Speaker 2: 0:02

Welcome to the Saints that Serve, podcast where, each week, your hosts dive into the crossroads of faith, culture and the unknown.

Speaker 1: 0:14

Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now. We are the Saints that Serve. Thank you for choosing the Saints that Serve podcast. I'm your host, Jairus. How may I take your conversation on this episode 39 of the podcast? Have you ever thought about the podcast being a service? A service, yeah.

Speaker 2: 0:57

No, no, I hadn't thought of it as being a service.

Speaker 1: 1:00

But you know, but we are the Saints that Serve, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:04

I figured you know like okay, well, maybe the live streams is like a service. But you know, but we are the Saints that Serve. Yeah, I figured you know like okay, well, maybe the live streams is like a service, you know, but you've never thought about us being like a fast food joint. No no.

Speaker 1: 1:14

We would be the Saints that Serve Uh Food.

Speaker 2: 1:18

Yeah, saints that Serve. Food, but yeah anyways, dude, but yeah anyways. Thank you all for joining us on this episode 39 of the saints that serve.

Speaker 1: 1:32

Podcast episode 39 how you been pretty good how you been doing.

Speaker 2: 1:36

I've been doing pretty good also. Just so everyone knows, I'm also your host, johnny, that's right, I didn't say that.

Speaker 1: 1:43

Okay, if y'all, if this is your first episode of the podcast, first off, welcome. Thank you for joining us, yes, welcome. And if you are a longtime listener, if you've listened to every episode all 39 episodes, including bonus content which, by the way, we are, if we count all content we've released, this is content number 50. Content we release this is content number 50. That's amazing, I know. So we put out yeah, that's a lot. We've done a 50 things for this podcast.

Speaker 2: 2:12

oh, no, technically more if you count the live streams yeah so over 50 nice, and we don't even do this full time no, this is, this is our side.

Speaker 1: 2:22

I wouldn't even want to call it a gig. This is our side project. Yes, we don't make money, guys. Our art project by choice, by choice yeah so but yeah, oh man, I lost my train of thought, I got sidetracked there. Oh, if y'all, if y'all are on this for 39 episodes and you don't know who johnny is, I get it. I'm pretty great, great and Johnny's forgettable fair, got him, got him.

Speaker 2: 2:50

Uh, yeah, no, we're. Uh, we're the same as a surf and you should follow us on social media. We're on Instagram x, not Twitter anymore technically Twitter.

Speaker 1: 3:02

I we've talked about this before. I think that, even though at the forefront of it is X, if you search Twitter, x comes up.

Speaker 2: 3:10

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:11

So it's not like the phrase Twitter referring to X is gone.

Speaker 2: 3:16

It's weird to call it X-ing. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's got to be a tweet, not an X. I'm tweeting, I'm not X-ing. Isn't like just Elon Musk has a thing for the letter x I don't know, I don't, I don't claim to know no, mr musk his likes or dislikes you're not a musky I would like to think that as a child, he played with a lot of different variations of vehicles, because it seems like that's what he keeps on coming back to.

Speaker 1: 3:43

Yeah made a spaceship. Nah, it's not my thing.

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Car cars spaceships and train tracks for trains do you think he likes the x-men?

Speaker 2: 3:54

maybe I don't know, or he likes the number 10, oh yeah, anyway, so you can follow us on there. On X we're also on Threads, youtube, facebook, all of it except MySpace. We've already determined that we're not going to do that. We're not committing to MySpace. But yeah, if you need prayer for anything, pray for us. No, I mean yes, pray for us, but if you need prayer for anything, let us know and we'll pray for you, yeah, yeah and at the same time, pray for us.

Speaker 2: 4:29

Yeah, pray for us and we will pray for you. But you can either email us at saintsatserveatgmailcom or you can message us using the direct link at the bottom of the show description. And then we just recently did a live stream worship night. We did. Yeah, if you guys like that, let us know yeah.

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It's weird, it's weird.

Speaker 2: 4:55

Let us know if you're partaking in that.

Speaker 1: 4:58

Let us know if you watch the thing that as of this recording hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 2: 5:03

Yeah, yeah, we haven't. We're recording ahead.

Speaker 1: 5:07

But I mean, that's what we do every week, so it's not a big surprise or anything Shocker. Everyone I know, right? No, the reason why I bring that up is because I'm already going to date this episode, so I'm very excited. In about a couple hours I'm going to head out to go wait in line for another five hours to get the Switch 2. So that's right.

Speaker 2: 5:28

Awesome, I can't wait for you. That's so exciting.

Speaker 1: 5:30

I got that button too. No, not the GameCube, the Switch 2. No, but the reason why I say that is because that was one of the major factors holding us back on doing our Saints. That Play channel, yeah. Our gaming channel yeah. It's going to be probably now around sometime in July when that goes live. But the Switch 2 was the console in a very particular game I wanted to get for the Switch 2.

Speaker 2: 6:00

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 6:01

That I want us to start with. So it's still coming.

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It's on its way, you guys. It's on its way, so it's still coming.

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It's on its way, you guys. It's on its way, so be on the lookout. It's going to be sometime in July. At this point it's going to be great.

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So yes, if you need prayer, just. Sorry sorry, and that's pretty much all I have for announcements. So are you ready to get into our topic?

Speaker 1: 6:25

Yes, go ahead. I'm not clever like you. I didn't write like this all along.

Speaker 2: 6:33

Here's our ambience.

Speaker 1: 6:35

All right, hold on, here we go. When most people hear the word Viking, they imagine horned helmets, long ships on stormy seas and warriors pillaging coastal towns. But who were the Vikings really? So, tyler, this is your transition into the main topic Vikings.

Speaker 2: 7:05

That was really good, thank you, it was really good, thank you.

Speaker 1: 7:10

Uh, yeah, guys we're talking about Vikings, if you? Uh, if you look at my notes, look how much that was just that first small paragraph up there. Oh, yeah, thanks for not. Yeah, don't, thanks for not keep going.

Speaker 2: 7:20

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 7:21

Thank you. I mean you put me on the spot there of doing something, so I was like I got you hey, that reading was so good, you leveled up wow in a game I didn't really like that much. That's another level, another. What is that deception that time?

Speaker 2: 7:40

I don't know yeah, I guess, uh, no. So we're gonna be talking about vikings, but we're gonna kind of we'll talk a little bit about who the vikings actually were, but we're gonna kind of more focus so on viking media, yeah, so there's, I mean, surprisingly there's a lot.

Speaker 1: 7:57

There's a lot more within my research than I thought.

Speaker 2: 8:02

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 8:04

So there's some that I was like, oh yeah, of course, like well, some I didn't know about, some that I forgot about, and some that just like, oh, of course I forgot about. You know what I mean. You know what I'm saying. I'm thinking of what you're throwing down. Thank you, please, because I don't want to litter.

Speaker 2: 8:20

Good, you know what I'm saying. I'm thinking of what you're throwing down. Thank you, please, because I don't want to litter. Good call, yeah. So what do you want to talk about first? You want to get into?

Speaker 1: 8:27

The Vikings were yeah, let's do that.

Speaker 2: 8:30

Okay.

Speaker 1: 8:33

Let's talk about who the Vikings were. So the Vikings were seafaring people from the Scandinavian countries of Norway, denmark and Sweden who lived during the late 8th to early 11th centuries, a period commonly known as the Viking Age. They were not a unified people or nation, but a collection of independent tribes and chieftains with a shared culture, language, language and worldview, just like southern people in georgia just like the southern people so yeah, 793 ad to 10, 66 ad, so 300 years.

Speaker 2: 9:19

Yeah, they were, they were pretty big deal they, so a lot of their like the biggest thing about the Vikings was, for a while there, their pagan culture, so they were a polytheistic culture before Christianity came in to the picture. But they so they had, you know, different gods and they did different practices for different things, Mm-hmm and. But they don't have like a holy text Right Like Judaism or Islam or Christianity.

Speaker 1: 9:56

Yeah, which I didn't realize this, but all of their stories and religious practices and gods were all spoken word of mouth, passed down.

Speaker 2: 10:09

Yeah, it was all predominantly oral. Some of their lore, well, I guess a lot of their lore was kind of chronicled in things that they called sagas, and so from what I'm seeing, there was approximately ballpark, I guess, a hundred sagas that we have found. I think the one that I know the most is the Volsung sagas.

Speaker 1: 10:40

Why does that sound so familiar?

Speaker 2: 10:43

Because a lot of people take creative inspiration from the Volsungs.

Speaker 1: 10:51

Is that kind of like what's mostly used in media today?

Speaker 2: 10:56

Maybe a little bit. I know that the Tolkien took inspiration from the Volsungs, not CS Lewis, not CS.

Speaker 1: 11:06

I mean, maybe he took some too. You want a quick mini? Let me apologize for you to keep Sorry.

Speaker 2: 11:10

Okay, let me apologize everybody. I kept on mixing up CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien. Last episode I corrected myself every time.

Speaker 1: 11:20

Yeah, but you kept doing it.

Speaker 2: 11:21

And I kept doing it, and so that's unacceptable. I'm sorry, forgive me, and now that I've apologized I don't care what any of you think of me. No, but seriously, I am sorry. But yeah, I know that for Lord of the Rings he did take creativity or inspiration Inspiration from the Volsungs, and I can't think of anybody else but their story. I don't know, I don't know it well enough to kind of sit here and give you a synopsis of it, but it is very popular. Yeah, that and Beowulf are like two really popular Viking writings the Volsungs and then Beowulf.

Speaker 1: 12:10

Yeah, so did you know? The word Viking likely comes from the Old Norse viker, meaning pirate or raider. I'm saying it wrong. It's spelled V-I-K-I-N-G-R.

Speaker 2: 12:25

Vikinger Dude from having friends from Sweden and Norway. Sometimes the way that they pronounce words it's just silly. You'll pronounce it the exact same way and they're like no, you're pronouncing it wrong and you're just like what. You didn't put enough of a ooh or a ur in your whatever.

Speaker 1: 12:48

Yeah, you didn't make enough sound on the letter Like oh yeah, the letter O in my name has to be said exactly three seconds.

Speaker 2: 12:57

Yeah, you didn't do it the right way. It's supposed to be like this.

Speaker 1: 13:04

That's how I pronounce my ends, yeah.

Speaker 2: 13:08

Uh, but yeah, it is a, it is an interesting language.

Speaker 1: 13:12

My boss at work is Polish and I say his name right and he tells me all the time no, you're saying my name wrong. No, I'm saying it correctly. I'm just not saying it the Polish rolling the R at the end or whatever.

Speaker 2: 13:25

Can I just acknowledge that everywhere else in the world they do that to Americans. They're like, no, you're saying it wrong or no, you're pronouncing it wrong. But whenever somebody comes here and says our names wrong or mispronounces our words, we're just like we go out of our way to try and understand what they're saying.

Speaker 1: 13:42

Yeah, I mean yeah, we get it, we get it.

Speaker 2: 13:45

Yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 1: 13:51

Also, we kind of slur our words and letters together to the point where like hamburger is burger.

Speaker 2: 13:55

Well, but that's just a dialect, that's just an English dialect. You know what I mean. That's just a dialect, that's just an English dialect.

Speaker 1: 14:00

You know what I mean. That's an American word Merca. See, like that we slurred all together instead of saying America, merca, merca.

Speaker 2: 14:09

Yeah, dude. I mean, look at the Gen Z stuff. They can literally put a bunch of words together that when you put them all together they make no sense. But because they and their generation have given those words alternative meanings they can dialogue with one another we need to put.

Speaker 1: 14:30

I at one point wanted to play a game. Obviously I'm not prepared for it, so maybe like next week or something like that, but I wanted to like, throw at you current slang, okay, and see if you could guess what it meant. No cap, maybe you do. Yeah, we hear it, but what does it really mean? You know what I mean, so be on the lookout for that. We might try to play that next week. Skibbity Ohio, riz. Skibbity Riz, it's so stupid, yeah. And skippity riz, it's so stupid, yeah. And most of the words mean nothing. They're like instead of like, where, like you say, like bet means you betcha, like gotcha. You know what I mean. It's something like skippity and you know skippity tulip or skippity riz, like. Skippity is means nothing. It's a nothing word that they just add in there. They created, created, yeah.

Speaker 2: 15:18

It is quite funny, but yeah, going back to the Vikings, yeah, let's get back on topic, get back on the focus.

Speaker 1: 15:24

Tonight I feel like we're going to get off topic a few times and that's okay. That's okay Because you're just hanging out with us tonight, that's right. Or this morning, I guess, nice and smooth.

Speaker 2: 15:36

Depends on when you're listening to it, just hanging out with your friends or just having a good time you know, breaking the ice.

Speaker 1: 15:45

Jeez, oh, that was some really fragile ice. Wait, wait, do that again. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 15:53

Here we are. We're going to talk about Vikings. Joke, we're not talking about the historical Vikings, we're talking about the football team well, bait and switch this is now a sports podcast saints that talk about football. The saints that play yeah, sports sports, talk about sports.

Speaker 1: 16:14

Uh, saints, that sports the saints that sports no that wouldn't be bad if we did end up having somebody who actually was a sports person person expert to come on and, you know, have their own show. We can branch the show the the saints brand out.

Speaker 2: 16:31

Yeah, I feel like this is this is a dialogue for a creative meeting, not for for the actual podcast live.

Speaker 1: 16:38

I will say one last thing. When we first started the podcast, anytime you search for the Saints, that the football team was the only thing that came up. That is funny. You do certain Saints that serve. It's like the Saints. New Orleans Saints football team. New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 2: 16:55

But we're getting there, we're catching up with the New Orleans.

Speaker 1: 16:57

Saints, that's right. We're going to bypass them soon, awesome. Or surpass them, let's do it.

Speaker 2: 17:03

I will say that a lot of the lore from the Vikings religion, if you will, that plays into all things fantasy today. Yeah, we talked about fantasy last week, but a lot of stuff that we have that like we call by the names, like elves, trolls, goblins, frost giants, fire giants, dragons, like all these different things they're, they're included in the viking religion and lore. Yeah, and then, because tolkien took inspiration from that and since he's the father of fantasy, it exploded and and that's what we had today. So now, when anyone talks about a godlin or when anyone talks about a, an elf, yeah, we all think fantasy. But those things come from the Viking religion. Yeah, you know so, their false religion, their false religion, which, when the TV series was out for a couple of years, vikings, vikings. After that, there's a very small resurgence of paganism, viking paganism. Yeah, they followed the line of the Germanic, scandinavian paganism, but they don't do the exact same stuff.

Speaker 1: 18:40

They're not doing blood sacrifices of humans, it's more of they. It's almost like not so much practicing as much as just people who just really like, like they're super fans of the stories. You know what I mean? Yeah, the same way people go in over the top with any fan base of some kind.

Speaker 2: 18:59

Yeah, well, I mean, in the search of identity that we all go through, right, when something strikes you and you're like I really like that or I really want to be a part of that, it will alter you. I mean, your identity will then revolve around that until it becomes your belief system, right, that's why you have things like people practicing Viking paganism or women getting involved in Druid cult practices.

Speaker 1: 19:29

Right. It's weird to me because it's just like anything can be a replacement for God. It doesn't just necessarily have to be something that is presenting itself as a religion. I mean you can replace God in that, be your deity Anime, you go to these conventions, you dress up and you practice it and you do all these things like it's a religion, sports. Anything can be a ungodly replacement of God.

Speaker 2: 20:03

Yeah, I would say so, getting into the philosophical weeds, that when people don't attribute a deity to their worship that they practice, it's because they practice humanism and that's their religion, because humanism preaches that you're valuable, you have self-worth. Take care of yourself, pamper yourself, get yourself into the point where you can live your best life, treat yourself and then your life will be great and you'll live a great life. And so people who just have they don't have a concept. Be for, treat yourself is what atheism sought out to do.

Speaker 2: 20:49

Atheists sought out to prove, like God doesn't exist. This is all random, it's all by chance, and there is no afterlife. There is nothing. We're just an accident floating through the void of space. And so that has evolved into just humanism, because being a hardcore atheist, they're pretty much all gone. It's really hard to stick to that, but it has gone down to agnostics and humanism and then even new age, when you get super spiritual new age. But yeah it, uh, yeah. So anybody who like, who does that like they don't. They don't necessarily have any sort of religious tie, but they, they put all their time, treasures and talents into this one thing, like you said, anime. It's probably because their concept of reality is based in humanism, or it's people that they associate themselves with a religion, but they don't have an understanding of what it is to worship.

Speaker 1: 22:04

Right, because a lot of times they don't have any guidance. They just kind of made it up.

Speaker 2: 22:08

Yeah, so everyone's just seeking their own truth into what happened in the fall in the garden in Genesis.

Speaker 1: 22:19

Chapter 3 is trying to put things and take control of something that is beyond your control.

Speaker 2: 22:26

Well, yeah, and I mean, the tree was called, the fruit was called the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And so Adam and Eve were seeking to have that knowledge right, and the serpent was giving half truths to masquerade the idea that, like hey, you're not getting the whole truth. You know, so why don't you do this? And and so now here we are, you, you know, I believe, 6,000 years removed, and people are constantly seeking for truth. And if you go to John, I want to say John 18. So I'm going to pull it up in my handy dandy Bible app Is your name?

Speaker 1: 23:16

Steve.

Speaker 2: 23:18

Steve.

Speaker 1: 23:19

Yeah, you have your handy dandy notebook. Oh no, that was a blues clues reference. My name's not Steve.

Speaker 2: 23:26

I am Steve, so Jesus is about to be crucified. We still need to do that.

Speaker 1: 23:34

That review? Yeah, we're, we're, we're just coming guys.

Speaker 2: 23:38

We're going to review the Minecraft, maybe don't worry.

Speaker 2: 23:40

Uh yeah, it's coming, guys. We're going to review the Minecraft, maybe Don't worry, anyways. So John, chapter 18, starting in verse 37, says Then, pilate said to him so you are the king? Jesus answered you say that I am a king. For this purpose I was born and for this purpose I have come into the world to bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice. Pilate said to him what is truth? After he had said this, he went back outside to the Jews and told them I find no guilt in him. And it keeps going back and forth and ultimately christ is crucified and and is buried and then three days later, he comes back from the dead. But there's that little interaction with pilot, who's a pagan, who has no belief in yahweh, and but he's confronted with this righteous man who has done nothing wrong, yet his, His own people want to kill him, and so he's trying to figure out what's going on. And and Jesus has made the.

Speaker 2: 24:46

They say that Jesus has made the claim that he is the King of the Jews, and so pilots like is it true? Like, if you claim that, and Jesus is just talking about the truth. It's like what's the truth? Jesus is just talking about the truth. It's like what's the truth?

Speaker 2: 25:02

The truth is that God created all things. There's only one God. Mankind has rebelled against God and fallen into what we call sin, which is the action of defiance and disobedience of God and his holy rule and order, and disobedience of God and his holy rule and order. And Jesus has come to pay the price so that man can be forgiven of his sin, so that he can be restored to communion and fellowship with the creator, who originally designed man to be in communion and fellowship with the creator, designed man to be in communion and fellowship with the creator. And so jesus is spitting like I have come to. I have come to reveal the truth and those who believe will know the truth.

Speaker 2: 25:50

And uh and pilots, like the first time in his life, he's like what is that? What is? What is the truth? You know, and people may. People may interpret that differently, but I guess what I'm trying to get at through all this dialogue is that everyone is seeking truth, right, they may be not so honest about it and say they're after something else or they're living for something else, but ultimately everyone is seeking to live in a truth, but there's only one truth. There's not multiple truths, there's not my truth and your truth. There's just the truth.

Speaker 2: 26:30

And it has to be found in God, because God is the truth, the creator, the foundation of all things that exist, and so, in order for us to get accurate information, we need to start with God.

Speaker 1: 26:45

So yeah and yeah, with that, you know it's we're looking at Vikings from the point of view of entertainment and not really, you know, looking at it as a actual religion. Yeah, that's always how I've viewed. You know Greek mythology as well personally. It's just a fairy tale, it's just something interesting to be a part of, but nothing that you should take seriously when it comes to your faith.

Speaker 2: 27:13

Yeah, it goes back around to what we've talked about so many times when it comes to magic, around to what we've talked about so many times when it comes to magic, like, if it's, if it's conflicting you and the spirit is convicting you, you can do without it. You don't need that stuff. I mean, I used to love to sit and listen to viking music, uh, but I can't do it anymore. I've got this weird thing. I'm like some of these songs. They are singing to Odin, they are singing to Freyr, and those are demonic forces. I firmly believe that. So I don't really want to listen to a song that's singing to a demonic force, right? But yeah, I mean mean to each his own. And on the flip side of that, I love the vikings show, the first three seasons at least.

Speaker 1: 28:08

I love the uh, I think it's called the last kingdom so, yeah, before we start talking about that, let's just all right, let's, you know, said all that to say that we're not really going to get too much into the full backstory. We gave a kind of a brief summary of the Vikings in that sense, but what we really wanted to talk about was Viking media, because it's fun. It is fun. So do you want to talk about movies, video games? What do you want to go into?

Speaker 2: 28:40

first, tv shows let's bring up, maybe like our top two or three movies. Do you have a top viking movie that you like?

Speaker 1: 28:51

yeah, what is it? The northman?

Speaker 2: 28:54

really good. It's so good. It's dark, but it's good yeah it.

Speaker 1: 28:58

I think it really summarizes like if you're trying to watch something that has vikings in it, yeah, it's a viking story with no like. I mean, there are weird spiritual moments in it yes but overall, if you're talking about, you know just a show about or a movie about Vikings, yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 2: 29:21

Yeah, so for me my top Viking movie is going to be the 13th Warrior. Have you ever watched that movie before?

Speaker 1: 29:33

No, but it's on my list, okay.

Speaker 2: 29:36

It's funny because it's Antonio Banderas.

Speaker 1: 29:39

Yeah, we've talked about this, right. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 29:43

A Spanish man from Spain, antonio Banderas, plays an Arab from the Middle East who goes on a quest with 12 Nordic Vikings and he's the 13th one. He's the 13th warrior that goes on this quest, but it is a good story. I do like it. And then, honorable, second up, how to train your dragon.

Speaker 1: 30:09

Yeah, let's be honest, how to train your dragon is probably you. We all have our favorites, but it's probably that one's probably the best. Yeah, I mean, come on, we're about to get a live action remake of it's. It's probably that one's probably the best. Yeah, I mean, come on, we're about to get a live action remake of it.

Speaker 2: 30:22

Yeah, it's gonna be great, it's gonna be great. Another good one is outlander it has. Who's the guy that plays christ in passion? Ah, geez, um, I keep on wanting to say vin something and I'm like, no, that's vin diesel and he's vin diesel.

Speaker 1: 30:37

You know what this is about. It's jim cavillo, as he's on the uh, as, and he's vin diesel. You know what this is about. It's jim cavill, as he's on the uh, as he's on the cross. You know what this is about. It's about family anyways.

Speaker 2: 30:53

Uh yeah, jim cavill. It's a jim cavill movie and it's about a. There's no other way to say this. It's about a alien. He's an alien coming down to earth during the viking age like a gray man. No, no he's a human. But I'm just saying he's not from earth, but he's a human.

Speaker 1: 31:13

Well, but you know what I mean. Alien outer space. Outer space alien ufos. Alien in viking times. Alien in Viking times Outlander.

Speaker 2: 31:20

Yep Outlander. He comes down because there is an actual space alien monster that has landed on Earth and he is trying to kill it. What are movies, dude? It's a good movie. What are movies? It's a good movie? Yeah, so those are my things. Do you want to talk?

Speaker 1: 31:45

about shows real quick. Yeah, so I've watched viking movies. I really haven't watched too many viking shows. Yeah, so I think that you I mean you talked about yours here I've watched a couple episodes of vikings, but only because ashley had on. You know what I mean. Yeah, but I never really sat down and watched Vikings.

Speaker 2: 32:03

There's not really. I mean, I guess there's a good amount, but like the top two I would say are Vikings. And then the Last Kingdom was pretty big too.

Speaker 1: 32:17

And what's the Last Kingdom about? Because I have it on my list of movies, but you know.

Speaker 2: 32:22

So the Last Kingdom is about basically, the Vikings invading Britain and setting up their own territory within England, and then it's the conflicts between the two, between the Britons and the Vikings, and during all of that it's the different British kingdoms trying to unite somehow. And so-.

Speaker 1: 32:50

So is the Vikings, the villains in it Sometimes.

Speaker 2: 32:54

Sometimes it's the British and sometimes the Vikings team up with the certain groups, certain groups certain facts, so it just depends on the episode depends on the season. Okay, um, but there's, I don't remember it ran for seven years yeah, it has. Did it say how many seasons it?

Speaker 1: 33:15

doesn't?

Speaker 2: 33:16

it just shows 2015 to 2022 okay, so it has five seasons and then a movie okay, it's like the movie, the closer, or just yeah it closes out the story. It's, I think it's called like seven kings must die, or something like that gotcha, they did that, but with firefly.

Speaker 1: 33:33

They started with firefly, but it was serenity. Then they had the tv show. Oh no, I I know what. You know I'm getting off track, but I just said they made that statement and I was like there's a 50% chance I'm wrong on that statement of what came first. So Serenity was the movie after the show. Yes, okay, firefly is the show, and then there's a movie.

Speaker 2: 33:55

Also the name of the ship Yep.

Speaker 1: 34:01

And then the movie is serenity, which happens after the show. Right, does it close the show out, or does it just kind of like add on, like they were going to try to do more but they just never did, or um, I guess it kind of closes the show out.

Speaker 2: 34:13

The show didn't do very well, but the movie did good gotcha.

Speaker 1: 34:17

So I just know I watched like an episode. I know it was highly beloved.

Speaker 2: 34:21

Now it is, yeah, but I think when it came out it wasn't super popular. Yeah, and you know what? I don't like the propaganda that it spewed. What's the propaganda? Everyone spoke Chinese.

Speaker 1: 34:35

Oh.

Speaker 2: 34:36

It's like hey, if you want to learn the common tongue, you got to learn mandarin. It's like what? The common tongue is mandarin across space, like across multiple planets, like come on at least with star wars.

Speaker 1: 34:49

It's like they speak an alien language, but all the humans are british for some reason I know why?

Speaker 2: 34:57

why? Because, because the theme of empire Ah yeah, the great British empire.

Speaker 1: 35:05

Well, not humans, but bipedal, humanoid people, apes.

Speaker 2: 35:12

Apes, you can say it Bipedal humanoid apes.

Speaker 1: 35:16

There you go yeah. Humanoid, Also known as Bigfoot you're telling me bigfoot's a star war.

Speaker 2: 35:29

Yeah bigfoot is a star war good job.

Speaker 1: 35:33

Wow, I'm learning good job, billy.

Speaker 2: 35:39

Um, let's get down to the actual nitty-gritty, because I do want to talk about this for a while yeah, let's.

Speaker 1: 35:44

I mean, come on video games. Yeah, I mean, that's what we're. That's what we're here, we're really here to talk about. Yes, I don't have too many, but I know all of mine. You know what I mean. Yeah, I was looking through the list. I'm putting out things that sounded interesting and whatnot on my list and I got going through the movies in the, in the tv shows. I'm just like I've heard of it. Yeah, I kind of know what that is. Yeah, let's start with Valheim. Okay, valheim, it was fun to play. It really was. I just turned it on once because we moved on to other things.

Speaker 1: 36:19

The thing with Valheim is it's a commitment game because it's like Minecraft where, in order to get an experience, you got to play multiple times to fully find everything and do everything well, and it's like minecraft in the sense that it's open world and that you can build and be creative.

Speaker 2: 36:38

Different from minecraft because there is an actual story that you're supposed to try to do in the open world, roaming so, but the the concept of the story is that you're a viking who has died, but rather than going to valhalla, you're dropped in valheim. You're dropped into the realm of valheim which.

Speaker 1: 37:02

What is that in um, in viking myth um, is it kind of like a purgatory, like you kind of have to survive, to fight your way back to valhalla, um valheim, I don't know when you search it.

Speaker 2: 37:20

It came up with the game right well, no, I don't think it was one of the nine realms, the nine worlds of norse mythology, I think it was. I think they, they created it in addition, because the idea is that these seven demons, essentially, or monsters from the nine realms, have been banished to valheim and they're imprisoned in valheim, but they've been gaining power and they're trying to Valheim and they're imprisoned in Valheim, but they've been gaining power and they're trying to break free.

Speaker 2: 37:50

And that's in the game, or in the lore that's in the game. Okay, and so you're sent to Valheim by the gods to fight these seven monsters and earn your way into Valhalla. Yeah, earn your way into Valhalla, but to stop them from getting out of Valheim. And so you go around the map, um, and as you learn, you learn, or as you do, different things. That's what unlocks, like the. Oh, I remember this from when I was alive. So it's like, as you're playing and you're increasing in skill, the idea, the lore of the game is you're remembering your old life, gotcha.

Speaker 1: 38:31

On.

Speaker 2: 38:32

Midgard.

Speaker 1: 38:33

A lot of games kind of do that now, where you have gameplay elements and you kind of can just jump right in into the mechanics of the game and if you want to learn more about the world, you have to find, like secret, little you know, items. They could be anything from a scroll to an audio tape, depending on what kind of game you're playing, but it gives you a little bit of backstory about who you were. Yeah, and I think that's pretty neat where they'll hide lore stuff. So it's like I had no idea about this game. I played a thousand hours in that. This was what my character was. Backstory is, you know yeah, yeah, exactly so.

Speaker 2: 39:12

It is fun because it has the open world going around, it has the, you know, gathering materials, building structures, because in the game you do have to build defenses to fight against the different things like trolls and wolves and draugrs and different things it's funny because when we played, I think you had already had your base built, so I just kind of ran around the base because I had no idea what I was doing.

Speaker 1: 39:42

Yeah, and then you're like and then you're like, let's get on this boat. And we went somewhere and it was like and then you're like, let's get on this boat. And we went somewhere and it was like, hey, it's getting late, so let's get off. And I never turned it back on.

Speaker 2: 39:52

Yeah, and that was. The other fun thing is when it first came out, like it was promoted, like hey, play with your friends. Yeah enjoyable if you hunt together as vikings, if you fight together as vikings, if you know this, that and the other. But yeah, dude valheim, it was fun and we're sitting here talking about it.

Speaker 1: 40:13

I may have to redownload it and play I'm I'm willing, I'm willing to give it another shot, now that it's been like five years yeah, yeah they might have added a lot. Um, early access games that's what's great about them is like you might play them and it's like I bought this but I can't get rid of it, and then you'll turn it back on like five years later.

Speaker 2: 40:35

It's a completely different game yeah, I mean, I know right when I was getting off of valheim they were releasing a whole nother biome in the game.

Speaker 1: 40:48

I mean, look at Minecraft. They do it like all the time.

Speaker 2: 40:50

Yeah, so yeah, but yeah, dude, it's a pretty fun game.

Speaker 1: 40:59

No.

Speaker 2: 41:01

What's one of your big Viking games? Is it the weird mental lady game Do you want to talk about? That one we can talk about it.

Speaker 1: 41:11

Okay, so this game is so cool. It's so cool, dude, I'm sorry. So we're talking about Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice, yes, and so it's about a woman Viking who is trying to traverse the land to go to bury her husband, who fell in battle, correct, and you know he died, he was beheaded. So she's carrying around his head, trying to bury his head, I guess, in his homeland, that kind of thing. Yeah, I never finished it, so it's kind of like I'm not sure what the goal of it was, but the big thing is that she's been in so many battles, right, that she has PTSD. Ah, so she has mental problems because of what you know, what she's seen in her life, the things she's been through, and they portray that in the game.

Speaker 1: 42:11

By is highly recommended to wear headphones while playing the game, because they utilize 3d audio that you'll be playing the game yeah and then she'll start hearing voices in her head oh yeah, yeah, I remember, I remember because you, you had me put on the headphones and you just walk around and all of a sudden it's just like you'll be hearing, like in the distance, as you should, such someone, one of the best well designed sound audio games, design wise yeah, but you'll be walking around. It'll be like, oh, you can actually kind of like feel the distance of a bird right tweeting or or the wind blowing or a waterfall or or like an enemy kind of you see in the distance and then you'll hear literally you'll feel like it's in your head, dude, where somebody whispering like I know what you did to me and it's like her husband talking to like this stuff, like that.

Speaker 1: 43:00

It's such a cool game I'll never forget you. They have a sequel to it that came out fairly recently. I didn't play it, but it's a Hellblade Senua's Saga. But, dude, the game is so cool, like that's all. Like. I love when the game does something just so cool. You know what I mean. Like, does something, like it did more than just playing the game. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2: 43:24

yeah, I just downloaded that one. That's what that was um it. It it's not my cup of tea, but it it was it's cool, it's cool, it's cool, it's yeah, we gotta just honorable bring it up because it's not technically a viking game, but it is because it's not technically a Viking game, but it's a Viking game.

Speaker 2: 43:49

Skyrim Okay, I can see it's inspired, it's heavily inspired because, come on, they call them the Norse in the game and it's inspired by Norsemen in Scandinavia. So you know it's there. It may not be Viking in name name, but it's viking in appearance. So yeah, that's out there, you guys. Yeah, you know that it's out there and maybe one day we'll talk about it.

Speaker 1: 44:18

Jerry says nothing to contribute to that conversation because he doesn't play skyrim if they release a surprise re-release remake of skyrim, you'll play I might try it just like out of the blue, like they did with the. So what we're talking about is the game before skyrim, elder scrolls oblivion, oblivion 4 right, yes, and just like out of the blue. They're just like hey, uh, we, we're remaking elder scrolls oblivion to make it a more modern game yeah and you can buy it right now.

Speaker 1: 44:52

It's like I love it when games do that, like, just like I didn't know I wanted this, and now I really want this and I can get it oh, it feels so great. Even I got excited for it and I'm like I don't want to play it, but I got excited for it. And I'm like I don't want to play it, but I got excited just because of surprise.

Speaker 2: 45:08

We made you something you know, yeah, we played Elder Scrolls Online for a little while there.

Speaker 1: 45:14

Yeah, that was fun. I like a good MMO.

Speaker 2: 45:18

I'm a fan of an MMO.

Speaker 1: 45:21

When I first started playing that, I played with some friends and my friend's wife played Skyrimrim, but she played it like a single player game yeah so you know she would always get really engrossed in the world reading all the documents and all this stuff and take four hours to get through one little, you know cave yeah you know, because skyrim can do that to you. Yep. Well, when we started playing elder scrolls online, she started trying to do the same stuff and like we like we need our healer.

Speaker 2: 45:44

Get over here.

Speaker 1: 45:45

Yeah, so it was hard playing that when I first played, because it's like you need your group of people like your warrior, your tank and your healer when you go into a dungeon. In a dungeon and it's just like I'm over here reading the petals on this flower.

Speaker 2: 46:01

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 46:03

But yeah, it's fun. I do kind of want to get back into ESO at some time. That'd be fun. We could start characters over and do a stream we could.

Speaker 2: 46:17

What race would you be?

Speaker 1: 46:19

I don't remember what they are. I'll be the kitty cat, the kajit. I can see in the dark right yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2: 46:26

I would probably be a. Yeah, sure, I can see in the dark, right? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah, I would probably be a, whatever the Roman one is the imperial one, because I'm all about imperialism, imperialism, no, I don't know. I'd probably be a Viking, probably be a Norseman.

Speaker 1: 46:46

You want to talk about Assassin's Creed, valhalla? Sure, I've never played it, neither did I, but it's a really popular Viking game. Yeah, I played a lot of Assassin's Creed and then I got up to so they have like an overall story with a main character named Desmond and Desmond. Well, it's like they had Assassin's Creed, then Assassin's Creed 2 and then between two there was like five side games that all went through the story as well. It was like assassin's creed, revelations and renaissance, you know, just all these different games with different names in between them. There ends up being like that desmond story ends up being like seven games, jeez, and it's like, but it ends with three with his character. And then they got to get away from the whole going into a machine to go relive past lives, like they did.

Speaker 2: 47:34

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 47:35

And it was just like dropping you into just the world, yeah, and so I kind of fell off. After that there was a pirate one after three that I played and after that I was done. But then, like, after that, they start releasing these really cool ones, like they have assassin's creed odyssey, which is greek mythology, and then they had, you know, valhalla, there's one after um, there's one that takes place in egypt, so the egyptian mythology, and then they just release one that's like japanese mythology. I'm like this is so cool, why did I fall? But I don't want to get back into it. Yeah, I have too much other things to do. I know that if I get sucked back into the lore of this game franchise I'm not going to have any time to do anything else. It just makes me so mad that now you do all this really cool stuff.

Speaker 1: 48:24

Yeah, because the third one you played it was America and you played as a Native American assassin. America, wait what? Yeah, it was a Native American who got pulled into the Knights Templar Interesting, sorry, not the Templar, the Assassin's Guild. Okay, because I was going to say the Knights Templar.

Speaker 2: 48:44

The Templar was the enemy. The Templar was gone before America was founded.

Speaker 1: 48:46

guild, okay, because I was gonna say the knights to borrow, is the enemy was gone before america was founded? Well, no, according to the uh, the, this franchise, they've been here the whole time the knights templar yeah, the templars, the freemasons, whatever you want. Okay, freemasons, I was good well, they were referenced some in the game series as the templars, okay, the whole time, but I guess they kind of appear in different forms and names, but they're always the Templars.

Speaker 2: 49:08

I know that in the Freemasons you can become a knight. I don't know if they call them Templars, though I did.

Speaker 1: 49:18

Just now Got it.

Speaker 2: 49:20

Take that Freemasons.

Speaker 1: 49:22

But yeah, just Assassin's Creed, valhalla, and it's cool because you actually are like rowing your long ships into battle and it's huge massive battles that you go into, like Viking sieges and stuff. Yeah, it's really cool.

Speaker 2: 49:36

Yeah, dude, that was the most daunting thing in Valheim is when you got a boat and a sea serpent comes out of nowhere. Oh really, and you're like Ro.

Speaker 1: 49:48

Ro Ro and you turn around and there's nobody in the boat with you. Yeah, ro Ro, who you talking to Me?

Speaker 2: 49:55

Yeah, oh man, it's funny. But yeah, do you have any more games? So Elder Scroll or Elder Scroll.

Speaker 1: 50:10

Age of Mythology.

Speaker 2: 50:10

Rettold, I bet you would talk about this as a branch of the viking myths. So if you're into strategy games, age mythology has your viking fix for you. It's interesting because in okay, so depending on what nationality I guess or culture you pick, the gameplay is different. So, like for the Greeks, it's a pretty standard you raise villagers and they go out and collect resources and they build buildings and they gain favor at temples for you to be able to create mythological units. But for the Vikings, you create villagers or you can get dwarves to harvest materials, but they don't build buildings. You have to all of your infantry units construct buildings, wow, so they will do the fighting and the constructing and you gain favor as Vikings by fighting other people and that's how you get mythical units.

Speaker 2: 51:24

So that's the fun thing about Age of Mythology is because there's a different strategy depending on who you play, because they each do different things and they unlock different things and so, depending on how you want to attack the game, you have to use a certain strategy and you have to know that strategy for each decision you make. So it's pretty fun. Pretty, it's pretty fun, it's pretty neat. Uh, do you have any other?

Speaker 1: 51:52

I think I'm gonna go into my big one. Okay, do it, god of war god of war gods of.

Speaker 2: 52:04

God of wonders beyond your galaxy, you gotta finish it. You are holy. Now my one, oh sorry. May your hammer be mighty.

Speaker 1: 52:16

Now you can finish yours.

Speaker 2: 52:19

It's okay.

Speaker 1: 52:20

Have we ever talked about hot rod on this show?

Speaker 2: 52:23

We have to have.

Speaker 1: 52:25

At some point I feel like we haven't that might be a whole episode dedicated to that movie, because I feel like like there's like those type of comedies like napoleon dynamite and nacho libre. Hot rod is in that list of influential movies on our lives yeah, quotable slapstick humor yeah. We'll talk about that In some upcoming episode, maybe a mini bonus or something, but hot rod.

Speaker 2: 52:51

Maybe that will be An episode in the future when we talk about Slapstick comedy Movies. Yeah, oh, that's a good idea.

Speaker 1: 53:00

Anyways, okay, tell me about God of War Dude, god of War is such a good game. So the franchise right. Yes, it starts out as a uh, greek mythology story, kratos. The main character is kind of like a. He is thrown like he's a made-up character and kind of like later on it's kind of insinuated that it's an alternate timeline, that because he has intervened and started being part of this world, it is veered off the path of what the mythology is going to be.

Speaker 2: 53:35

Okay.

Speaker 1: 53:35

So you're living through these moments, but because he's intervened, so, like in the first game, you are a soldier for Ares the god of war, yep, soldier for Ares the god of war, yep, and he betrays you and he makes you, tricks you into killing your family, kratos, kratos' family, and so the whole game is about you going to find Pandora's box, to open it, to get the power to defeat Ares, becoming the god of war.

Speaker 2: 54:04

That's all you know, kind of like that first section god of war, that's all you know, kind of like that first section, god of war, which is a like spartan total warrior, totally steals that concept.

Speaker 1: 54:13

Yes, of you fighting for aries yeah, and then aries betrayed a hundred percent. Yeah, god of war did it first. But so it kind of leads up to by the end of what I call the first half of the franchise, he ends up killing all the gods because they go to war with him, with Kratos, and essentially putting the world in turmoil. That's kind of how that section ends. That third game ends, say, with the world in shambles, flooding fires, tornado, everything just over, but Kratos gets his victory. Kratos gets his victory and gets his victory. And it's kind of like okay, the game franchise is over. And then, like in 20, um, where's that? Yeah, uh, in like 2015. They announce here we go again. Like, here it is again like. It's just like. It's showing like a cabin.

Speaker 1: 55:05

The reveal is like one of the greatest video game reveals of all time, right, mm-hmm, where it's Kratos Sorry, it's like this boy like a little Viking boy prepping to go on a hunt oh, wee, little Viking boy. Yeah, and it's just like. And it shows his father talking to him in the corner and his father stands up and is Kratos dude, and it's just like I'm getting chills talking about. He's like we're going to hunt boy and it's kratos dude, and so it's like, so it's kind of insinuated that I mean it's not insane. It is that kratos, after he defeats the gods, he like he falls into like a flooding river and washes ashore, yeah, and then becomes part of the greek mythology in and kind of interrupting that world. And what's so great about the stark difference between the two games, right, yes, so they're both hyper-violent, you know what I mean. They are beat-em-up hyper-violent, but God of War.

Speaker 1: 55:57

So when I say God of War, this is the reboot franchise now Still continuing the story, but it reboots it. So God of War 2018 is so much more of a mature story slow, paced. You know. Where god of war one was kind of hyper violent, it was like, you know, you know, almost built for somebody who's like over violence. You know that kind of like let's rock and roll violence kind of thing. You know what I mean. This is so slow and mature and it's so great because kratos now has a son, uh, in the in the greek myth, like in the north mythology. Now he married I can't remember her name and it just starts there where he he married and he's going to go for. His wife's last wishes is that she wants her ashes spread on this mountain and is, and it's through the story. He's running into all these different greek mythology sorry north mythology's characters, and it's just like balder and uh, thor's sons and all this stuff and it's just, it's so good it, it's really just a fantastic game. He runs into the Acer, you say.

Speaker 2: 57:09

Yes.

Speaker 1: 57:09

And the Veneer Right, and then it's like and then it goes into God of War, ragnarok, and it just continues from there.

Speaker 2: 57:19

Ragnarok.

Speaker 1: 57:29

And it's just, you know. If you don't know what Ragnarok is, it's essentially the catastrophic event that destroys, destroys the Acer end of days into days. Yeah, yes, so it starts from there and it's just, it's such a great story with great characters.

Speaker 2: 57:37

Do you want me to uh, you want me to play a song yes, please about Ragnarok, as long as it doesn't flag us copyright-wise. Oh yeah, Well, I'm going to tell everybody just go listen to Ragnarok by what's the name of the guy that does the heavy metal Disney stuff.

Speaker 1: 58:00

I don't know, I'm not sure. Well, thanks for helping me out, but while you try to find it seriously, I'm not sure. Well thanks, but while you try to find it.

Speaker 2: 58:05

You're helping me out Seriously.

Speaker 1: 58:07

God of War and God of War Ragnarok are two some of the best storytelling in video games.

Speaker 2: 58:13

Peyton Parrish.

Speaker 1: 58:15

So go check out Peyton Parrish Parrish, parrishable items.

Speaker 2: 58:20

Parrishable items. Oh yeah, let's see if we get the seat, Like if that doesn't get your chills going.

Speaker 1: 58:30

And that's all you get. That's all you get Because we don't want to be stricken.

Speaker 2: 58:34

Stricken. But, yeah, his song is talking about Ragnarok. But Ragnarok, yeah, it's the Vikings' end of days, where Loki's sons or offspring attack the Aesir and kill them, and one of those is Jormagander, which is the world serpent.

Speaker 1: 58:57

Yeah, which isn't that Thor kills him in the Thor battles with him.

Speaker 2: 59:06

Yeah, Thor battles against him. I don't know if it's like a Thor wins, but yeah, when Ragnarok happens, he'll come up and it'll be. It's already been decided. Thor has to fight Jormungandr.

Speaker 1: 59:18

Yeah, so slight spoiler on Thor Ragnarok, or just Not Thor Ragnarok we didn't even talk about that movie at all or Thor, the Thor movies in general.

Speaker 2: 59:31

Yeah, we didn't.

Speaker 1: 59:32

They're good. They're all right, except for the fourth one, except the. What was the fourth one? Love and Thunder. Oh, you didn't like that. That movie was awful.

Speaker 2: 59:42

I thought it was all right.

Speaker 1: 59:43

Ragnarok was good though Thor Ragnarok was good though the War of Ragnarok, ragnarok was pretty good.

Speaker 2: 59:48

I don't know. It was kind of weird, like Ragnarok was good, but then the director, taika Waititi, he got on this really hard trip of like I'm going to do all the Avenger movies, yeah, like this.

Speaker 1: 1:00:13

They're gonna be super funny, they're gonna be comical and emotional and yeah, they did that like where it's like. Okay, I think thor, uh, thor ragnarok was a good blend of that comedy, while still sticking to thor being a great character, and love and Thunder went full comedy and just kind of bashed the character Thor, making him look like a piece of the old turd.

Speaker 2: 1:00:34

Yeah, because the first two Thor movies like Thor is. There's a little bit of humor to him, but he's a macho, yeah, macho man. But yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:00:45

then Ragnarok changes the character and then every movie after that he's just an emotional whirlwind yeah, he's just like well, I mean, dude, why would you take and make his hammer like sentient and make it like a relationship like it was sentient and in love with thor or something? Yeah, it's like talking about a breakup with the hammer, like it was sentient and in love with thor or something. Yeah, it's like talking about a breakup with the hammer. Like it was, it was dumb.

Speaker 2: 1:01:11

It was really dumb, it was just uh, yeah, it's just, it's a, it's an australian thing, I think. I don't know, I don't get it. Uh, anyways, yeah, so yarmagander and finn rear are the two apocalyptic characters that are children of Loki. One's a giant wolf, yep, and one's a giant serpent Yep, and the wolf, I think, kills the Aesir, and the serpent battles Thor, and I don't remember if Thor dies or what.

Speaker 1: 1:01:41

Yeah, in Thor Ragnarok, and sorry, god of War. In God of War Ragnarok you run into the giant snake. Oh, you do. Yeah, okay, and just kind of a spoiler on those games, because they're pretty old at this point and if you don't want to hear it, just skip ahead like 15 seconds. I'll be the quickest to say it. So here's your spoiler warning skip ahead in the games because they do that thing where Kratos being integrated into the world.

Speaker 2: 1:02:10

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:02:11

So his son, atreus, is actually Loki. That's how they do that. Oh, so you know that's still again. It's that cool of like an outside force, you know, meddling into a world that he shouldn't be in creates ripples and changes. So it's really cool, gotcha, all right, undo spoiler warning.

Speaker 2: 1:02:35

Yeah, that's pretty neat. Anyways, we need to wrap this up, we do. But, yeah, I think, do you have any closing statements on this? But yeah, I think Do you have any closing statements on this? I think my closing statement is there's something about the Viking, like vibe, that makes it entertaining, and I think it's because it produces a little bit of that carnal.

Speaker 1: 1:03:03

Just getting back to the basics Fighting Fighting, we fight and we survive and we thrive because we're fighting, yeah, and we're not relying on anybody else. That primitive thing of free spirit. Free spirit? Yeah, not in a hippie way, but not like a peace and love man. No, free spirit Like I'm going to fight and protect and provide for my family? Yeah, very, you know, manly kind of thing.

Speaker 2: 1:03:36

Yeah, and it could be. I think it's because the Viking epics are translated into these games and into these movies and shows, whereas a Viking like you go out and you fight against not only other people, but you fight against the unknown right, you know what I mean and and you're not afraid to, and so I think that that's very poetic and people hold on to that and they're like wow, that's exciting the people like the idea of being unbeatable, yeah or being able to defend themselves.

Speaker 1: 1:04:06

Like you don't feel like you're going to instantly lose, like your main character isn't going to instantly lose the fight that they're presented in.

Speaker 2: 1:04:14

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, those are my closing statements. I think that it's just a if you do it, if you do it the right way you can, you can get a good fan base for anything viking.

Speaker 1: 1:04:28

yeah, just gotta do it the right way yeah, my closing statement jesus man, jesus is better than vikings, you guys.

Speaker 2: 1:04:35

Yeah, because he will win every fight and you know what jesus is more metal than vikings god is doing it not that song god is doing a new thing.

Speaker 2: 1:04:46

Think about this Jesus dies as the perfect. He's a perfect atonement, right. He willingly offers his life up as atonement for all of humanity, all of creation. He dies and goes into the grave atoning all sin for humanity and is in the grave for three days. And it's believed that he goes and fights and conquers sin, death, hell in the grave, and so he's in battle for three-ish days and then resurrects in his own ability, resurrects from the dead and says I've won, he's there because he's like I'm going to fight but I can leave at any point, but I'm here to fight.

Speaker 2: 1:05:30

Yeah, yeah, I'm here to kick butt and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of bubble gum.

Speaker 1: 1:05:40

Also, by the way, real quick, we talked about that movie a couple weeks ago. Was it last week? Last week? Yeah, they Live, it's called they Live, they Live, yep.

Speaker 2: 1:05:49

Okay.

Speaker 1: 1:05:50

And real quick. Also, I was half wrong. You were half wrong and also half right. I said that movie was full, black and white. The movie was only black and white when he put on the sunglasses.

Speaker 2: 1:06:01

Oh yeah, because it's kind of like the infrared deal and that's where he could see he could see what they actually were.

Speaker 1: 1:06:06

They actually were, yeah, yeah so.

Speaker 2: 1:06:08

There you go, all right. Well, that's all we got for Vikings, guys, let us know in the comments what you think of Vikings. What's your favorite Viking media? Right, right, what's everybody out there doing? Gaming or watching, or whatever? So yeah, so yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:06:24

So, yeah, thank you for joining us on this episode 39 of the saints that serve podcast that's right and I say that Christ is King but Christ is also Lord and the kingdom is now. We are the saints that serve. Way to mess up.

Speaker 2: 1:07:14

Your only been doing it 39 times, 39 weeks, 50 plus bonus content, and you can't even remember how to do your own outro figure it out.