correct , and it's stuff like that . Or like trick , like if somebody says the word baby , uh , they have to draw 10 cards . You know what I mean ? And it's just it's cards that do card , you know , have effects always , but you're also still trying to play cards to get rid of them . I need to break that out and play it again I was gonna say when was the last time we ?
Speaker 1I can't remember . I think it was at your brother's house with us A long time . We all came over just to play that , and that was like seven years ago . Jeez , I need to break it back out because it's such a mind-manipulated game . It's based off of the ASDF movies on YouTube . Didn't they do trial by trolley too ? No , that was that's cyanide and happiness , Cyanide and happiness . And uh , moving on to my next game trial by trolley . Trial by trolley . That game is so much fun .
Speaker 2It is funny , but you definitely have to have the right group of people to play . Because again it's a you got to get up and kind of be , you have to have a personality within playing the game and you got to be able to take a joke . Yeah , you know , because there are some cards in there that it's like okay , we're just some cards that you put in the trash , yeah , but other cards , that's just like .
Speaker 1Yeah , so it's , have you ? You've heard of the ? You've played the game , but just I have played the game , but just I have played the game , so , but so help me to explain it to the viewers . Have you ever heard of what the trolley dilemma is ? Or the train dilemma ?
Speaker 2I have .
Speaker 1Yes , so it's thank you , you're welcome . It is where you know you have two different train tracks and it's like um one elderly person or three young people and it's like you you control which way the train goes and which which group of things .
Speaker 2Well , the philosophical argument is there's a train coming right , there's no stopping , it is blowing through , but you , the only thing you can do is , yeah , pull a crank to make it go to the left or to the right . Do is yeah , pull a crank to make it go to the left or to the right , right or left . One cart has a serial killer who targets whatever , or the other track has . I think it's like three to five orphans or something . Just name your thing . So it's like do you , do you save three to five orphans up front now , or do you save countless ones later ?
Speaker 1Right , because the murderous person kills orphans , Correct . So it's like it's that .
Speaker 2I don't think I'm explaining it correctly .
Speaker 1Yeah , your example , I'm looking at it .
Speaker 2I'm like wait a minute . If you just run over the murder guy , you save more orphans and more orphans .
Speaker 1No , it's , I'm not saying it right , it's a , it's a orphan killer , but he knows the cure for cancer . Or correct , three orphans , something like that , you know , I mean it's stuff like that . So you have to , essentially it's , choose the lesser of two evils . Yeah , and the point of the card game is to build out , as a team , a side that is unkillable . So you want the other team to choose the , the trolley conductor to choose which side is the lesser of two evils , correct ? So that the whole point of the game is to manipulate the situation into winning .
Speaker 2Yeah , so the game is one there's two teams and there's a conductor , so each team has a rail or a cart line and they're trying to make theirs the track that is not driven on , which survives , which anyone on it survives .
Speaker 2So there's like good cards and then bad cards , so it's like so you can play good cards on your trolley line and you can play bad cards on your opponent's trolley line and then you argue about you argue with to try and convince the conductor to not go on your track right but to go on the opponent's track right , it's a lot of fun , but the cards can be a little , I guess , inappropriate .
Speaker 2Yeah , but but only in the sense of conversating which one is killed yeah , because I mean you could make it like there's a way to make it like , hey , this , this , you don't want to go down this track because there's an orphan boy on the track . And then an opponent plays a card and says , yeah , but that orphan's actually Satan , right ? And you're like , well , I guess I'm going down this card now . And he's like , no , because he's got the cure to cancer . Yeah , so no , because he's got the cure to cancer . Yeah , so yeah , it is funny .
Speaker 1And there are some that are like , oh it really depends on your humor and your group of people understanding . It's just a game Correct
Munchkin Deep Dive
Speaker 1On what you can play .
Speaker 2But it is a fun game it is .
Speaker 1It's a lot of fun . So let me get into a couple that I don't fully classify as card games , but they have such a card game community feel to it . Sure , so , like you know , people around the table playing a board game and whatnot , but it's really not a board game .
Speaker 2So one of those is do you remember a little game called Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes ? I've heard of it , but I don't think I . Oh , it's the bomb defusal game . Yes , yes , yes , I remember it . I remember . Oh , that game is so much fun . It is fun because it is an actual like . The way it's set up is there's a bomb and it's in one spot and the bomb is all like a on the computer a game software .
Speaker 1yeah , it's a game spot and the bomb is on the computer a game software .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's a game software so you can move around and stuff . But then there's another group of people that have the instructions printed out on paper and that's in person .
Speaker 1You actually have physical pieces of paper with the instructions on how to defuse the bomb , correct , and so you are having to communicate . So the one player is looking at the bomb and that's the only person who should be looking at the bomb , and the people with the manual should not see what the person is seeing , and they have to communicate and describe back and forth . So it's like , uh , I see five red wires . It's like , okay , five red wires means cut the third one . You know , it's that kind of thing . So you're having to communicate back and forth and it's some of the most fun just because you had you .
Speaker 2It really reinforces teamwork , yes , and communication I always wanted for one of when we were running youth group , for one of the lock-ins .
Speaker 2I wanted to do a nerf battle with that incorporated into yeah , so defending your location , so the bad guys will be trying to attack the good guy's base and kind of just randomly walking around . The good guys have to find the bomb . The moment that they find it , the timer starts Right and the good guy base is where the instructions are and the other guys are where the bomb is and they've got walkie-talkies and they've got to defuse the bomb before it explodes or before the good guy base gets taken out by .
Speaker 1It just so we came up with the craziest stuff for youth group , yeah , for youth nights .
Speaker 2It was so much fun doing that . If there was one thing we were good at , it was preaching the gospel and coming up with some games , the .
Speaker 1I have a story about that . I remember we did have that at one lock-in one year and so everybody could see like we had it set up so the people's backs were to the projector who had the manual so everybody could see the module , yeah , so everybody was kind of watching . But then you just had the one person on the bomb communicating it and they were on one of the toughest bombs , because each bomb has different modules and different things . So you have to be going through the booklet and you're like , okay , where's the , where's that at ? Okay , let me start going in .
Speaker 1And some of that stuff is crazy difficult to start describing what you're looking at . You know what I mean . It's like morse code and all this other stuff . And there was one that was like you had to dial into a radio station and they would say like a code word and all this stuff , and they had like five seconds left . This is the last module and it's like they're obviously not going to win , correct , and so they were working so hard . And it's just like , again , I'm looking at they just started .
Speaker 1They had , like you know , 15 seconds left and it was counting down , they were trying to find the pages . Five seconds left and the guy just panics who was doing the bomb , he's like , uh , and he pressed some buttons , moved the dial , pressed a and it defused the bomb . Just luck , I was standing there and I lost it laughing , because of the pure luck in that moment . I have never seen it happen and I just could not believe that they had that kind of luck on one of the hardest bombs . Yeah , it just randomly pressed some buttons and it diffused the bomb . It's insane . I think they had one second left .
Speaker 2That's crazy oh my god , it was yeah , but that that is yeah . That game is a lot of fun .
Speaker 1Well , I'll probably have to break it out again . Yeah , All these games I'm going to have to find trial by trial I'm going to find we're sitting here talking about it and I'm like it's taking me back to the lock-in days .
Speaker 2I'm like , dude , why don't we do a lock-in again and we come up with some of these banger activities and games and stuff ?
Speaker 1We just go out for a night rent like a community center place and just have everybody come out and play games . Yeah , I'm all about it .
Speaker 2All right , saints that sleep over no , but that would be fun to a saints that serve lock-in party yeah , I'd be all about that .
Speaker 1I would be 100 that .
Speaker 2It'd have to be for adults , though , because I don't want to have to figure out release forms .
Speaker 1I know . Right , that was some of the worst for the youth was the— Background checks , release forms , all the stuff that's necessary . But just like you know who I am , you know what I mean . Trust me , if I did commit some crime from the last time I submitted a background check , three weeks ago Three weeks ago you would have known . You know what I mean . Correct , so Correct . So I got one last one here .
Speaker 1It's an honorable mention , but it's not a board game , okay , but it feels like one every time you play it , and that is the jack box party pack . I was gonna ask if that was one of them . Yeah , it's , it's a video game . It is fun , but the way that you sit around and the way that you play those games , it's very reminiscent of just sitting around the table and spending time with your family playing a game at the table , correct ? So Jackbox Party Pack is just a bunch of random different little mini games , mm-hmm , and they have like 40 or 50 now like different games .
Speaker 1Yeah , but they have 10 packs . They'll have an 11th . They come out with one every year . Wow , I think they come out with new material . They're always really great but Interesting , and they come up with new material . They're always really great but interesting . I never have like the opportunity to have all of them come around enough people , except for thanksgiving and christmas for my side of the family and waffle fest , so it's like for everybody to get together to play it , and not all we don't always play . It is around holidays . Yeah , so like , and what's funny too is is every year they have a new pack come out and my people , on my like , on my family , always , always just want to play drawful drawful they all , but they don't want to call it drawful .
Speaker 1They always say I want to play the drawing game , I want to play that drawing game . So we always play Drawful when there's a billion other choices of fun things . And I always try to be like let's try this new one , let's try this new one . And it's always difficult to get people convinced of it , because Jackbox also gets kind of complicated . Sure , because there's multiple aspects of things going around .
Speaker 1So like , for example , with Drawful , it's like you draw a picture , like you're given a prompt and you're supposed to draw this picture . Then you're then , one at a time , shown each person's picture . No , you're showing somebody else's picture . Yeah , each one at a time . Somebody else's picture . Everybody sees one picture . You then have to come up with a guess of what that picture was . No , come up with a guess of what that picture was , no . So then the third aspect of is , at that point , while , while trying to trick other people into the same , thinking that that is the correct answer , you then have to find the correct answer .
Speaker 1So it's three tiers of how that game works , and then you know you get points based off how well you do . Yeah , so it's a lot of fun . But if that didn't make sense the way I described it , it's that confusing when you first play it . But when you play it and go through it , it like after one round , immediately clicked . You're like , oh , this is really simple . Yeah , every single . It's so difficult to get everybody together because every Jackbox game , pack game , it's like that when it's . They explain it and you're like what am I doing ?
Speaker 2Yeah , it's confusing at the get-go , but as you play it , it works itself out and you understand what's going on .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's always like we're just going to play around , but there's some Jackbox games that are just like we've never played because like it's kind of inappropriate Sure , games , that is just like we've never played because like it's kind of inappropriate , sure . So , like what is it ? It's um , the monster meets monster . Yeah , the monster seeking monster seeking monster . It's a lot of fun to play , but you're trying to hit on family members through this texting yeah , but it's like that's again you got to take your mind out of .
Speaker 1You're just playing . You got to . You know your mind is I'm just playing this game . Otherwise , it's weird when you might be hitting on your . You know your sister or whatever .
Speaker 2You know what I mean .
Speaker 1It is weird .
Speaker 2I'm trying to think of what we play whenever we were playing it . What was that ?
Speaker 1Drawful . We played man , there's so many . Yeah , Trivia Murder Party . I , man , there's so many . Yeah , trivia murder party . I take your word for it . I can't remember that one , but it was the one that was staged like a horror movie , but it was like just a trivia game , maybe . Okay , there's so many . There's one that's like called gaspionage , where you have to . It's just a over complicated looking version of the brands one , the marketing one we're like oh , that was the brand .
Speaker 1That's right , you have to come up with an item and then pitch your like , uh , what was that ? Shoot , I can't remember what that was called , but yeah , you had to come up , you draw again . It's a lot of it's drawing yep but you draw a picture and then you have to pitch your invention idea yeah , and there was something about it like being on a t-shirt or something that's different .
Speaker 1That's called tko oh , where you have to draw a um t-shirt , a t-shirt , t-shirt . And what was funny about that was that if you , you could , at the end of the game , buy your t-shirt and they'd send it to you . Yeah , I still have your , the one that you made . And you end up buying like four shirts and just gave them to everybody . It was a picture of a baby and it said is it love or poop ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I only bought one . They sent me like three . Oh , that's right , it was weird . But yeah , is it love or poop ? That's funny .
Speaker 1All right , cool . Yeah , let's move on , because I could keep talking about all these board games , these jackpots . It's so much fun . We're going to have to have like a stream night or something to play those games . Yeah , get a big crowd .
Speaker 2Make it happen . I'm all about it . All right , you want to get ?
Speaker 1into the . Do you have any honorable mentions before we get into the main topic ? Or the second part of the main topic .
Speaker 2I did not prepare for honorable mentions . I should have , but I did not . I mean a good one . That's an easy game to play that there's a little bit of strategy and a little bit of aggression , but it's pretty fun . Is Ticket to Ride ? That's an honorable mention . It's a fun game to play , but I mean it's limited . Only five people can play .
Speaker 1Yeah , I tried playing like the virtual version of ticket to ride . Yeah , and I play like like maybe five minutes of it and I'm like I can't do this I turned it off .
Speaker 2I um , that's the hardest thing about board games is the limitation of how many people can play . Yeah , you know , like when it comes to board games , a lot of them , it's like four to five people .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2That's it . And then there are some that will go up to like eight , six or eight .
Speaker 1Well , I've got here . So it's like I talked about Jackbox Party Pack and it's like it says two to eight plus , because there's one game that has you can have up to 100 players .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Uno says two to 10 . Keep talking , nobody explodes . It's two plus , but really it's multiple people working at the paperwork side of things . Yeah , yeah , so it's like board games it's hard to get that many , or it's hard to have a lot of people there playing one board game .
Speaker 2Yep , yeah , so when you got a big crowd , it's one of those things where it's just you just gotta divvy them up and have multiple games going at the same time , unfortunately . But uh , yeah , all right , I uh , I'm ready for our main event let's get ready to rumble .
Speaker 1yeah , I'm gonna jacked up on mountain dew . That was last week , that was last week and maybe this week . Oh , we're talking about Munchkin , munchkin , it's a .
Speaker 2For those who don't know , it's a game .
Speaker 1Yeah , we're still talking about board games people . It's a board game . Munchkin is so much fun . It comes together with all these other games that I talked about into one package .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1So I talked about Uno into one package . Yeah , so I talked about Uno . It's a card game the manipulativeness , the backstabbing , the fun arguing of things and the improv of Munchkin . You know what I mean ? That's just .
Speaker 2It's Munchkin dude , yeah . So the game is played where you're all going it's kind of inspiration slash making fun of Dungeons , dragons , mm-hmm going . It's . It's kind of inspiration slash making fun of dungeons and dragons , and you're all in a dungeon and there's 10 levels . You're all competing to get to level 10 and there's everything is based on cards , so you draw cards and you can build out your character and so you have , there's monster cards and armor cards and weapon cards and curses , potions and potions and items .
Speaker 1It's all cards .
Speaker 2It's all cards , so you can use it to build out your character . You can use it to curse other characters . You can fight monsters . You can put other monsters into someone else's fight to make them lose .
Speaker 1You can negotiate and become a team helping another person fight , and then you can negotiate what you win from that fight , and it's so much fun .
Speaker 2So yeah , the main thing in the game is the dialogue between players .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2Because that's what makes the game go around . And then there's just a bunch of different cards that add to the game go around . And then there's just a bunch of different cards that add to the game , be it items or changes of game mode or what have you .
Speaker 1And what's great , too , is there's a vagueness on the cards that allows for negotiating and communication and debating on what that means in the situation how to interpret the card for it to be played .
Speaker 2Yeah , there are some that it's like hard lines , it's very clear , like a wandering monster card .
Speaker 1This is what the card does . Nothing else can do this with this card . Yeah , but then there's like okay . So , for an example , there is a card called brick wall . Yes , and that card is so argued , argued about every time we play because of the situation that it arises in to use that card . Yes , it says on the card this card stops the fight . And you can interpret it what this fight , another fight , your fight . Can I play this card on another fight ? You know ?
Speaker 1I mean it's yeah and so it's caused so many arguments and it's so funny because , depending on when we play and who we play with it , it's different .
Speaker 2Yeah , and we , and a lot of times I allow it to be different , I'll allow the interpretation to be different every single time we play yeah , because I think that's like some of the arguments are like the brick walls dropped and this fight is over , and it's like is it the whole fight or ?
Speaker 1the original monster because you can wait .
Speaker 2Lay down another monster if you have a wandering monster card and so it's like people will argue and debate it until you know . It's just like let's just move on , right then . Whatever the last interpretation was is what we do .
Speaker 1There is a set rule in the rule book that says whoever owns the game has final say in an argument , correct ? You used to own the game and then you got rid of it . I , for that reason , bought the game so I could have . I don't say every time we ever play it yeah , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2So and that that is one thing that I had to . I had the game and I had a bunch of add-ons for it and everything , and then I got super convicted about like how much it was dictating my emotions . Yeah , to the point where I couldn't walk away from the table and leave the game at the table .
Speaker 1And you know , I was struggling like with because there is magic stuff in it , but a lot of it , and this isn't defending it , it's a lot of parody .
Speaker 2It's a lot of parody and it's very light-hearted stuff . But I was going through this phase of my life like really hashing out , okay , when it comes to magic , like where do I stand , like what do I do , how do I operate ? And so while I was figuring all that out , I kind of just moved all my magic stuff or stuff that had anything if it had the word magic in it . I was just like , all right , I'm just going to get rid of it and you know . So I've worked through all that and I'm fine with playing Munchkin . Yeah , you know I've worked through all that stuff , but yeah , I had it and we mean we played what like every friday we got together and played every friday and I talked about how I don't like playing games back to back .
Speaker 1Long games , munchkin can last anywhere from 60 minutes to two hours , sometimes correct , and we would play it back to back correct .
Speaker 2I mean , it got to the point to where it didn't matter what we were doing on friday . We brought munchkin with us so that , wherever we were at , we could break it out and play . Yeah , oh , I got in my car , let's go weekend , yeah .
Speaker 1So uh , I think we freaked some people out , like just they would sit and listen to us play the game because it would be me , you , your wife , yep and ezra , and then a bunch of new people , because that was our kind of four people who are always playing it , and we always got so into it . Yeah , I think daryl played a lot too with us yeah , daryl , yeah daryl would play with us brendan , brendan loved it yeah , and uh , who else ?
Speaker 1yeah , there's a handful of people , but yeah yeah , but it was always me , you , your wife , usually Ezra , and then anybody else who happened to be around Correct , and it was always so much , it was so funny .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1Because anybody around us never seeing us play before we were all into it Deeply . We would be . It would be shouting magic , yeah , and people were like you guys are friends your friend . No , we would be . I like you said you probably didn't you let it affect you outside the game . Yeah , but I'm just sitting there in the same way I play all these other games and this is my me personally . Yeah , I would come and I would purposely annoy the heck out of you and everybody else , but , but only in Munchkin , correct ? I would be such a jerk in Munchkin . Yeah , and it was so much fun . It was a way to really , if you have a stressful week , friday night you are allowed to yell at each other . Yeah , it probably wasn't the most healthy way to get out your grievances of the week , especially on people who didn't deserve it . Mm-hmm .
Speaker 2But it was fun . Yeah , it was fun . And still I mean , we don't nearly play it nearly as much as we used to , but we still do .
Speaker 1Yeah , occasionally it'll be broken out .
Speaker 2Yeah , we used to play . We used to have board game nights a lot and we would all get together and play a game . Most of the times it'd end up being munchkin , yeah , but we would do other stuff too , yeah . So , yeah , board games happened a lot and then the crowds kind of changed , like the social group kind of changed .
Speaker 1A lot of people had something happen or moved away or whatever , we also got older and then realized we shouldn't be shouting at each other .
Speaker 2Well , yeah , but I'm just saying as far as game nights in general , where it was like that was the social thing that we would do . We'd all get together and we would play board games . And now it's kind of one of those things where you got to work really hard to get enough people . Yeah , have a game night , and people are really comfortable with just saying no , now , yeah , you know , because it's just their . Their . Their social outlet is not in that getting together with this group of people to play board games , that's just their social outlet is not in that getting together with this group of people to play board games , that's not their social outlet anymore .
Speaker 2Yeah , and so you know , for me , I think that that was something I had to cope with and struggle with a little bit , because it was like I love getting together with people and playing games , because that's where you get to have , that's where you get to joke with each other and just decompress and socialize with people that you love and have a good time . And then , you know , people started like bowing out , being like no , I'm not gonna play tonight or no , I can't really do it this time , and and then that was the excuse every single time and it got to the point where I was like , okay , so you don't want to be my friend anymore . You know that was the excuse every single time and it got to the point where I was like , okay , so you don't want to be my friend anymore . You know that was the- .
Speaker 1No , I just don't want to play board games with you because you yell at me Exactly . No , I'm kidding .
Speaker 2No , but you know it is a little bit of that , like some people move on from that , yeah , or feel or grow out or get bored of doing that all the time or whatever and if that's you know where you've put your stock in like this is my social life , and then all your friends don't want to do it anymore .
Speaker 1You're like , oh dang , I don't have any friends it's funny too because , uh , I , that's part of that's my personality . This game sums up my . I have a very I'm calm on the on the mic on the podcast and I've calmed down as I've grown older . I've always been mischievous and I've been loud playing board games and Munchkins brought all of those traits out of me when playing . Yes , Because all that Do you remember playing ? I think it was Catan , and for me , when I was losing a game when I was younger , I thought it'd be funny to I wouldn't cheat , but I would do things like mix cards up and stuff like that . Just I I shouldn't have , but in my mind I was . I wasn't cheating cause I was already going to lose . In my mind I was throwing chaos into the game . Yep , and I did that to your wife playing Catan , Mm , Mm , and I wasn't allowed back to your house for like a month after that because she lost because of it , you weren't allowed to come back to the next Catan game .
Speaker 2That's what it was . That's what it was . That was like 10 years ago . That was a long time ago . But yeah , she got real mad , but it's because there was a wager on the line . I forgot about that . That's what it was . Her and I had a personal bet between each other .
Speaker 1And it was funny . I didn't see what card I took , but it ended up being a major card that caused her to lose the game , correct . So yeah , and for that , johnny's wife , I apologize . Ten years later , finally getting your apologize .
Speaker 2There you go Love it , yeah but , dude , 10 years later finally getting your apologize , there you go , love it , yeah , but dude , that was , yeah . Board games , especially when we were doing Munchkin all the time , it was a big deal because that was the social outlet , mm-hmm .
Speaker 1And now , Because we would go to in-person worship night , yep , and then after that everybody would hang out after the worship night and play board games or play games or watch a movie or whatever . And it turned into for a good two months straight of munchkin every night and somebody new would come to that worship night and they wouldn't come back because we'd be yelling at each other .
Speaker 2yeah , or if we didn't play that night , we would play Sunday after youth band practice . Or there'd be like a random Saturday where we had to get together for a meeting , for something , and we'd play .
Speaker 1Or remember for that stint of like two times when we tried playing it at work , when me and you and everybody from the worship night all worked at the same place , yeah , and we tried to bust it out and play and that didn't last long because we got in trouble because of the way we played in the break room .
Speaker 2Yeah , I've totally forgot about that .
Speaker 1Oh man , I think we were like we played it twice and an hour is not long enough first off to play this Correct and second off it happened twice and we were asked not to play again . Yeah , kind of stupid .
Speaker 2But you know , whatever it was , but it was like we , we were playing that and then it was like , okay , you can't play anymore . So then everyone just started bringing their switch in yeah , and playing , playing that on break and it was like okay , I guess we can hang out and do this , but the camaraderie just you know I will say something .
Speaker 1So we played the digital version of this . We both own it on Steam , munchkin on On the phone . It's an app . I think it's cross-play . I have it on Steam , you have it on the phone . No-transcript . Oh , okay , I think I bought it on the phone too . Anyways , because it limits what you can do with it , because it takes away that it's still there , but so limited the negotiations between one another and how you play .
Speaker 2You don't . That's the thing is , you don't really get to negotiate .
Speaker 1No , you can technically do it , but at the end of the day , it's like you're limited to like , where we can negotiate whatever Like . I'll give you this curse card , this monster card , this card . I'll give you 20 bucks . I'll give you this cheeseburger . It was limited to any items that had a value on it , so anything that had a gold value , yeah , you couldn't trade anything and you didn't get to negotiate the interpretation . Right , there was one set rule on the card and that was good to know that .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1So when you play , you could use that to your advantage in the argument .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1But it's so much more fun when there's multiple ways to say this is what this card means . Yeah , and let's get back into it . I think we started on the rules and how the game works , but we got so sidetracked on our great fun memories of it . But , like you said , the goal is to get through the dungeon and get to the level 10 . The dungeon and get to the level 10 to get to a level you have to defeat a monster and it will give you . It'll say on the card how many levels you go up for beating the monster and how many treasure you get for that monster . Yeah , treasures build up your strength , items , swords , armor , uh , buff , item buffs , potions and levels and levels and levels . Your level is whatever room . Your base level is whatever room you're in . So if you're in room one , you're level one Plus your stats of your cards and you just will .
Speaker 1Essentially , it's called kicking down the door . Kicking down the door and you flip down over a card and if it's a monster , you fight it . It has a level . You have a level over a car and if it's a monster , you fight it . It has a , it has a level , you have a level and if you beat it , you beat it , you go up the level . It's fairly basic , but you're building out your cards , you have your items . It's like playing a parody of dungeons and dragons , correct . But the fun comes in where you have the curse cards that you , as other players , try to mess up other people . Uh , you can help , it's so interpretable . But once you get to level 10 , you win .
Speaker 2Dude .
Speaker 1And it takes so much time .
Speaker 2Munchkin Disney card game .
Speaker 1Oh , and that's another great . Okay , let me get into that . Okay , hold on . So there , there's your baseline Munchkin game card game , correct ? There are so many expansions on munchkin that changes the rules , like where it's like you now have mounts , or it adds a new race , or in another and it adds a class , because you have races like orcs , wizards and sorry , uh , orcs , dwarfs , elves , and then classes like archers and wizards and stuff like that . You can have a combination and so it . These expansions add so much to it and the expansions are interchangeable with one another . So , like you can have like , uh , there's the base munchkins , and then super munchkins , which is superhero themed cards , yep , which takes it completely out of the fantasy theme . You know what I mean . That is under . Then there's like a star wars esque theme , it's like munchkin star . There's scoobyoo , munchkin , zombies , munchkin Cthulhu .
Speaker 2Mm-hmm Munchkin Warhammer 40,000 . Yes .
Speaker 1Munchkin Apocalypse and all these cards are interchangeable with how you're playing the game and it's really cool how it does that . That means there are tens of thousands of cards that does stuff in Munchkin Because there's so many different expansions and you know they have your . So you have your baseline game and then you have your mainline fantasy card that have expansions . It's not really enough to play the game but you could technically play with any Munchkin set you could buy . You can play by itself .
Speaker 2Yeah , you can mix them in together yeah .
Speaker 1But also , if say you buy expansion 10 , it only comes with like 40 new cards . It's not really enough to play . But in theory you could buy all the expansions and not the base game , sure , and have your own amount of munchkin , sure yeah , the uh .
Speaker 2They came out with a big box this year . It's called munchkin big box and it has 650 cards .
Speaker 1Oh , is it enough to hold 650 cards ?
Speaker 2no , no , no the box comes with 650 cards I wonder if that's just all the expansions together .
Speaker 1I think it is . That's what it looks like . That's what I bought . I bought all the at the time . I bought all the , the baseline and all the expansions that were out at that time , which I think was 10 , and it doesn't even scratch the surface of how many cards munchkin has total .
Speaker 2Yeah , it really yeah it , it , it doesn't , and there's not really a good way to see . It looks like it has the portals , the base cards .
Speaker 1Oh , portals was fun because that added literally portals . That added effects to the game . It gets so complicated . I a lot of times say let's not play with portals .
Speaker 2Yeah , it does , because it kind of messes with the overall . You get portaled into another dimension , so it's like , and the way the game plays is now different .
Speaker 1It's like now all zombies are triple powered . Because you were transported to a world in the middle of apocalypse , you know .
Speaker 2Yeah , dude , I'm just scrolling through their products on their website and there's there's a lot , there's a lot . There's Munchkin's Batman , nice .
Speaker 1That's funny . I need to get all the munchkin cards that have the fantasy back of it that they all like . Where our baseline ? Because not all of them have the same back of the card . Yeah , so I want to get all of the I think that's the fantasy themed back . I guess in theory , you could sit there and put them all in card sleeves and they all have the same back . You know , munchkin , harry Potter , really .
Speaker 2Yep , and SpongeBob , I'll get that SpongeBob one Munchkin , spongebob , squarepants , that's funny . Munchkin Russia They've got a Munchkin Russia , russia-themed Munchkin . What the .
Speaker 1This item is a sickle .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , for real , there's a pirate brand version . Oh , they did one for Critical Role . Hmm , interesting , I didn't know that . Well , now you do , and now you know .
Speaker 1So I have . Speaking of munchkins and the cards , I have a little game . Okay , it's called Munchkin or Malarkey .
Speaker 2Munchkin or Malarkey Okay .
Speaker 1So here we go . It's time for a game we call Munchkin or Malarkey , where I read a totally absurd Munchkin card and John has to decide Is it real , an official card from the twisted minds behind the Munchkin franchise , or something I just made up in the shower ? Let's see if you've got the brains to spot the bluff or if you're about to be cursed with the Duck of Doom . This is Munchkin or Malarkey . So the rules are simple I'm going to read you a Munchkin card and you got to tell me if it's real or not . All right , so your phrasing is Munchkin or Malarkey , okay , and so I kind of gave you a little hint on that first one . But your first card is the duck of Doom . That is Munchkin . You are correct , level up . And number two is Banana of Mass Distraction . That is a monster card , and it makes you slip up with potassium-powered chaos . Is that munchkin or malarkey ?
Speaker 2I'm going to say malarkey .
Speaker 1That is correct , yeah baby . Now we have , for number three , the invisible pink unicorn . It is an ally . So like a ? What do you call it ? Yeah , like a steed , a hireling , a hireling . Yeah , like a steve , a hireling or hireling . Okay , it's a hireling . It offers moral support and a plus one bonus .
Speaker 2She's very real um , I want to say yes , but I think that that is malarkey that is munchkin .
Speaker 1The next card is the therapist of doom . It's a monster and you must discard all negative emotional baggage . And two cards if you lose , I'm gonna say that , that is munchkin that is malarkey . Come on next . I have potion of idiotic bravery . It's a one-shot motion . Do you remember that card ? I ?
Speaker 2I hope so , otherwise I'm making stuff up , it's real .
Speaker 1Let me finish now . We have for number six , blessed fanny pack of holding . It's an armor .
Speaker 2It lets you hold one extra card , because it's divine trying to think if I can remember that in play or not , because it very much sounds like something that would be in an expansion pack , but I don't know . I'm going to say Malarkey , it's .
Speaker 1Malarkey , baby , let's go . Number seven , the IRS Wrath . Baby , let's go . Number seven , the IRS Wrath . It's a monster card and it demands you give up 10% of your gold in taxes . If you are defeated by it , I'm going to say malarkey , that is malarkey .
Speaker 2Number eight IRS is going to take more than 10% . Let's be honest .
Speaker 1Do what ?
Speaker 2IRS is going to take more than 10% . I know right .
Speaker 1Number eight the Chainsawaw of bloody dismemberment . It's a weapon . It's plus three bonus in his two hands . I'm gonna say munchkin , that is munchkin . It is the weapon he holds on the cover of the box .
Speaker 2Yep yep , yep , I was trying to think of the name . If that checks out , or if it's named something different and it just does the same thing , it just does the same thing yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1Next we have Sharktopus . It's a monster . It's half shark , half octopus . All pain . Is it Munchkin or Malarkey ? Malarkey , that is Munchkin , my friend , all right . Number 10 , boots of Buttkicking it's armor , a classic . Plus two bonus Munchkin . Yeah , it is Heck , yeah , baby . Next is Gnome with a death ray . It's a monster , tiny but dangerous , especially with tech .
Speaker 2I want to say Malarkey , because I think Gnome is a race that you can be in one of the expansions .
Speaker 1That's incorrect . That is Munchkin . It's from the Star Munchkin expansion Dang . Next is Elder Karen . Elder Karen . Yes , it's a monster . She wants to speak to the dungeon manager . Plus two if you're male Like she does , plus two to damage .
Speaker 2Yeah , I'm going to say Munchkin .
Speaker 1That is Malarkey . Come on , man , so real . The next one is the Dunwich Snorer . She is a monster . She is a sleeping beast . If you snore while playing the game , it wakes up and attacks .
Speaker 2Malarkey .
Speaker 1That is from Munchkin , cthulhu . That is from Munchkin Cthulhu .
Speaker 2This is the problem , because Munchkin has 38 pages of products on their website man , it's great and each page has like 20 to 30 items on it .
Speaker 1One day , one day , I'm going to you know what , If we ever start to get a budget on the show , it'll all go towards Munchkin merch .
Speaker 2It'll all go towards buying Munchkin stuff .
Speaker 1Oh my gosh . So we have as the next one , laser Mazer , gazer Blazer . It's a weapon , it's plus five bonus four words infinite power Munchkin . That is from Star Munchkin . The next card is Sassy Rainbow Pegacorn . It's a monster , looks adorable but hits like a truck .
Speaker 2I'm going to say munchkin it is . It's from munchkin unicorns did you know there's a munchkin duck tails ? I didn't interesting . Yeah , it came out in 2019 nice .
Speaker 1Next card is Monologue of Villainy . It's a one-shot item . It stalls combat while you deliver your evil speech .
Speaker 2Malarkey .
Speaker 1That is Malarkey , let's go . Next card Unnatural Axe . It's a weapon , an axe .
Speaker 2Munchkin .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's from Munchkin too . I remember a weapon , an axe , munchkin . Yeah , it's from Munchkin too . I remember that card yeah .
Speaker 2I remember me some unnatural axe .
Speaker 1The next one is Captain Ursatz . Captain Ursatz , it's a monster , a superhero , who's definitely not from any known universe .
Speaker 2Uh , definitely not from any known universe . It's a monster card , captain Ersatz . Definitely not known from any universe . Yes man , that just sounds Munchkin-y . I will risk it , I will say Munchkin .
Speaker 1That is from Super Munchkin . Come on , baby . Next , next card the four horsemen . It's a monster . Yes , all four . If one escapes , it still counts . Malarkey , that is from munchkin apocalypse . And the last card okay , board game night . Game night , it's a monster . You're attacked by a horde of overly competitive gamers .
Speaker 2Oh man , that sounds All right . I'm going to try it , munchkin .
Speaker 1It's Munchkin from Munchkin Zombie , let's go . So thank you everybody for listening in for this episode of Munchkin or Malarkey . Would you like to know how you did , john ? Give it to me , regis . All right , you've got out of 20 , 15 , correct ? Yay , that makes you in the game of Munchkin and Malarkey , a level 8 , chaotic . Good enough , that is your ranking , congratulations , yay .
Speaker 2Awesome , well , yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah , we did it .
Speaker 2We did it .
Speaker 1Do you like that game ? You like that , that was fun , I'm glad . That was very themed and very good . Thank you , we did it . You like that game ? You like that ? That was fun , I'm glad .
Speaker 2That was very themed and very good . Thank you , you're welcome .
Speaker 1Great , you know , that's Munchkin . We have a lot of fun with it , you know , and I hope that we can kind of pick it up and start playing it a lot more .
Speaker 2Yes maybe one day , one day , yeah . So that's munchkin , do we wanna do ?
Speaker 1we have enough time to do a corner . Yes , we do so , tyler . This is your transition into the corner . Step inside if you dare . Shadows move , mysteries whisper and the unknown awaits . Welcome to the Corner .
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Speaker 2So this is the Corner what you got for us this week , john . We promised , we promised , uh , do spiracy . So we're . We're going to be talking about the mountain dew conspiracy , or mountain dew gate . We'll call it mountain dew mountain dew gate .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , so we talked about this last week a little bit . Well , not last week .
Speaker 2We played a game . Yeah called Do or Do Not Do , or Do Not Do the Do or Don't . There we go Do the Do or Don't . Sorry , and in that we kind of brought up the conspiracy theory about Mountain Dew flavors .
Speaker 1So that's what we're going to be talking about . Yeah , and you showed me the video that you're kind of started off with this and I'm like that's , that's crazy .
Speaker 2Well , that's the thing is . It was brought up originally on a podcast episode by a guy named Maverick and it has since then spread in the internet verse and people are talking about it , because now people are going back and looking and realizing like , uh , he's not wrong , right ? So you know and this is the big thing is he brought up that it's not every single Mountain Dew flavor ? No , it tends to be the ones that they make a really big deal about in promoting Then , shortly after , something happens . So start at the beginning . Okay .
Speaker 2So the idea is that Mountain Dew will come out with a flavor . They'll heavily promote it and then later on that year , a catastrophe of some kind happens and it seems to line up with the name of that flavor . So the most on the nose is Maui Blast . It came out in 2023 . A couple of months later , the Mauui wildfires happen , right that sweep across the island of maui in hawaii . So that's a big one , right ? The ? There was the one that they talked about , the star spangled . What did they call ? The spanger spangled something ? Star spangled , cherry berry or something .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's a mountain dew flavor that has to do with like red , white and blue , but it it correlated to the star spangled banner , and a couple of months after that , the bridge which is named after the man who wrote the star spangled banner uh collapsed from a boat running into it , and so it was a big natural disaster deal and that happened . I don't remember when that happened , actually , but one of the craziest ones was Code Red . Code Red yeah , mountain Dew Code Red came out and then afterwards , 9-11 happened , which is a Code Red , like the Twin Towers being attacked and falling .
Speaker 1Mm-hmm .
Speaker 2So that one I mean that one plays into all the conspiracy guys that are like 9-11 was an inside job .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 2And they're communicating with the Mountain Dew .
Speaker 1Pepsi company . Yeah , exactly To give you hints . Oh yeah , the one I thought was crazy is this new flavor that's about to come out , like Baja Midnight , baja Midnight . No , I don't really care about the theory , I just kind of want to try the drink .
Speaker 2I do , yeah , I'm kidding , I don't care , I do want to try it out , though . No , they announced it . I don't think that it's out yet . At Taco Bell Maybe it is , but yeah , so it came out with . They announced at the beginning of 22 and 5 at Taco Bell Live yeah , which was weird , like everyone acknowledged . Like this is weird that they're doing like a fast food restaurant announcement , almost like what . Dragon con is yeah where the , or like when they do the different game releases .
Speaker 2Yeah , like a huge convention with announcements and stuff . Yeah , they did it for taco bell , for the taco bell menu everybody get excited .
Speaker 1We got another taco coming out . Yeah , new mountain dew flavor .
Speaker 2So weird , but anyway . So they did that and they announced that they were coming out with an exclusive taco bell mountain dew flavor and it was called baja midnight mountain dew , baja midnight , and so that was okay , that's cool . We're getting a new Baja Mountain Dew flavor . And then , most recently , the bombing the American bombing of the Iran nuclear sites occurred . The name of that operation , that last minute surprise operation no one knew it was coming .
Speaker 1And it just happened . Did it be called Operation Baja Midnight ? No , it was called Midnight Hammer , midnight Hammer .
Speaker 2And so that was a big turning point for everything that was going on over there . But it's just crazy Midnight Midnight Baja , midnight Midnight Hammer .
Speaker 1I would say the closest thing and it doesn't line up . But if it was orchestrated , that they are actually naming it after the event happened . But that's not the case .
Speaker 2Correct . They're not naming it after the names come out , before the . Whatever the name comes out and then something happens that lines up with the name . Like it's never really hard to connect the two . It's very easy to connect them right .
Speaker 1So I will say my only argument , like a legitimate , real argument on this , is that I would give more validity to it if it happened for every single flavor . But there's such huge gaps that , though it is odd , it's enough to be a coincidence in my book . It's still crazy , don't get me wrong . Yeah , but it's like , okay , what is gaps between the this midnight one and the one before ?
Speaker 2I don't remember the some of the dates on the ones , but I mean , the maui fires happened in 2023 , okay , so that would be that . Code red came out in 2001 . Yeah , I don't remember when the star spangled do came out . I'm still trying to find that on the list the the star spangled bannered one . I will say that , um , there was when I was first looking into this baja . Midnight wasn't on the radar for me , yeah , so I was looking at the dew mountain dew releases for , like the summer or whatever , and the one that was happening this year was mountain dew summer freeze summer , for oh no , I was like no , oh , I don't know .
Speaker 1I kind of would like to nice to have , it would be kind of nice to have some cold weather right now , because it is a hot outside .
Speaker 2It is hot but dude's like no side and there's just an ice my livelihood . Oh man , dude , it would be messed up .
Speaker 1But yeah , that one would be crazy if we got snow in July . Yeah , that's true . Have we ever gotten snow in Georgia in July ?
Speaker 2Not that I'm aware of , there you go . I we ever gotten snow in Georgia in July . Never . Not that I'm aware of there you go . I've never had it in July Mountain Dew Voodoo . I feel like there was something behind that one .
Speaker 1I could be wrong , though . You went to Universal Studios recently , right Last year . Yeah , don't be turned off by the name , but did you get stopped by voodoo donuts and get one of their donuts there ?
Speaker 2no , we went to uh the , the simpsons themed one oh , and got the big boy donut . Yeah what lard , lard lad . Yeah , we went to lard lad and we got . We didn't get the big one , we got the four-pack of donuts Gotcha Different flavors .
Speaker 1Voodoo Donuts . I know it's a little off-topic , but they have like the craziest flavors , like when I went they had like a Butterfinger-flavored donut . It's inside the park , it's in City Walk . It's in City Walk , okay park .
Speaker 2It's in city walk . It's in city walk , okay , so you pass by on the way to the park . Yeah , yeah , yeah , okay , yeah , I know , okay , this is weird . Exclusives mountain dew flavors . Okay , okay , meaning it's exclusive to one location right what location do you think the Mountain Dew Maui Burst , what store or restaurant do you think it is exclusively sold in ?
Speaker 1Is it Walmart , dollar General , dollar General ? So we could go to Dollar General right now and get a Maui blast .
Speaker 2Yep , okay , and how about this one Mountain Dew Sweet Lightning ?
Speaker 1Heat Lightning . That was KFC , wasn't it ? That's right , KFC . We talked about that last week .
Speaker 2Okay , mountain Dew Berry , monsoon Berry , oh no .
Speaker 1Monsoon .
Speaker 2It's not out anymore . It was 2018 to 2023 .
Speaker 1And that's exclusive to a store , mm-hmm , like Circle K or something like that . Sam's Club , sam's Club Jeez .
Speaker 2And then , okay , the Mountain Dew Frostbite I guess that was the one I was talking about , Frostbite and Mountain Dew Dragonfruit . They're both exclusive to Walmart Mountain Dew Southern Shock .
Speaker 1Oh , no Bojangles . Why are these names like actual ? They sound like actual threats now .
Speaker 2Yeah , dugarita ,
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Speaker 2dugarita , a pun on margarita Dugarita . Oh , this is a mess , this is weird , this doesn't even play well . Dugarita , kind of a play on word for margarita sold exclusively at Red Lobster .
Speaker 1Ugh , why would you want like , yeah , let me get a cup of caviar , some Cheddar Bay biscuits and let me get that Nougarita , Nougarita , real quick . This is a picture of the Voodoo Donuts .
Speaker 2Yeah , those look good , dude . Yeah , they were good . Yeah , I mean I didn . Yeah , they were good . Yeah , I mean I didn't have any problem with the Lard Lad donuts . They were pretty good , mm-hmm . But when we went , there was we did all of our park days and then we had an extra day for Universal , and so me , my wife and our two youngers , dash and park ranger , went and did a universal day . Nobody else , everyone else wanted to stay at the house , but we went back and so we went a little slower and kind of just hit the things that we really wanted to do and just hung out for the day . But uh , yeah , that's when we got the donuts and , like we went and did the animal show . I don't know if you've ever done that before the animal actors .
Speaker 1Yeah , I don't know if they still do that or not , but I think I did it a long .
Speaker 2They did it last year when we were there at the end of the year we need to do another universal episode because I'm going in September .
Speaker 1Ooh , no , I'm saying so I can come back . Oh yeah , yeah , we're going to the new park .
Speaker 2That's there , epic Universe .
Speaker 1Okay , all right , so we can do a little episode on Universal again . All right , I'm for it . Cool . Do you have anything else to say about the Dutastrophes .
Speaker 2No other than we'll just keep an eye on it . You know there , no other than we'll just keep an eye on it . You know there's nothing else to say to keep on listening for your update on the dootastrophes . Yeah , if it . I mean we're we . We're doing it in a casual , joking way , but some people are taking it like serious . They're like mountain dew is tapped in somehow and they're , they're , they're leaving the info out there for us .
Speaker 1Yeah , and so it's like it is Again . It sounds silly , but it is an interesting . You gave enough that you piqued my interest .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , it is interesting how many correlate . Yeah , and to me this is the selling point is that it's not every single flavor , it's every single flavor that is heavily promoted . So that's the other big thing , but all right . Well , that's all I got on this episode of the Saints to Serve , podcast episode 43 . We love you guys . Thank you so much for joining us and you know what Everyone in India listening we love you , that's right .
Speaker 1And China , and China . And a little question to pose to you as we close out this episode what was your favorite childhood board game ? Yeah , let us know in the comments . So there you go .
Speaker 2There you go , christ is Lord .
Speaker 1And the kingdom is now . We are the saints that serve . Can you plug that in for me ?
Speaker 2yeah , oh , yeah , yeah yeah , that's for a good cause . What cause fun , it's just fun yeah .
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