Speaker 2: 0:02

Welcome to the Saints that Serve, podcast where, each week, your hosts dive into the crossroads of faith, culture and the unknown.

Speaker 1: 0:14

Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now. We are the Saints that Serve. Hey everybody, welcome to the Saints that Serve Podcast. I'm your host, jairus, and with me is my co-host, nani, and this is episode 41.

Speaker 2: 0:56

Dude amazing, amazing, did it, yep we?

Speaker 1: 1:05

are officially 41.

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I was going to say eight years older than Jesus Christ when he went to the cross, but then I was like maybe I shouldn't say Maybe we shouldn't compare ourselves to Jesus and his miraculous feet.

Speaker 1: 1:17

The Bible tells us to compare ourselves to Jesus all the time, but not to claim to be Jesus.

Speaker 2: 1:24

I didn't say be like Jesus. I didn't say be like Jesus. I didn't say we were Jesus. I said we're. You know what? You're right, thank you. We should not claim to be Jesus. You're right.

Speaker 1: 1:34

Yes, don't defend that. I'm Wait, I'm kidding.

Speaker 2: 1:38

I'm kidding, oh man, so dude. Do we got any announcements for episode 41?

Speaker 1: 1:46

Only that we have 40 episodes of content that you can go back and re-listen to. Plus bonus content. Plus bonus content I believe it's 52 pieces of content we have put out.

Speaker 2: 2:07

And if you go to YouTube, there are several live streams that you can't find. I don't think you can find them on the general podcast apps.

Speaker 1: 2:11

No, it's only on YouTube.

Speaker 2: 2:12

Only on YouTube. So make sure you go and check out our YouTube channel to get those live stream recordings. Yeah, yeah, and on that note, we are not doing a live stream worship night on the 4th of July.

Speaker 1: 2:28

That's right. We don't want to compete with the fire in the sky, that's right.

Speaker 2: 2:32

Fire in the sky. So it will be. The 11th of July is when the live stream worship is happening.

Speaker 1: 2:40

The truth be told, we're going to spend time with our friends and family. Yeah, and secondary. We don't want spend time with our friends and family.

Speaker 2: 2:44

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:45

And secondary. We don't want to compete with the fire in the sky, the colorful fire in the sky, that's right.

Speaker 2: 2:51

I mean this doesn't really apply to all of our global listeners, but for all of our American listeners. We will not be recording on the 4th of July.

Speaker 1: 3:02

4th of July 4th of July and if you don't know what that is, listen in right now and Johnny's going to tell you what the 4th of July is. I was like I was doing in my mind like will it fall on or around that we could do an episode on the 4th of July.

Speaker 2: 3:19

I watched a video today of this. It's a Christian like, I guess, tiktoker or Instagram or guy. She today of this. It's a christian like, I guess, tiktoker or instagram or guy. He just posts his christian content but he was making a mock video talking about how the fourth of july is a pagan holiday and then he just gives a bunch of random connections to why it's the worship of satan and he's like so if you're a christian and you're celebrating the fourth of july, how?

Speaker 1: 3:45

dare you?

Speaker 2: 3:46

you know what guys in the comments, let us know if you want a fourth of july episode, and we'll connect to it, of how it's pagan mystic mysticism, no, but uh, yeah, it was funny because I mean, when we talk about the different holidays, every time that we get into them it's like the progression is Maybe at some point it was paganistic.

Speaker 2: 4:12

Well, there's a correlating pagan holiday that happens at that time, and then Christianity comes into the world. They're still celebrating because of the changing of the season or what have you, but they make it about christianity. And then, when we get into the consumerism, materialistic western societies, it becomes something totally different, that deviates from acknowledging the christian faith and just becomes a materialistic thing, you know. So it's like I mean, that's what I mean. Christmas and halloween, that's the biggest battle is. It's not about, like, the worship of satan, it's about the things that people are buying because it makes them feel good. You know. It's like, well, you're kind of deviating from what the holiday's about. You know like there is some spiritual truth to it for the Christians, and then you know other people will say no, it's pagan.

Speaker 2: 5:08

But, really most people. They're celebrating it for the materialism. Yeah, and it's like come on, just like Fourth of July. I mean, how many people are like, yay, I am so glad that we declared independence from the United Kingdom?

Speaker 1: 5:27

Right? No, at least everybody is. Let's go buy those fireworks. Let's go watch the fireworks and eat a really good hot dog.

Speaker 2: 5:31

Let's wear some red, white and blue, maybe eat some ice cream and a hot dog and watch some fire in the sky what's that it?

Speaker 1: 5:43

I'm trying to. I hear it all the time. It's like you look like the 4th of July. It makes me want to eat a hot dog. Real bad, I have no idea. It's a quote from a movie and I don't know. I hear it all the time but I don't know what movie it's from.

Speaker 2: 5:57

Yeah, I couldn't tell you, I've never heard that before.

Speaker 1: 6:07

It's like a woman and she sounds like owen wilson. Wow, isn't that the? It's the same woman from what we're about to talk about.

Speaker 2: 6:10

We're talking okay, okay, that's what I was about to say that's a great segue, that's so funny that I knew exactly who you're talking about, right when you said it sounds like the female own wilson oh my gosh. Well, those are the announcements. Make sure you're following us on YouTube.

Speaker 1: 6:27

Actually real quick. Every Friday we pray for you.

Speaker 2: 6:30

You're right, yeah, so there you go. Now. That's all of our announcements.

Speaker 1: 6:33

Now, that's all our announcements.

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If you need prayer for anything, you can reach out to us. We have an email that you can reach out to us at it's saintsthat Serve at gmailcom, or it's saintsthatserveatgmailcom. Or you can message us through any of our socials, or there's a direct messaging link at the bottom of the show description.

Speaker 1: 6:52

And that's if you want to keep your prayer requests private. We don't call them out. We actually just sit down and personally pray for you in that moment on Friday. Correctamundo it's never brought up on the show unless, I guess, if you specifically want us to call it out, but we don't typically do that. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 7:12

So reach out to us if you need prayer. Worship night is on July 11th. It's going to be huge. It's going to be huge and make sure you're subscribed to us and following on YouTube.

Speaker 1: 7:25

And specifically Facebook, so that we can then stream the Worship Night live streams.

Speaker 2: 7:31

Yeah, I mean, yes, I'm not trying to say like, don't do that, but I also don't have a big Commitment to it because I feel like Facebook is dying.

Speaker 1: 7:44

Hey, we're going to use it until it's dead. There we go, okay. Yeah, use every source for the glory of God, that's right.

Speaker 2: 7:54

Good job, juris, there we go, all right. Well, you ready to do what we've been promising to do for weeks now?

Speaker 1: 8:01

I feel like it's been more than weeks, I think it's been months, because we were promising before the movie came out. Yeah, and then the movie came out, and we had to wait until almost the movie, until, like the last day, the movie was showing. Yeah, the movie is now out of theaters, it's on streaming services, mm-hmm. And here we are. And now, finally, here we are. And now, finally, here we are doing our in-episode mini-review.

Speaker 2: 8:26

Yeah, so we have two topics tonight, and the first one, tyler. This is your transition. We are moving into our review of the Minecraft movie.

Speaker 1: 8:39

Jeep, grand Cherokee so funny.

Speaker 2: 8:43

Oh, are you going to sue me? Everyone tries to sue me when I hit them with my Jeep Grand Cherokee so funny. Oh, are you gonna sue me? Everyone tries to sue me when I hit them with my Jeep.

Speaker 1: 8:50

Grand Cherokee Linda.

Speaker 2: 8:52

Can I take you to dinner?

Speaker 1: 8:55

Linda, the moment you hit me with your Jeep Grand Cherokee I knew you were the one for me last night.

Speaker 2: 9:06

Last night, when you hit me with your Jeep Grand Cherokee I knew I was in love with you we're talking about the Minecraft movie. Minecraft for those who didn't catch the Jeep Grand Cherokee yeah, the Jeep Grand Cherokee reference self done.

Speaker 1: 9:23

Oh my gosh, like seriously. Probably some of my favorite parts of the movie were not the minecraft portions of the movies, it was the real world interactions between female owen wilson and the villager. That's so funny, dude. Not saying that the rest of the movie wasn't good or funny.

Speaker 2: 9:43

Yeah, that just was so much funnier to me and for those who have no idea who we're talking about, her name is jennifer coolidge jennifer coolidge I think she's on the. She's doing a lot of uh, I think it's capital one commercials. Yeah, she's just she's doing a credit card commercial. So it's like she's in this movie out of nowhere and you're like oh, okay, because she's like a school worker, right, like a teacher.

Speaker 1: 10:11

She's the principal school principal, that's right. Yeah, I don't know if y'all can tell it's been a couple months since we've seen this movie yeah, so let's you know what let's get into the uh overview.

Speaker 2: 10:22

let's just give the overview for the movie Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1: 10:26

So Jack Black as Steve, steve, and he wants to be a miner, right, is that what it was? He wanted to go into the mines. He wants to go into the mines for adventure, but he was too young. Because he was a miner, because he was a child, yep.

Speaker 2: 10:44

So if you look it up on the internet, it says four misfits are suddenly pulled through a mysterious portal into a bizarre cubic wonderland that thrives on the imagination. To get back home, they'll have to master this world while embarking on a quest with an unexpected expert crafter. It's not unexpected, no, we knew who he was From the very beginning. It's very obvious that Steve Jack Black's character is a master crafter, is a master crafter and also he's going to be the way that the other characters get home Real quick.

Speaker 1: 11:21

this is probably going to be a spoiler-filled review of the movie.

Speaker 2: 11:26

Yeah, I mean, if you haven't seen it yet, that's on you, it's not on us. You've had plenty of time.

Speaker 1: 11:31

Yeah, it's been two months.

Speaker 2: 11:32

So I will say that I was surprised, because a lot of the characters are newer. When you see all the commercials and stuff, it's the faces you recognize are jason momoa and jack black. But there were several people that you're like, oh, I didn't know that they were in this, right you know. So like, uh, jermaine clement. He's in it for like 30 seconds. He does the. He's the auctioneer at the beginning of the movie.

Speaker 1: 12:04

Auctioneer at the beginning of the movie. Yeah, that's right Whenever? Yeah, at the storage unit.

Speaker 2: 12:10

Yeah, he's like you don't understand storage unit people and also Matt Berry had a voice cameo at the very end. Oh, he's the villager it's like wait what he has an iconic voice.

Speaker 1: 12:30

You know who he is let's see, there was more than that. Jennifer coolidge too, like you know, yeah, but she wasn't like a cameo, she was like a character she was a character throughout it. I thought I had on my notes other cameos, but I guess I don't do. You know, uh, kate mckinnon, matt berry and jermaine clement.

Speaker 2: 12:51

Okay, kate mckinnon is alex, so like.

Speaker 1: 12:56

So you. She is, but you don't even see her face right but you hear her voice and I guess it's a cameo to imply that she's going to play that character, yeah, in the sequel which they're going to make a sequel, come on, are you sure they are dude? Okay, how much do you think this movie made?

Speaker 2: 13:16

I bet you have it in front of you, don't?

Speaker 1: 13:22

know it is the second highest grossing video game movie ever. Really, $954 million, wow, they're making a sequel.

Speaker 2: 13:33

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 13:35

What's number one? What do you think number one is? If you had to guess.

Speaker 2: 13:39

A video game.

Speaker 1: 13:41

You're going to be mad when I tell you if you don't get it. I feel like it's something silly, like maybe sonic no, okay, it is illumination's super mario brothers movie oh yeah, I should have known.

Speaker 2: 13:56

Yeah, exactly about that. When we're talking about fantasy, about how it it's in the top ten.

Speaker 1: 14:02

Yeah, it's considered a fantasy movie.

Speaker 2: 14:05

Unreal. So anyways, yeah, we got old Jack Black as Steve in this movie.

Speaker 1: 14:11

So he wants to be an adventurer, go into the mines and just explore and be creative. Yeah, that's the big thing, that's a huge theme on this movie is creativity.

Speaker 2: 14:22

Yeah, he doesn't want to. That's a huge theme on this movie is creativity. Yeah, he doesn't want to. He's tired of the mundane, judgy, stereotyping world and he wants adventure and freedom of creativity. And he finds it by going through a portal into the overworld in Minecraft. Right.

Speaker 1: 14:47

And then when he's there, he's stuff, he's living there, he's having a great time building all this grand stuff like you do in minecraft, yeah, and then he finds some obsidian.

Speaker 2: 14:56

I mean, yeah, I mean that's, that's the entire thing. Like, yeah, he finds a chest with a ruin. He finds a ruin, there's a chest conveniently next to it, it has the one missing block, which is like funny enough.

Speaker 1: 15:08

In Minecraft, the beginner like it's like the shortcut thing that they'll give you if you choose for, like the head start to your world. They kind of put some of the pieces of the stuff you need to go to the nether in the game and that's what he finds is like the shortcut yeah, yeah, it was interesting how they pick and choose, like what they put in the movie.

Speaker 2: 15:32

As far as updates to the game, yeah, so, like some things are very like old school minecraft and then it's kind of littered with newer stuff from different updates.

Speaker 1: 15:45

But it's not all. I would say, just because of how vast Minecraft is, I was surprised how little they actually put into this movie. Yeah, like they don't like we talk about I think me and you have talked about it a lot but it's like they put like in the game. There's like a battle arena and mansions. They do have the mansion in the movie, but there's the wither and then you said what else is there? The end.

Speaker 2: 16:11

The end, yeah, with the ender dragon. I mean, when they go to the nether they only touch on hoglins, which are newer, and then if they come into contact with sunlight, they become piglins, which are original, right, you know, and so those are, and then they've got ghasts, and those are kind of the two-ish, three-ish things from the nether, but the nether has so much, so much more in it. I think that this movie and the highest they have is diamond. So no netherite in the movie, right right.

Speaker 1: 16:44

I think that they probably only scratched maybe five percent of minecraft lore in this movie, so there's so much more that they can do with this franchise yeah, well, easily.

Speaker 2: 16:56

Yeah, yeah, they definitely could go a lot farther. But I think that they also pulled a little bit from Minecraft Adventures, because the idea of Malgosia, like a sorceress that's the, the main villain Mm-hmm, like that's straight up from Adventure, yeah, minecraft Adventure, or the concept of that, you know, like mini bosses, mm-hmm, because in the original Minecraft you've got different bosses I do air quotes for that. You can go and fight them, but it's not required, you know. So you've got the ender dragon, you've got the wither, you've got the warden, you've got the Ancient Guardian, and then there's one other one that's not big, but those are kind of the main bosses you can go fight. Yeah, but when we were playing Minecraft, what was it called? Bedrock?

Speaker 2: 17:58

No, no, no no no, I thought you meant what edition was it? The team you run through different levels and fight. Oh, minecraft Dungeons, minecraft Dungeons, thank you. Yeah, the idea of like a sorceress witch, like Hoglin, that would be more so along those lines Minecraft Dungeons.

Speaker 1: 18:20

But there's so much they can do. Yeah, yeah, a lot. So Steve is now living in the Minecraft world and then he accidentally opens a portal to the nether, which is where the evil sorceress lives with all her pig underlings. Yeah, and so she wants to go to the overworld. Yes, and so a key character go to the overworld. Yes, and so a key character we left out, dennis Dennis. Dennis is Jack Black's dog and essentially Jack Black closes the portal and then sends. It didn't make sense how he didn't close the portal.

Speaker 2: 19:03

He sent Dennis with the cube no the nether portal. Yeah, he didn't close. Sense how he didn't close the portal. He sent Dennis with the cube no the nether portal. Yeah, he didn't close it. No, Because they run out of it after Dennis and they start getting turned.

Speaker 1: 19:12

That's right, that was why they didn't want to.

Speaker 2: 19:15

Yeah, they start turning into pigmen Right, or they start getting zombified, as they say in the movie.

Speaker 1: 19:21

Mm-hmm. But he runs all the way through to the normal world normal, which the reason why jack black ends up in minecraft is he finds like this uh thing, right, it was like this artifact, yeah, that when he put the two pieces together, opened up a portal to minecraft.

Speaker 2: 19:38

I love how your first description is like he finds this thing like how else would you describe it? Yeah, well, I mean in the, in the movie they call it an orb. An orb, but it was square. It's a cube. There's a cube. He's like where I'm from. This is a cube, but he's the round one, he's the round one because everything squares guys.

Speaker 1: 20:04

So dennis brings the orb to the real world.

Speaker 2: 20:10

Yep, and then time passes yeah, he like throws it underneath steve's bed in his real world house and in doing that the two pieces separate. There's two pieces there's a crystal and then there's the orb, and when you put the the orb inside the crystal, it opens, turns on the portal.

Speaker 2: 20:31

Yeah, and you can go through to the overworld of minecraft, but when you separate the two pieces then the portals shut, shut off and you can't go over, right? So when he brings it over, the two pieces get separated, the portal closes and then there's no way to to get it for the villain malgosia right.

Speaker 1: 20:53

Then enters our four main characters besides jack black, yeah, I mean our lovable characters. We can get into deep detail about how they end up in the overworld, but through one way or another they find the orb, they put it together and the four main characters go into Minecraft.

Speaker 2: 21:14

Can I just say the main reason that they end up in the overworld is because Garrett the Garbage man, garrison, really needs money. Yeah right, that's ultimately the driving point. Jason Momoa's character, jason Momoa's character his life's falling apart and he needs cash. And there's a note with the cube that says by no means put the crystalline cube together to come through the portal to the overworld. It's too dangerous, even for all the treasure. That's yeah it was hilarious brings up that there's a bunch of treasure and stuff and he's like, oh, maybe we should yeah, check it out.

Speaker 2: 21:56

But yeah, that's ultimately why they end up there. I also like in the movie this is a funny little side note how every 12 minutes it becomes night. Yeah, like that's so funny. Just like the game. Just like the game. But like when you really Like in the movie this is a funny little side note how every 12 minutes it becomes night. Yeah, like that's so funny. Just like the game. Just like the game.

Speaker 1: 22:14

But like when you really think about the concept, like if we in reality went into Minecraft just every 12 minutes, it would be night. Sun's gone, which would be absolute nightmare.

Speaker 2: 22:20

Yeah, all these monsters come out of nowhere. They all want to kill you, yeah.

Speaker 1: 22:26

It's funny. So they uh go into minecraft. They end up. I don't remember how did steve get out of being captured, that's right. Um, what's her face? Center malgosia. Malgosia sent steve up to the overworld to get the orb right Orb of Dominance.

Speaker 2: 22:46

In exchange she convinces him that she has Dennis the dog.

Speaker 1: 22:51

But Dennis, it was in the real world.

Speaker 2: 22:53

Yeah, but yeah, steve didn't know that Dennis was in the real world and so he, uh, she's like, if you want your dog back, you gotta go get me the orb of Dominance. So she sends him back. And then he's like, if you want your dog back, you got to go get me the orb of dominance. So she sends him back. And then he's like I'm not going to give it back to her, but I needed his leverage to get Dennis back.

Speaker 1: 23:15

And so the main characters have it, and so they are arguing over it and they break it. The crystal part, the crystal part, not the other part.

Speaker 2: 23:28

Well, I, I don't even think that. Uh no, I I think it. They don't necessarily break it. I think it gets broken and the and the little kerfuffle with the different monsters the very first night there, right so they have to then team up to go find another one which is in a mansion.

Speaker 1: 23:48

Yes, an abandoned mansion, not an abandoned mansion. A woodland man, sorry, a woodland mansion. Yeah and uh. This is where the infamous riot scene happens right, let's start right that is the chicken jockey scene.

Speaker 2: 24:10

Oh, okay, all right, I was.

Speaker 1: 24:12

I was trying to think like what are you talking about? A riot? In the movie no, this movie caused, caused riots in the theaters I don't know why. I have idea why. This is the reason why we waited so long to watch it. Yeah, because we didn't want to go and be there with a bunch of kids causing a huge kerfuffle.

Speaker 2: 24:32

Yeah, people setting off fireworks and throwing raw fish at people.

Speaker 1: 24:36

Whatever they had their hands popcorn chairs, whatever. It was ridiculous, ridiculous. So when we went, the scene happens where a chicken jockey shows up, which is a chicken being ridden by a miniature zombie. Yes, and it just steve goes it's a chicken jockey, which is a.

Speaker 2: 24:59

I mean like that's not what they're called in the actual coding for the game. That's like a fan thing, right.

Speaker 1: 25:05

Yeah, I think so. Just a jockey Maybe, and for some reason in the movie itself it's not that big of a hype moment, but for some reason everybody decided that was the moment. They wanted a riot in the theaters. Yeah, that was the big thing.

Speaker 2: 25:18

They're like oh, this is the whole reason. I came to see the Marbury and it's not that big of a deal. But I guess that's just a disconnect for us from what gets people going, right, you know it gets the people going. Yeah, okay, I do have to make a shout out, though, that in the movie they do a nod to hero brian, or no? Not hero brian no, techno blade.

Speaker 1: 25:49

Techno blade, which was the guy who unfortunately passed away.

Speaker 2: 25:55

Yeah, he was a famous minecraft youtuber who passed away. They they gave a shout out to his skin, so Character skin.

Speaker 1: 26:05

Yeah, his character skin is a pig wearing a crown and in the movie a pig walks by wearing a crown and one of the characters asks Steve, like who is that? And he says a legend.

Speaker 2: 26:21

Yo, I'm reading these Easter eggs, eggs and I did not realize this. But in the movie, because I said hero brian, can you see here, brian, in the background at some point? Because when there's the hallucin and jace, the hallucination, and with the enderman, uh-huh, that scene, you know how it shows all the different characters and they're talking about how upset they are with him or how awful he is or whatever. Mm-hmm, all the characters have purple eyes like an Enderman, except for, except for.

Speaker 1: 26:51

Steve, because here Brian is just the Steve skin with white eyes.

Speaker 2: 26:56

So when Steve pops up to do his like you're awful it's white eyes instead of purple. Mm Crazy, that's cool instead of purple Crazy.

Speaker 1: 27:06

I love it when movies do stuff like that. Yeah, because I wouldn't have made that connection because it is Steve with white eyes.

Speaker 2: 27:12

Yep, I'm just looking at a couple of these things Water bucket clutch, they do do that when they're falling and then they use water to cushion their fall, to cushion their fall. Yep yeah.

Speaker 1: 27:27

So from the mansion, right? Yes, they get the crystal, and by that point you're going to have to say the witch's name again, the sorceress Malgosia. Malgosia has found a way to get. No, doesn't she get the crystal, and that's how she's able to invade the overworld.

Speaker 2: 27:48

She gets the orb of dominance. She gets the orb of dominance?

Speaker 1: 27:51

Yes, and so they are then attempting to invade the real world.

Speaker 2: 27:56

So they're trying to no, they're trying to come into the overworld to strip it of its gold. So it's going to turn into the nether in their quest to get all the gold out of it.

Speaker 1: 28:07

So what was their? That's right. They were using the orb to then block out the sun. That's right. That was their main goal. So they end up fighting, and we're being very vague because it's still though we're talking about the movie. It's still worth watching, if you haven't seen it yet. So they get it. They beat Malgosia the end. Yeah, I mean, that's a good summary of it.

Speaker 2: 28:32

Well, I like what they did, where at the end it's like they're like okay, let's all go back to the real world and take what we've learned and apply it to our lives there and improve our lives in reality, because everybody in all the main characters we kind of glossed over it, but all have issues like they actually have real human problems.

Speaker 1: 28:56

Yeah, like you said, jason momoa's character is like about to lose his business and he has no money and he's trying to.

Speaker 2: 29:03

He's very, uh, self-centered and he's like I want he's there for the money and he, I mean I think that it's less he's self-centered and more of he puts up a front to be tough in his mind. What, what is a macho man? That's what he's trying to portray. I don't think it's necessarily that he's just. I mean, yeah, he's not, he can't read a room, but he, you know, he is somewhat considerate of other people. It just not very good at it.

Speaker 1: 29:35

Yeah, the young man is very creative, but he has no real outlet for his creativity. He has no friends. He has no friends, has no real outlet for his creativity, he has no friends, he has no friends. And his sister, who is an adult, who looks like she's younger than the actress, looks younger than the boy. Yeah, looks like a two-year difference, but she's supposed to be 23, 24 in the movie or something like that.

Speaker 2: 29:58

Yeah, it was crazy. She's trying to keep their family together. Their mom passed away, so she's trying to step into a role of being a mother and a sister.

Speaker 1: 30:11

Then there is the Dawn. Dawn, I can't remember A real estate agent.

Speaker 2: 30:16

She's a real estate agent and she runs a petting zoo.

Speaker 1: 30:20

And she learns that she can have a great petting zoo. Well, I think that. I think that her character, though, was there. I feel like they inserted her character for more comic relief than actual real development, because I feel like her character got the least amount of development comparatively.

Speaker 2: 30:40

Yeah, but I think it's more. I think that she's like a Samwise Gamgee. What Samwise Gamgee is to Frodo? I think that she is to Natalie her sister. Like she's a moral support, like reminding her of what's going on, helping her grow character.

Speaker 1: 31:02

She embodies the idea of she's not really there to develop her character. She embodies the idea. She's not really there to develop her character. Like her character's not developed, she's there to help develop other characters. She doesn't have a problem but she's there. They do try to insert that. She has a problem, though, like which is I want to open a petting zoo, like full-time, or something like that.

Speaker 2: 31:20

Well, yeah, she doesn't want to do real estate anymore, but it's not like she's not confronted with the harsh reality of, like this is what's wrong with me and how do I deal with it. It's not like that. Like everyone else, right, everyone else is like. Even Steve Jack Black's character is like, I don't want to go back to the real world. It's lame there. Yeah, I want to stay here and create stuff Right there. Yeah, I want to stay here and create stuff, right, so, but yeah, so at the end of the, at the end of it, the moral is, you know, take what you've learned through your creativity of the game and apply it in the real world and and be okay with who your friends are. You know, like, be yourself, and where your friends end up coming from is where they're at, you know, and so I think that's good, especially in today, like dude, gaming has become so insane, like the different technologies that they're coming out for the internet in general, but then also in the gaming world, it's making it very easy for someone to never leave their house, and I mean, that's not how we were created.

Speaker 2: 32:30

You know, god created us to have dominion over all of creation and to take care of it. That's Genesis, chapter one, right there. And so when we neglect our responsibility to take care of the earth, as God set up for us to do that's the first commandment he gives mankind To have dominion over the earth, populate it and take care of it and when we neglect that, we're stepping outside of what our original, a part of what our original creation was To be the lords and stewards of the earth. And so, and when you step out of that role, you pass it off to somebody else. Who's that somebody else? It's the devil, you know Satan in the demonic realm. They're running the show on earth because humanity is neglecting their responsibility. And so I like that. That's what I like at the end of the movie is they bring it back to like hey, you can have fun in the real world, you can have relationships, and friendships in the real world and you don't need to hide in this fake world.

Speaker 2: 33:40

Yeah, you don't need to hide in the fantasy, where anything's possible. You can make things possible in the real world. I mean, the kid makes a jetpack in the real world.

Speaker 1: 33:51

Which is a bold statement, saying that you can be in the real world for a movie based off of a video game. Yeah, which is like their selling point of like, come play our game, but their message is you don't need to be in our fake world game, yeah, so what? What did you think of the movie?

Speaker 2: 34:10

overall, I enjoyed it. I think that they did a good job yeah, uh.

Speaker 1: 34:17

So my biggest complaint going before seeing the movie, based off the trailers what'd you like about?

Speaker 2: 34:24

what do you think of the movie? Well, it was good.

Speaker 1: 34:26

My biggest complaint is well I want to say this okay, is that it was doing in the trailer? The thing that I felt like it thought its audience was stupid so it was jack black, calling out every single thing that was happening on the screen. Yeah, I hate it when movies do that because it's over explaining and it kind of makes you feel like the creator doesn't have enough confidence in his audience for them to know what they're looking at. Yeah, so it's like, in my opinion, going in was who was this made for? Because? Is it made for the fans? Because it was? It was made for the fans, yeah. Or is it made for people trying to introduce them to minecraft, which I don't think that was the part of it?

Speaker 2: 35:09

see, I didn't interpret it that way. I know that's how you see it, but in my especially watching the movie oh, that's my.

Speaker 1: 35:16

That was my point I was going to get into okay, go ahead. That doesn't exist. That's not a problem at all. In the actual movie it's like every moment in the trail where he calls something out was pretty much spread perfectly throughout the movie. It's just.

Speaker 2: 35:27

It was annoying when it happened back to back to back in the trailer yeah, it's kind of like a call out, like, look what we've got in the movie, yeah, for the commercials, but yeah, in the movie. Every time that happens to me it's a it's a veteran player giving a quick rundown of the game to a new player and rather than them, because in Minecraft he was explaining it to the people there, not to the audience.

Speaker 2: 35:52

Yeah, and the original way that Minecraft was set up. The essence of the game is you have no idea what is going on. You literally figure everything out on your own.

Speaker 1: 36:02

They added it in later that you could figure out like you had like all the recipes and just had to find everything. Before it was like nothing. You just like figure it out and everything was figured out through community.

Speaker 2: 36:14

Yeah. So, like in the original game, you didn't know how to make a pickaxe, you just had to get random materials and start placing things in your crafting bench and hopefully it did something.

Speaker 2: 36:24

Yeah, when you find the right schematic for the crafting bench, it will show you here's what you made. Then you can craft it. But now, yeah, they've got schematics. It's more user-friendly for a younger audience. Yeah, but yeah, in the original it was very hard to play because you had to figure it all out and that was kind of the lure of it, I guess finding out new things. Yeah, so yeah for me.

Speaker 1: 36:51

I really, really, really like the movie, yeah, but there was no snow golems in it. So zero out of zero, zero stars, no snow golems. Like seriously I was. I really, actually disappointed me about the movie because that is my favorite uh creature in minecraft. Yep, it's no golems, no snow golems at all. I don't even remember seeing any snow? Yeah, they never went anywhere with snow.

Speaker 2: 37:17

Yeah, I got really go to a snow biome.

Speaker 1: 37:18

No, I got really excited because they did like a pan and they showed a snowball biome. Yeah, but they never went there. Yeah, they never went there. So it's fine, it's mostly a joke, but it's like y'all better put a snow golem in the sequel.

Speaker 2: 37:30

Yeah, I think it's funny, though, at the beginning of the movie, how one of the first builds that Jack Black's character, steve, does is a wool house made out of pink wool, which is like the hardest sheep to find, right, the pink sheep. Well, he probably dyed it. Well, no, I mean, that's just it. They suggest that because there's a pink sheep right at the portal, that he made an entire house out of wool. From the sheep, from the sheep.

Speaker 1: 37:59

Yeah, that's funny and it's like what I wanted to say real quick. This movie was made by the same guy who made Napoleon Bonham, not made by the same guy who made Nacho Libre, and just like those two movies, this movie is incredibly quotable. It is yeah.

Speaker 2: 38:16

Jared Hess. Jared Hess, he also brings tots into the movie.

Speaker 1: 38:20

Yeah he does, which is funny because I don't know if he actually did. I was thinking is that a thing he does for all his movies? I don't remember if there was any tots or not in Nacho Libre. No, there's no tots in Nacho Libre, so it was a callback to Napoleon Dynamite then, because it was a tot shooting gun right Like it was a little blaster that shot tots.

Speaker 2: 38:42

Well, yeah, in the beginning she makes him a tater tot pizza that's right To take to school. His sister makes the main character a tater tot pizza to take to school and he's like taking it with him and he stops at that's where he meets Jason Momoa.

Speaker 1: 38:59

He stops into Jason Momoa's store.

Speaker 2: 39:02

And he's like and Jason Momoa. He stops into Jason Momoa's store and he's like and Jason Momoa's character's like taking a Todd pizza to school. Lame.

Speaker 1: 39:08

You can just leave it here with me. Yeah, he starts eating it.

Speaker 2: 39:11

But yeah, it's some of the leftover tater tots from that is what he has in his pocket conveniently and he makes a tot gun, which you can't make in the Minecraft.

Speaker 1: 39:23

That was like there was a few like Minecraft game breaking moments Like where, like you wouldn't have done this in the game yeah, you can't, but it's still fun Like I get. Maybe that's a call out to mods, possibly.

Speaker 2: 39:35

Maybe Because another thing that I'm pretty confident in is the shoes of swiftness. When they put it on the iron golem. You can't do that. Make it fast.

Speaker 1: 39:44

You can't do that in the game so it'd be great if they added these things in after the fact yeah, which I do want to.

Speaker 2: 39:52

I do want to say jared has did a good job like yeah for sure, actually connecting with the audience by throwing in a ton of minecraft stuff. You know what I mean. Like some, some movies today that are based off of other things. They have like minor things that link it to the original source material, but it's its own thing it is the source material, mostly in name.

Speaker 1: 40:19

a lot of times, yeah, and it really doesn't actually follow that. Monster Hunter did that, resident Evil did that. There's several video game movies where they're just like how do we do this? You know and they don't know, but you can tell Jared Hess was a Minecraft fan. These movies, when they are based off of something, are always the best. When somebody who knows the source material and is a fan of the source material is adapting it yep, so do you want to guess what the rotten tomatoes rating is? It's high, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 40:54

it's like um 85 yeah, popcorn meter is 85, but tomato meter is.

Speaker 1: 41:03

It's like a 48 is yeah, it's low on well tomato okay. So what we're talking about is the critics scored it a 48, audience the fans scored it an 85.

Speaker 2: 41:14

I want to know who these critics are, because they get so much wrong. Yeah, so many movies wrong.

Speaker 1: 41:23

I go and I like to look at scores, but I will reference critics but always gauge the audience yeah. That's always your best bet, whether or not you're going to enjoy it. Like if you're looking at a Marvel movie, critics are watching a Marvel movie to make money. Audiences are watching a Marvel movie because they're fans.

Speaker 2: 41:45

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 41:46

At the end of the day, you are the. What matters is the fans watching the movie. Yeah, so obviously a critic is not going to understand all the deep references that Jared Hess put into this movie and the nostalgia you actually feel from watching it yeah, so your favorite mob did not make it into this movie and the nostalgia you actually feel from watching it.

Speaker 2: 42:02

Yeah, so your favorite mob did not make it into the movie. But what was your favorite mob that was in the movie.

Speaker 1: 42:11

So before I really became a fan of Snow Golems, I was actually a pretty good fan of Creepers. Okay, I actually really liked Creepers. Yeah, and I will say for being the face of Minecraft, they weren't really in the movie as much Like as an enemy. They just kind of showed up as almost a gag a couple of times. Yeah, like the time. Whenever was it Jason Momoa's character? I think he was at night in the woods and then just the Creeper kind of sneaks up on him, blows up. That was like a good introduction. And then they go through that cave full of Creepers, his Creeper farm.

Speaker 2: 42:50

That's right. He had a Creeper farm. Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, so they blow up all the Creepers in his Creeper farm? Yeah.

Speaker 1: 42:57

Which I mean it was great yeah, which I mean it was great, yeah, it was great.

Speaker 2: 43:02

I just feel like that the Creeper was underutilized, yeah, I just don't know how they could have used more of it for the story. Sure, sure.

Speaker 1: 43:10

Because I guess, just from that point of view, it's just another mob, A small thing to get in their way when the main characters are trying to reach their goal.

Speaker 2: 43:22

Yeah, have you heard any of the like fan fiction behind the creeper? As far as, like, what the anatomy is?

Speaker 2: 43:32

no, the religion practiced in minecraft, no world no because if you go to the desert biomes with the temples, the creeper is the image that's on the temples, the creeper face so, and it pops up in different places, but the creeper face is like in all these ancient ruins. In the game. I do air quotes yeah, it's the creeper face that's on all these ancient architectural ruins and so they they allege that the creature, the creeper, was worshipped by this ancient civilization that no longer exists. That's in the game. So when you stumble across these different caches, like a desert temple or a jungle temple or even the temples in the ocean that they were actually set up.

Speaker 1: 44:21

So you think that these ancient people?

Speaker 2: 44:24

worshipped creepers. That's what. That's what the fan fiction's alleging, because there's a depiction of creepers on it I could see the evidence there yeah.

Speaker 2: 44:33

So I mean, it's a fun little thing. It just adds to the lore of the game. It's like in in the real world. Here we see something from antiquity and all we can do is speculate. You know, like we can't. We weren't there, so we can't really without a shadow of a doubt say like this is how it is. All we have is whatever supporting evidence we can find to cross reference and then speculation you know, so all right, that's all I've got for Minecraft. I got one more thing.

Speaker 1: 45:00

All right, that's all I've got for Minecraft. I got one more thing. Okay, oh no, you've defeated me, knife.

Speaker 2: 45:04

Come here. I've got to tell you something. Do you have a knife that you're going to pull out and stab me? No, I'm too weak.

Speaker 1: 45:15

Knife. Oh, you stopped me but for real.

Speaker 2: 45:20

Come here and let me tell you a secret.

Speaker 1: 45:22

Another knife, you are the worst. That was probably the part that, besides the jeep, grand cherokee which is what made me laugh was her pretending to be dying and do like she kept pulling out knives, like you think it's gonna be a reconciling moment for the villain, and it's not. She's just she's just bad, like she's just literally the worst and he just like there's like three moments of where she tries to stab him with three different knives and he finally just like I'm gonna have to walk away.

Speaker 2: 45:49

Yeah, it's funny uh, yeah, go now. Dennis changed on Duns, live Dennis.

Speaker 1: 46:00

La, la, la lava. Ch-ch-ch-chicken Okay.

Speaker 2: 46:04

The boys were going around singing that after we watched the movie for a couple of days and they were singing it so much, we went to a family get-together with all the cousins Uh-huh, and they instigated all the cousins to sing it with them. And all the cousins haven't seen the movie, so they have no context for what's going on.

Speaker 1: 46:23

So they're all just running around. Lava chicken, lava chicken lava chicken.

Speaker 2: 46:26

Yeah, they're all going around, going la la la lava chicken oh, steve's lava chicken oh, mama see the lava steve, lava chicken.

Speaker 1: 46:37

I don't know, you know that that song was like considered to be a hit, like a top 100 hit for a little while, and that's because it's because, okay, jack black now has got his groove perfectly in sync with his audience, where all jack black has to do is sing a little bit in a movie and it's going to become a hit yeah, yeah, especially in a children's movie.

Speaker 2: 47:02

Yeah, ironically, mario brothers has a hit as the villain, yep. And then minecraft, the second highest grossing video game movie. He has another hit with lava chicken hero as lava chicken, which what's the name? It's peaches, peaches, peaches from Mario Brothers, peaches from Mario Brothers, yeah. And then Lava Chicken from Minecraft, which both songs are only like 30 seconds long.

Speaker 1: 47:29

Peaches is a little bit more of a real song, lava Chicken's more like to me a jingle.

Speaker 2: 47:35

Yeah, truly a jingle. It would be funny if he came out with a full song, full version.

Speaker 1: 47:40

Some fans have tried to like put a full version together. Yeah, it's still only like a minute or so, minute 15, because a lot of the chicken's like maybe 20 seconds long.

Speaker 2: 47:49

Yeah, yeah, that's funny. All right, well, that's all we got, so are we ready to move on to our secondary topic, our?

Speaker 1: 47:56

second topic. We had two main topics. We had two main topics, so here's our second one. Tyler, this is your transition into I don't even think we have a title for this Actors.

Speaker 2: 48:09

Actor, our favorite actors, yeah.

Speaker 1: 48:13

In a world.

Speaker 2: 48:15

Where, where we talk about our favorite actors.

Speaker 1: 48:19

Only one podcast is doing that this week. Yeah and it's us, it's the saints that serve, serving you, a heaping helping of actors heaping, helping.

Speaker 2: 48:31

Oh my gosh geez. All right, so how do you want to do this? Do you want to do you do one and I do one, or do you want to do all yours and I'll do all?

Speaker 1: 48:39

mine, let's do a little bit back and forth, because I feel like we're going to overlap, okay? So you know, me and john were talking about like who's our, who's your favorite actor?

Speaker 2: 48:49

you know what I mean yeah john stamos, john no, uh, david hasselhoff david hasselhoff.

Speaker 1: 48:56

No, but yeah it, just it. It's like there's movies that you have that you will watch based off of it, not because of the plot or the director or anything like that it's I want to see that movie because blank is in it, you know.

Speaker 2: 49:14

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 49:15

So I feel like that happened a lot in the 90s, yeah, and it might be happened all the time. I just feel like I remember it. So, yeah, like actors who kind of inspired us a little bit, I guess, yeah, or were in our lives a little bit more than others because that, because that specific actors in the film, it gives more credibility and more desire to be like I want to go see.

Speaker 1: 49:41

Yeah, I don't know anything else about this You're not going to watch. Would you watch Mission Impossible 10 if it wasn't Tom Cruise, I mean?

Speaker 2: 49:49

I haven't watched it.

Speaker 1: 49:51

Did you watch Okay, better example Did you watch the fifth Bourne Identity? Because it was Jeremy Renner instead of Matt Damon.

Speaker 2: 50:01

No, exactly, but I didn't watch any. I mean Really, I watched the first.

Speaker 1: 50:05

Bourne movie Gotcha, that's it. They get better over time.

Speaker 2: 50:09

What you should have said is you should have done something with Lord of the Rings and Aragorn.

Speaker 1: 50:16

Well, he was unknown in that at the time.

Speaker 2: 50:19

Oh, but he did so good I'm saying, if they, they, because they are okay, so they are relaunching. They're coming out with a movie hunt for gollum and they're like, hey, vigo mortison is going to reprise aragorn, are you gonna go see it? And I was like, well, I don't know anything about the movie because it's not canon in the books or anything, but because vigo's coming back, yeah, I'm gonna go see it, you know, whereas if they're like, yeah, we're getting somebody totally new to play aragorn, you're gonna be like I don't know, I'll have to wait and see what else comes out about it to see if I'm gonna go see it, you know I know I get what you're saying, but I don't feel like it fully encompasses the fact that it's a new film with an actor you like, like a new franchise or something to that effect.

Speaker 1: 51:10

Oh dang it, it's raining, oh geez.

Speaker 2: 51:18

Can I just complain for a second?

Speaker 1: 51:20

Go ahead.

Speaker 2: 51:21

I do a lot of exterior work for my job.

Speaker 1: 51:25

And it is awful right now in Georgia.

Speaker 2: 51:28

The storms that are constantly blowing through. Okay, like in Florida, it rains almost every day and everyone's used to it. There's like an afternoon shower and everyone expects it. Right in georgia, there's rainy seasons and then there's dry seasons, but this year, I can't even remember this year where we have gone longer than a week without rain.

Speaker 1: 52:02

And it's such a weird thing to say, because it's like that you do a lot of outside work, that's how you provide for your family, but it's also like a blessing because we're not in a drought. I mean, yeah, don't get me wrong, and that's not a jab at you or anything, but it's just like I get it. It's like you need to be outside, you need to not be raining.

Speaker 2: 52:23

Yeah, dude, it's just it feeds the conspiracy theory side of me, because everyone in the conspiracy camps were talking about cloud seeding and storm control when the hurricane blew through North Carolina last year. And so here we are this year, in 2025, and just the sheer amount of storms that are constantly bombarding us. I'm like, dude, like how are it? Cause you know, there's wildfires popping up on the West side of the well. There were wildfires towards the beginning of this year popping up on the West side of our country and then they burned. I mean, los Angeles pretty much got burned to the ground at one point, and now there's all the riots and people are setting fires for the riots and stuff, and it's like it's so dry over there. Why can't some of this rain go over to the west coast and we just keep on getting bombarded with it? So I'm like, are they controlling the weather? Are they trying to make sure that rain stays away from one area and is so they're just shoving it all to another area. You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1: 53:31

That's weird and that's your mini cryptid corner yeah, the corner. Yeah, all right, let's get back into so what I was saying before we got interrupted by water from the sky. Later on next month, fire in the sky, but that's, that's different later on this month, you mean next month, that's what I said later on next month, okay.

Speaker 1: 53:52

So you compared it, that it would be another movie in that franchise with the actor reprising his character years down the line. But in this particular situation it is a new movie with an actor you are familiar with.

Speaker 2: 54:08

Okay, I'm not seeing the difference from the examples you gave and the examples.

Speaker 1: 54:14

Okay, so Tom Cruise is in a new movie you've never heard of. You're familiar with Tom Cruise. It is not a sequel, it's just a brand new movie.

Speaker 2: 54:23

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 54:24

People are going to go see that movie not for the plot, but for Tom Cruise. I keep using Tom Cruise because he's not on my list.

Speaker 2: 54:32

Yeah, yeah, because everybody loves Top Gun and everybody loves Mission Impossible.

Speaker 1: 54:37

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: 54:38

And everybody loves Tropic Thunder.

Speaker 1: 54:43

Tropic.

Speaker 2: 54:43

Thunder is a pretty funny movie. It is pretty funny and it is funny that Tom Cruise is in it and you don't realize that it's Tom.

Speaker 1: 54:47

Cruise, yeah. So anyways, what's your first actor?

Speaker 2: 54:54

none of these guys are in any particular order. It's not like my most favorite to least favorite. That's how my list is okay. I think they're all pretty solid guys and because they're in movies I'm willing to give it a chance. So my first one I'm gonna go with is brendan frazier. Brendan frazier because he is in a lot of pretty funny good movies. Obviously the best is the mummy the's, eh, but one and two are solid.

Speaker 1: 55:25

I've considered putting Brendan Fraser on my list, but at the end of the day, the only movie I could really always refer back to in my mind for for him is the Mummy.

Speaker 2: 55:35

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 55:36

He's also in George of the Jungle. I know he's in other stuff George of the Jungle, looney Tunes, back in Action but I just you know those aren't movie the jungle. I know he's in other stuff george of the jungle, uh, looney tunes, back in action but I just you know those aren't movie. Besides the mummy, I don't feel like I've watched a whole lot of brendan fraser movies.

Speaker 2: 55:51

Yeah, yeah, he's in um. Actually it's a pretty interesting concept. He's in a movie blast to the past where he is born inside a bomb shelter. His dad's a prepper in like the 60s and they think that a nuclear warhead goes off and so they rush down to their bunker that he's been prepping and it's like he's prepped it to where they can live down there for decades until there's no more nuclear fallout and basically what happens is he's born the night they go down in there. He grows up in the bomb shelter, so he's stuck in the 60s because that's all his parents had and geez.

Speaker 1: 56:39

That rain is really coming down right now.

Speaker 2: 56:41

Yeah, this is some solid stuff. I wonder if you can hear it in the mics.

Speaker 1: 56:44

I heard some popping when it lightened, so there might be something in the recording.

Speaker 2: 56:50

There you go, anyways, but yeah, so he's blasted the past. He's basically a 20-year-old who his only concept of-.

Speaker 1: 57:00

Is 1960s and. I'm assuming it's and he goes into the 80s is okay, yep, which is not that far of a difference. It's like saying that you have somebody who has 2000 culture and then comparing that to now. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 57:16

Same situation, you know yeah, but it I mean when they do the movie. It is pretty interesting to see like how crazy different it is. Yeah, of 20 years, and I mean we grow. I mean, yeah, we experienced the year 2000 and we're here today and it's like we can relate back to the iconic stuff from back then.

Speaker 2: 57:37

But because we're living in the now, we don't realize how much of a culture shock it is to go one day you're in the year 2000 to the next day you're in 2025. You know Mm-hmm, so anyways, yeah, so there's a couple ones. Inkheart, he's also in that. Yeah, I like Inkheart. Yeah, I really love that book series. Yeah, so he's. Yeah, I think he's a pretty good actor. I really liked his older stuff because he always did all of his own stunts. And I don't know why, but to me I was like that's really cool. Yeah, you know that.

Speaker 1: 58:14

We went and saw real quick side tangent on stunts. Me and Asher went and saw the new John Wick movie Uh-huh on stunts. Me and asha went and saw the new john wick movie uh-huh, and it is such a stark difference with keanu reeves in the other john wick movies doing his own stunts to this young woman who obviously isn't yeah. So this is like it's. Movies are pretty good when you have your actor on screen doing their stunts as the actor. Yeah. So I mean john, I mean not john wick uh, keanu reeves. Like he trained like, yeah, with military training to know how to utilize guns on the screen for this movie, like you know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 58:57

Like I mean the fighting technique he uses in the movies is one that he created himself. Yeah, and based off of what he learned yeah, based off what he learned, he just incorporated close combat with using a sidearm and and created, yeah, his own technique which is.

Speaker 1: 59:15

That's pretty cool so anyway, side tangent over there you go. All right, what's yours, jim carrey? Jim carrey like come on, you have the mask. Ace ventura, pet detective, pet detective, uh, dumb and dumber, liar, liar, the truman show. Like you start naming all these movies, and all of them are great movies I watched a short reel.

Speaker 2: 59:38

It was a guy. He's like someone who started the Truman Show late. He's like watching like a video of a baby and he's on the phone with a friend. He's like when does it get?

Speaker 1: 59:50

good, skip ahead of like six seasons and it'll get good, skip ahead 10 years. You're like, oh okay, that movie's concept is wild. Yeah, Like I see stuff all the time still videos like things you didn't notice. You know what I mean? Yeah, Stuff like that. I'm going to go home and watch Truman Show. I love that movie.

Speaker 2: 1:00:15

Yeah, man, jim Carrey is pretty. He's good at acting, he's a good actor.

Speaker 1: 1:00:21

The Grinch, the Grinch yeah, like he has his rubber face. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, and that's what makes him really stand out is how he utilizes his face. That's like not made of rubber, but sure does look like it when he moves it around.

Speaker 2: 1:00:36

Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised he's not in a superhero movie. I feel like he would be.

Speaker 1: 1:00:42

He is, but I'm not going to say the title of it. Oh, kick Butt. Oh, he's in the second Kick Butt movie. Oh he is. Yeah, oh, I didn't realize that. There you go. But he didn't have any superpower in that. But that was more like everybody's Batman type character. They're all vigilantes. Yeah, more like everybody's Batman type character. They're all vigilantes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:01:04

Good movie, but I'm not going to say the title. Yeah, yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1: 1:01:06

The what was the other one? I guess, if you consider magicians, superheroes, he was in the Incredible Burt Wonderstone.

Speaker 2: 1:01:17

I'm just thinking more of the An actual superhero. Yeah, the DC version of Mr Fantastic, which I can't remember.

Speaker 1: 1:01:24

He was in a superhero movie. He was a villain. I don't know why I forgot about it. He was the Riddler, oh yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:01:32

He was that's funny and he did an all right job.

Speaker 1: 1:01:36

You know Mm-hmm. He did fantastic for what he was given with that movie. Yeah, let's be honest. Yeah, you had those two Tim Burton Batman movies in the 90s, yeah, and they were great. And then Joel Schumacher took it over and made it neon and colorful, mm-hmm, and those actors did their best.

Speaker 2: 1:01:55

Yeah, which, surprisingly for a Tim Burton film, there was no Johnny Depp. Or what's the chick's name? The chick Johnny Depp? Helena Bonham Carter? Yeah, isn't it funny.

Speaker 1: 1:02:08

Yeah well, tim Burton's married to Helena Bonham Carter. She's the female version of Johnny. She's the female version of Johnny Depp.

Speaker 2: 1:02:14

But neither of them made it into the movie. It's crazy.

Speaker 1: 1:02:17

Batman movies I think that was a later on thing, I guess that's true Like whenever they started being in everything together.

Speaker 2: 1:02:23

Yeah. So, All right, cool. So what's your next one? I've got on the list, mel Gibson.

Speaker 1: 1:02:32

I really feel like that we're going down two different paths here, where mine is mostly comedy, yeah, and yours is mostly action.

Speaker 2: 1:02:40

Don't get me wrong, I like comedy and I was thinking in this as like who's a good comedy actor that I like? But I couldn't think of anything when I was thinking of the list. So I guess my mind is just in action because I mean, you know, half the stuff that brendan frazier's in is not action, yeah, or or adventure it, but the few things that I see him in a lot I really like he's really good. But anyways, mel Gibson he did a really good job in the Patriot and Braveheart. Those kind of came out close together somewhat In his younger years. Lethal Weapon yeah, he did a really good job with those movies and he was like more charismatic in those movies. His characterapon yeah, he did a really good job with those movies and he was like more charismatic in those movies. His character was, whereas in, you know, like Braveheart and the Patriot, his character is more down to earth, you know, just trying to get through life kind of deal. So he's got a little bit of a range.

Speaker 1: 1:03:40

Then he played Jesus. He didn't play Jesus. I know so. I got a funny story of a range. Then he played jesus he didn't play, I know so. I got a funny story. That's the reason why I did jesus. He directed jesus.

Speaker 1: 1:03:49

So whenever the passion to christ came out, yeah I didn't know who mel gibson was, because I obviously didn't keep up with action movies like I did comedy movies growing up. Yeah, so I saw that movie and just remember seeing Mel Gibson's name all over it and I just assumed that the guy who played Jesus was Mel Gibson because his name was all over that film.

Speaker 2: 1:04:11

Yeah, yeah, so that was funny to me. I thought about putting him down. Jim Caviehl, the actor who plays Jesus Christ, but I've really only seen him in that. I've seen him in the Count of Monte Cristo. And then there's one other film that we talked about when we talked about Vikings the Outlander.

Speaker 1: 1:04:30

So would you say that's one of your honorable mentions?

Speaker 2: 1:04:34

I don't know if I'd put him in honorable mentions just because I mean he's a good actor, but I haven't seen him in enough to be like, oh yeah, it's a good actor, but I haven't seen him in enough to be like, oh yeah, it's a cavile.

Speaker 1: 1:04:45

So I'm going to go check it out.

Speaker 2: 1:04:46

Yeah, but Mel Gibson one of our favorite movies Pocahontas.

Speaker 1: 1:04:51

That's right, he's John Smith, isn't he? Yeah?

Speaker 2: 1:04:57

That was a joke. For those of you who didn't pick up on it.

Speaker 1: 1:05:00

Pocahontas is not our favorite movie, but no, but I know who you're talking about. Like it's one of those things where it's like I know that he's in that, but it's like one of those like tidbits of knowledge that I can't just call out from memory of like yeah, john Mel Gibson is John Smith, you know, like a huge name playing this main character that you can't tell yeah, all right.

Speaker 2: 1:05:21

What's your number two jack?

Speaker 1: 1:05:24

black all right all right like there's gonna be any other jack paws like jack. Who? Which jack could it be?

Speaker 2: 1:05:32

it's jack nicholson yeah, man, you got all the good ones. You got hard rock or rock, school of rock, anything. I'm like, come on what?

Speaker 1: 1:05:46

oh wreck that one school of rock uh, tenacious d and the pick of destiny I never watched that, that's that's I couldn't, I don't know, I couldn't I wouldn't watch it now but as as a teenager, that was one of my favorite jack black movies. Yeah uh, nacho Libre, kung Fu Panda yeah yeah, house with the Clock in the Walls Like, yeah, anybody. Actually that movie wasn't good. That was a joke, I mean.

Speaker 2: 1:06:13

Bowser for the Mario Brothers Bowser Mario Brothers movie. What's the one where it's like bird watching?

Speaker 1: 1:06:18

Oh man, I know what you're talking about, because Owen Wilson is in that as well. We keep on bringing Owen Wilson up. Mel Owen Wilson is in this movie.

Speaker 2: 1:06:28

Oh man, Because I think it has Steve Martin in it too Mm-hmm, doesn't it?

Speaker 1: 1:06:33

Owen Wilson, steve Martin and Jack Black in this about birdwatching, and for the laugh of me, I want to remember it without looking it up, but it's like watching, or something like that.

Speaker 2: 1:06:42

Yeah, I'm trying to see if I can pull it up. Anyways, what are some other Jack Black movies?

Speaker 1: 1:06:51

Big Year. Big Year, that's what it's called. Big Year. I'm blanking for some reason right now, but he's in so much good stuff. What's that movie where he's the mortician? I don't know, bernie, bernie, have you ever seen Bernie? No, all right, it's got Jack Black and Matthew McConaughey in it and Jack Black plays a funeral home mortician who is just like the greatest guy ever. Okay, just the best guy ever, yeah, ever, yeah. And this like little old lady takes advantage of that and starts kind of making him do all this stuff for free around her, her house and whatnot yeah and he ends up killing her.

Speaker 1: 1:07:32

He shoots her in the back of the head with a bb gun several times until she dies, oh my gosh. And so the rest of the movie is him dealing with the fact that he killed somebody. Essentially, he sees Red and blacks out and just starts pulling the trigger on this BB gun. Jeez, and because she's little and old, yeah, it's a really good movie.

Speaker 2: 1:07:53

Do you feel like Zach Galifianakis is a B Jack Black?

Speaker 1: 1:07:59

B Jack Black B version off-brand To a degree, I feel like he's kind of made a name for himself now a little bit more, but I think whenever he first started acting I would have 100% said yes in his earlier stuff.

Speaker 2: 1:08:18

But I think he's become his own thing because he's lost weight.

Speaker 1: 1:08:20

Oh, really, yeah, Okay, he's Jumba in the live-action Lilo and Stitch oh yeah, I haven't.

Speaker 2: 1:08:29

I still haven't seen it yet uh, it's, it's pretty good, it's okay I've been hearing that it's not like it's okay, but they don't like the changes that have been made. So, oh yeah, jumanji, jack wax and jumanji that's right.

Speaker 1: 1:08:46

Forgot about that. Jumanji one and two. He did the Goosebumps. That's right, he was in Goosebumps. He was RL Stein in that. Yep, another childhood nostalgic thing, you know.

Speaker 2: 1:08:59

I've got different movies pulled up. I'm trying to look at ones that I would actually know he's in Tropic Thunder. Tropic Thunder, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:09:06

Year One. Do you remember that movie? Yeah, it was a movie about the first year of Earth.

Speaker 2: 1:09:10

Yeah, very sacrilegious.

Speaker 1: 1:09:15

Yeah, what was that one where it was like was it Jack Black was upside down and he had to go to the bathroom, but he was in the dungeon being hung upside down where Michael Cera was being hung up normally, or was it vice versa? But either way, one of them had to pee, so they peed and it just run it down his face. I don't remember that was.

Speaker 2: 1:09:35

That movie was funny, that's funny, I forgot about this till just now. King Kong, that's right, he's the director.

Speaker 1: 1:09:44

Not of King Kong, the director that's in the movie King Kong.

Speaker 2: 1:09:48

Yeah, yeah, jack Black also. He makes an appearance on the community TV show, does he yeah?

Speaker 1: 1:09:53

And it's so funny he's also in the Office. He makes a cameo in the Office as well.

Speaker 2: 1:09:59

Oh, he does.

Speaker 1: 1:10:00

Yeah, I can't remember, I'll tell you later. Okay, all right, it's not appropriate for this podcast. This cameo, yeah, all right, cool. So what's your next one? Jason momoa, jason momoa. Ironically, another action, another. I feel like all these actors have probably known each other at one point or another.

Speaker 2: 1:10:19

yeah, uh, but yeah, he's also in the minecraft movie, but, uh, he also is in stargate, stargate, yep, that was one of the first things I saw him in, and then of course, your favorite thing.

Speaker 1: 1:10:29

he's in Game of Thrones. I have not watched that. He's just in one season. Yeah, the first season.

Speaker 2: 1:10:38

I haven't watched it, but I hear he did good. I guess he did good. I watched one of the earlier movies that I saw him in. That wasn't a TV show was Conan the Barbarian. Came out in 2011.

Speaker 1: 1:10:53

That was show. Was conan.

Speaker 2: 1:10:54

The barbarian came out in 2011 was him wasn't it the live, uh, not live action, just the remake of conan the barbarian. Yeah, so that was all right.

Speaker 1: 1:11:01

And then I uh aquaman, aquaman, he's not number two number one was good.

Speaker 2: 1:11:07

Number one was good. Number two is okay dune, he's in the first. Yeah dune, he's's in the first Dune.

Speaker 1: 1:11:11

Yeah, Dune. He's in just the first Dune.

Speaker 2: 1:11:14

Yeah, I had to think about it. And then he's in the Fast and the Furious yes, sagas, but only towards the end. But they throw him in to say like hey, he was in Fast Five, he wasn't.

Speaker 1: 1:11:26

They do that all the time, especially in the Fast and Furious. It's like I was there the whole time. No, you weren't. I know how movies were made.

Speaker 2: 1:11:34

They're trying to intertwine him into something and he wasn't there in the past, so he's in a good amount of stuff. There's something coming out this year that he's in that I'm actually interested in watching what's that. It's called Chief of War and it's an Apple.

Speaker 1: 1:11:48

TV series. He's also in Sea.

Speaker 2: 1:11:54

Have you seen Sea? I've seen stuff for it. I haven't watched it. That's also on Apple. On Apple, yeah, but with Chief of War. The concept is it's I don't know if he's playing King Kamehameha, but he's playing a Hawaiian chieftain during the tribal wars between the different islands, and it's the unification of the different tribes and islands, which is what King Kamehameha is known for. He unifies all the Hawaiian islands through conquest and creates the kingdom of Hawaii. So I would be interested to see if that's what this is. Is that he's portraying king kamehameha the first? But yeah, that seems pretty cool. Anyways, what's yours, number three?

Speaker 1: 1:12:38

will ferrell, will ferrell, will ferrell I love will ferrell movies.

Speaker 2: 1:12:43

Yeah, they're funny. I don't know what it is about will ferrell.

Speaker 1: 1:12:46

He's the same he's. He's got that whatever jim carrey has, where he knows exactly what he has, and it works every single time, and it's very rare that he doesn't essentially play himself in a movie. Yeah, and we love him for it.

Speaker 2: 1:13:02

Yeah, I think that duane johnson does it as well yeah but I'm kind of getting tired of it yeah, yeah, I think that will ferrell and adam sandler. They know their niche and they stay in their niche and that's why they've done so well elf, anchorman, talladega knights, old school step brothers bewitched.

Speaker 1: 1:13:28

Which one of these movies is worse than the others?

Speaker 2: 1:13:30

I don't think.

Speaker 1: 1:13:31

I've seen Bewitched. Bewitched was like the remake of the TV show. There was a TV show in the 60s 70s called Bewitched, yeah, and it was kind of like, hey, bewitched was a TV show, but the witch from it was real or something. You know what I mean. It was a joke.

Speaker 2: 1:13:48

Megamind, megamind, daddy's Home, daddy's Home.

Speaker 1: 1:13:53

Kicking and Screaming.

Speaker 2: 1:13:55

Kicking and Screaming yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:13:56

What's the one where he gets kicked out of his house and now he has to live on his front yard. Everything Must Go. I've never seen that one. It's depressing. It was Will Ferrell attempting to be a serious actor.

Speaker 2: 1:14:11

Oh, okay, don't you to me like. When comedians do that most of the time it does not go well.

Speaker 1: 1:14:20

Jim Carrey did it in two movies. I can call out and they both were pretty good the number 23,. And then I'm going to say it wrong, but the Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless mind.

Speaker 2: 1:14:33

I've seen number 23 and I couldn't get behind it because the concept is like it's a guy who's mentally losing it and becoming psychotic and you know you're supposed to get through that suspense, thriller-esque. But because it was Jim Carrey you couldn't look past it Because of Jim Carrey's iconic look. Yeah, yeah, you couldn't get past it, any kind of facial expression.

Speaker 1: 1:14:59

I was like hmm, Because you're just in the movie theater in a very serious moment and you're just like ha ha ha.

Speaker 2: 1:15:05

Yeah, you're like. Ha ha ha. Good one, everyone's like what?

Speaker 1: 1:15:12

He. I'm like, ah, good one, everyone's like what? He's falling apart, and I hit her with my car Classic.

Speaker 2: 1:15:17

Classic Jim. Yeah, so yeah, I agree with that. What's your last one? So the last one I'll do is Henry Cavill, Henry Cavill Cavill.

Speaker 1: 1:15:28

Henry Cavill, a more modern DC actor.

Speaker 2: 1:15:33

Yeah, the younger. Well, he's not really young, I think he's in his 40s, but I guess a younger face than all the other ones that I've brought up, but he's I mean almost everything that I've seen him in I've liked, so obviously you know he was man of steel. I feel like he's been the best superman I've ever seen yeah, I don't know, I'm, I'm.

Speaker 2: 1:15:57

I think this new movie is gonna be really good maybe I don't know, but I think he portrays superman well, yeah, and I think it stirs from his devotion to just he's a nerd, yeah, he's a nerd, and so he's like I want to do right by the character that's been developed, not like I want to come in and do my own thing thing, yeah, so, yeah, so he's.

Speaker 2: 1:16:21

He's in that I like the movie immortals. He's in that there's a movie I don't know if you've watched it, but it's the ministry of ungentlemanly warfare. I've heard of that but I've never seen it. It was good, I enjoyed it. And then he's in other stuff. You know like, uh, mission impossible. Six seven six six or seven, six or seven. Uh, he's in the witcher. Didn't really watch that, but everyone says that he did a good job as that character.

Speaker 1: 1:16:49

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend watching that show. Yeah, like, yeah, from the point of view of a christian, yeah, yeah, but him in it, he did a good job. Yeah, anything he is in, he plays that role really well yeah, he was in.

Speaker 2: 1:17:05

Uh, in his younger years he was in the count of monte cristo. I don't know if you ever watched that.

Speaker 1: 1:17:11

I have not, but I know it. He did good. Anyways, do you have any honorable mentions that you want to run through real quick?

Speaker 2: 1:17:20

Johnny Depp, viggo Morrison, paul Rudd, chris Pratt, chris Pratt, yeah, chris Pratt. I didn't put him on my list, but I should have. He does good. And another guy who I haven't seen him in a whole lot of live action, but he's got a really good voice Andy Serkis. You see him in Black Panther, right, right, but most of everything else I've seen him in it's CGI'd over. Yeah, he does motion capture work a lot, yeah, yeah. So he's just the voice or it's motion cap gollum.

Speaker 1: 1:17:55

Yeah, he's gollum, he's caesar and planet of the apes yeah, so that's a big thing like people don't realize. But yeah, he does a good ape, yeah, a good person on his hand, all fours walking, walking around.

Speaker 2: 1:18:10

Yeah, but yeah, lord of the Rings, a reboot of Planet of the Apes.

Speaker 1: 1:18:15

There's others, but those are the two that come to mind he's in the Venom movies.

Speaker 2: 1:18:19

I can't remember what he does. The newer Venom movies Compared to the older Venom movies. Yeah and then. Yeah, he's in Black Panther. This says he's in Star Wars, the Force Awakens. He's Snoke.

Speaker 1: 1:18:34

That's what it is. He did motion capture for Snoke.

Speaker 2: 1:18:37

Yeah, yeah, there we go.

Speaker 1: 1:18:40

Yeah and voiced Snoke.

Speaker 2: 1:18:43

And voiced him Okay, so your last one and then honorable mentions.

Speaker 1: 1:18:48

Oh, I have a last one. I thought I did my last one already.

Speaker 2: 1:18:52

No, or maybe you did.

Speaker 1: 1:18:54

No, you didn't. Kenan Thompson. Kenan Thompson I'm glad I get to end on Kenan Thompson Like, growing up he was in all that and he was in Kenan and Kel, okay, and he was a huge inspiration for me to do acting-related things. You know what I mean. Okay, honestly, there wouldn't be Regal Shenanigans without Kenyon Thompson or Home Videos without Kenyon Thompson. Yeah, this podcast probably would not exist if it wasn't for me watching Kenyon Thompson Okay, because of that like butterfly effect of being inspired to be on camera or always doing something, and how I found joy in that.

Speaker 2: 1:19:39

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:19:39

It was because of Kenan Thompson and Cal Mitchell.

Speaker 2: 1:19:43

So what was your? What was the first Kenan Thompson thing that you watched? That you were like, oh, awesome.

Speaker 1: 1:19:50

All that. It was a kid's skit SNL show that came on Nickelodeon and me and my brother watched it religiously every single Saturday night. So not Good Burger. Good Burger stemmed off of all that. Oh, it did. Yeah, good Burger was a movie because of all that Gotcha, it was a skit in all that, okay, and then they made that movie.

Speaker 1: 1:20:12

There you go, and so Kenan and Kel you know Kenan and Kel, so I got a little bit personal there, you know, but it's just an interesting thing. The reason why this podcast exists is mostly because of God. Yes, but I hate saying, but because of God, yes, but I hate saying, but because of God. But no, but me and you wouldn't be doing this if me and you didn't click in the way that we create things. Yeah, and part of that is because of me coming over and you having a video camera and we filmed stupid stuff, and this wouldn't happen if we didn't have those years of us creating things. Yeah, having, yeah, yeah, and you know my willingness to be in front of the camera, be doing silly, stupid things on the camera.

Speaker 2: 1:21:07

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:21:08

And being up on stage doing silly, stupid stuff for the youth and filming things and creating and you know that's where that started Awesome.

Speaker 2: 1:21:19

That's very touching.

Speaker 1: 1:21:20

Yeah, way to make it really nice and wholesome. Yeah, honorable mentions. Eddie Murphy is one of them. Eddie Murphy, will Smith, mike Myers, robin Williams Okay, one of them, um, eddie murphy, will smith, mike myers, robin williams okay, yeah, I mean just like these, like mostly because, like, I like their movies but they weren't on as much as the others growing up yeah, yeah so awesome, dude, awesome, dude, awesome.

Speaker 2: 1:21:50

Well, you guys in the comments, let us know who your top five actors or actresses are.

Speaker 1: 1:21:58

And if you don't know what a movie is, how are you listening to this? No, I was gonna say, then tell us which host of the podcast is your favorite. Yeah, for real. Who is your favorite? Yeah, for real. Who is your favorite podcast actor? On the Saints that Serve podcast.

Speaker 2: 1:22:15

What Everyone's going to comment. Janelle, now Janelle.

Speaker 1: 1:22:20

Who is your favorite consistent host? Who's been on every single episode? There we go.

Speaker 2: 1:22:26

The answer is me. We've passed a thousand downloads, so way to go everybody hey, everybody, everybody I don't know.

Speaker 2: 1:22:37

I feel like it's more of a good job. Everyone we leveled up, but our most downloaded it's the intro, or we're literally just telling everybody what we are right. And then our second still our second most downloaded episode is episode number five with janelle. Yeah, I'm like what the heck? We've got? We've got a download from. We've got somebody in brazil, someone in the middle east we've got we talked about the other day, someone in russia is listening to our stuff. They all know janelle and they all. Yeah, literally, I feel like janelle's just messaging random people around the world like hey, check out just episode five of the podcast.

Speaker 1: 1:23:15

Yeah, so we had somebody go through. It really surprised me where it was like we have our normal view count and then it just skyrocketed up and it was by like, like on a random Friday where it was like 40 views on a day that an episode our show didn't come out. Like an episode didn't come out. Yeah, and I looked at it because it was somebody new going through listening to all the new episodes. Oh really, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:23:45

Yeah, dude, and that's what's crazy to me is our third most listened like the territory that has downloaded the most of our episodes is America. This is the United States, Number two is Singapore and number three is Russian Federation. Like, if you asked me, I would have never thought that I'd be like well, I don't know, but yeah, dude, there's some. Like, when I pulled up this stuff and started looking at these different countries that have listened in and made a download or a couple of downloads, I was like what the heck? How did this happen? I mean, like Canada, given America, obviously, and then you think, maybe one or two others, but like Ethiopia, who in Ethiopia found us and is listening to us, you know? So it's, it's cool. I mean it's fun to see. We're by no means like it's either worldwide.

Speaker 1: 1:24:39

Yeah, yeah, or somebody has a VP and turned on, or someone I'm kidding it's worldwide.

Speaker 2: 1:24:44

Yeah, hey, did you listen to the podcast when you went on vacation, cause we've got a download in France from the last five. Well, you've been here longer than five days.

Speaker 1: 1:24:56

Right, Someone saw your face. Somebody saw me and said I bet that guy has a podcast.

Speaker 2: 1:25:00

That's right and they downloaded it. That's funny. Okay, all right. Well, that's all.

Speaker 1: 1:25:05

I've got for actors, so me too. So everybody, thank you so much for joining us on this episode 41 of the Saints that Serve podcast. Thank you so much. We love you guys. We really do. We really do appreciate you, and I was going to be mean and just mess up the outro to make fun of you because you haven't been able to get it right the last couple of times. Ouch, okay, but.

Speaker 2: 1:25:32

Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now.

Speaker 1: 1:25:35

We are the saints that serve.

Speaker 2: 1:26:00

Why you gotta do me like that?

Speaker 1: 1:26:03

Why you gonna call me out on my past mistakes.

Speaker 2: 1:26:07

We're supposed to move forward. We're new creations every day. When are we gonna start playing Helldivers again?