Speaker 2: 0:02

Welcome to the Saints that Serve, podcast where, each week, your hosts dive into the crossroads of faith, culture and the unknown.

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Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now. We are the Saints that Serve.

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Hey, welcome to the Saints that Serve. Podcast. That is the Saints that Serve podcast That's's right, where each week we bring riveting content that will entertain you and your family. This is episode 35 and we got a pretty entertaining lineup for you. This week we are going to be diving into the mysteries of piracy, piracy. And we're not talking about movies or music, no Well kind of in the cinematic universe, or realm, not universe, realm of cinema Kind of.

Speaker 1: 1:18

We personally, are not stealing things from the internet.

Speaker 2: 1:22

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:23

Though pirates do steal things.

Speaker 2: 1:26

Some may say they practice piracy of the great seas of the internet.

Speaker 1: 1:33

But the saint boys do not do that, we do not Anymore.

Speaker 2: 1:38

We're just going to talk about it. Anyways, if you need prayer, we want to pray for you. Feel free to reach out to us. There is a link at the bottom of this episode show notes. It takes you to a direct SMS messaging and basically you just text us. You text it to us, we get it. We'll pray for you. You can also email us at saintsthatsthatserve at gmailcom Not the which I think I messed up last week, it's fine, it's just SaintsThatServe at gmailcom.

Speaker 1: 2:11

That's right. One day that's going to come back to bite us. But you know what?

Speaker 2: 2:17

I already feel the teeth marks. That's weird, because nothing's bit us yet. Call it a hypersensation, hypersensitivity, we'll call it a spiritual foreknowledge. Anyways, my name's Johnny, and with me is my co-host, jairus, and we are the St Boaz, st Boaz, st Boaz, you know, I was thinking about it today in the car you drive. I do actually surprisingly. Today in the car Do you drive? I do actually surprisingly.

Speaker 1: 2:46

What's your driver's license number?

Speaker 2: 2:48

It is. No, I don't know, Mine's two, two, yeah, number two. I'm the second driver in the entire country. No, I was thinking about it and I don't think people like, if you haven't listened to the intro, you see the name as saints that serve and then you come and you listen to our content and we talk about movies, games and weird creatures and people are like how, what does this have to do with serving and being it or being a saint? So I just wanted to just bring it back up kind of at.

Speaker 2: 3:25

You know we're in the mid-30s plus bonus content. That's right. We're exactly middle of the 30s, exactly At episode 35, we're right in the middle. But just so you guys know, we do other things outside of the podcast that we try to bring glory to the Lord to, but the podcast's focus is to bring glory to the Lord to. But the podcast's focus is to bring Christian entertainment to people. We enjoy talking about movies, we enjoy talking about video games and board games and music and all things pop culture, but there's no one in that sphere of entertainment that is bringing glory to the Lord, and so we want to be those guys. We want to be able to talk about piracy, but then bring it back around and say, okay, so how can we build up the kingdom of God in this?

Speaker 1: 4:20

space, right? So yeah, that was the initial thought on. I brought it to you many moons ago at this point, many moons how I personally was getting very frustrated trying to find something in the entertainment side of podcasts, because I like video games, I like anime, I like movies, but typically they're talking about the topics that I want to hear about, but they bring a lot of their personal beliefs into it and it opposes my personal beliefs.

Speaker 2: 4:55

Yeah, and I feel that way too when we talk about if I listen to anything that has to do with board games or video games or movies like there's just not a real, it's very worldly and it's because a lot of that content is world focused and not Christian focused. But there is a turn. I see a change happening because of things like Angel Studios.

Speaker 1: 5:20

Which, if you haven't listened to our past episode, we talk about Angel Studios.

Speaker 2: 5:24

We do talk about angel studios, um, and we're not going to tell you the episode because we want you to go find it for yourself.

Speaker 1: 5:30

And also we don't remember it.

Speaker 2: 5:31

So uh, but yeah, there there's. I see a change coming.

Speaker 1: 5:38

I see Christian content that is genuinely entertaining for other people popping up and also on the other side of that, even if it isn't Christian content, it is becoming less and less focused on things that oppose God. I've noticed as well.

Speaker 2: 5:57

Yeah, yeah, for a little while there it was getting super, even in kids' entertainment, getting super duper. Sexuality focused, gender identity, gender identity, all that nonsense, nonsense, yeah, and it was across the board and it was like I feel like I'm going, I feel like I'm watching the same movie at every single thing I go to.

Speaker 1: 6:22

And every single one of those you just want to leave.

Speaker 2: 6:25

Yeah, and so it feels like it's starting to turn around a little bit. They're realizing that that stuff doesn't really sell in the general world.

Speaker 1: 6:34

So a quick little story here. So Marvel, marvel movies have in the past, especially last year, a couple of years, have been pretty focused on those kind of things Woke things, woke things. And this year, surprisingly, they seem to be getting back away from that. They're backing off, backing up, because I think they're realizing that the loudest voice is the people who are saying we want to see these things in these movies. We want to see these things, and it's not even their target audience. You know what I mean? Yeah, so like Captain America, brave New World. It wasn't the best movie, but there was nothing woke in it.

Speaker 1: 7:22

Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean Like it was poor. I told Ashley, my wife if you don't know my wife that it was an entertaining enough movie and if they move forward, yeah, with this being a starting point, it is actually looking fairly decent for Marvel. And so we went and saw Thunderbolts and it's the same thing. Yeah, there's nothing woke in it and it's actually a really good movie.

Speaker 2: 7:53

There you go. You heard it Just go pro-sleep, not pro-woke.

Speaker 1: 7:58

That's right. We all want to be asleep, that's right. Don't wake me up Before you go. Go, don't wake me up before you go.

Speaker 2: 8:08

Go anyways. Who's that darula? Was that jason? I don't know don't wake me up.

Speaker 1: 8:17

Don't wake me up I'm pretty sure it's true. Mine was uh, who did that? Don't wake me, wake me up before you go go. Yeah, whatever, whoever did that, whatever.

Speaker 2: 8:30

Yeah, I don't actually remember who that is either. Anyways, are you ready to dig into some piracy in the media?

Speaker 1: 8:40

format yeah, I'm ready to set sail on this Nice, nice format yeah, I'm ready to set sail on this.

Speaker 2: 8:46

Nice, nice, all right. So today we're taking a very specific route and talking about the one piece tv series on netflix, very specifically that very specifically, the live action.

Speaker 1: 8:57

So the reason why we want to very specifically talk about the live action is because how easily accessible it is if you have netflix. If you well, if you have netflix, I'm talking about getting into watching it. Oh yeah, it's a lot easier to watch eight one hour episodes than the like what 100 episodes they covered in the anime yeah, I'm looking back on this and thinking about how many episodes I watched in the anime and I'm like it's so much I shouldn't have watched how many I watched anyways.

Speaker 2: 9:33

Uh, the store okay. At the core of it though, regardless, because it is daunting. If you the anime version, there is a insane amount, I think, at this point.

Speaker 1: 9:43

The one piece anime is currently around 1200 episodes yeah, and they're 20 minutes a piece.

Speaker 2: 9:49

So you know it, it adds up, but the story inside of it is pretty entertaining and the character development is is good, it's really good. So you know, they took that existing because it's a manga and then they turned it into an anime and now Netflix is doing a live action version, but they're condensing it.

Speaker 1: 10:18

Yes, so what they covered, and so we'll be using the term arcs a lot. So if you don't know what that is, it's essentially a story being told where they're at a very specific location. It's one story arc, yep, but you can't really call it seasons, because a lot of sometimes because of how long and drawn out a lot of the stuff is in the anime. A story arc could cover hundreds of episodes, be covered within 100 episodes. Yeah, I think one of the newer arcs is like 300 episodes unreal. So what the netflix show did was is they took one arc and purposefully made it two episodes, and so they really condensed it. Anime is really famous. When they make live action adaptations of anime, they are trash Like Street Fighter Name, just any of them. This is actually one of the, if not the first one of the only anime adaptations that is universally beloved, yep.

Speaker 2: 11:24

So Like Avatar Last Air, universally beloved Yep. So Like Avatar Last Airbender? No, both times they messed it up so bad both times.

Speaker 1: 11:31

Yeah, two chances, so getting into it. What is the story of One Piece?

Speaker 2: 11:37

Yeah, so there's actually a lot.

Speaker 1: 11:43

What is the generalized? Yeah, because one piece is so dense in its lore so I personally watched it. Uh, condensed myself. Yes, there is a fan edit that cut down all of the fluff and the extra and all the filler that is in yeah the one Piece anime and cut it down to just the important stuff and it cuts out about overall four 500 episodes worth of time.

Speaker 2: 12:14

Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1: 12:15

It's called One Piece. If anybody wants to look it up, it's just a condensed, really well done, condensed version of One Piece.

Speaker 2: 12:22

And that's for the anime, and that's for the anime. Yes, really well done. Condensed version of one piece, and that's for the anime, and that's for the anime. Yes, but anyways, yeah. So the idea is it's this, it's this world that has it's most, I mean, like ours, it's mostly water. The best way to explain it is it's like an insane amount of islands in four different oceans, and then there's one strip of land that kind of wraps the globe, and then that's another ocean, that's another strip that kind of divides everything.

Speaker 1: 12:50

So the divide is the Grand Line and the main line circling. The other one is the Red Line, correct?

Speaker 2: 12:59

Yeah, so there's four oceans I think they just call them the different blues, and then there's the Grand Line, which is a small ocean that cuts through all of them and goes in a circle around the globe. And then there's an intersecting line that goes that kind of makes like a cross, and it's called the Red Line. It's a landmass that loops around as well. So I put all that out there for everyone to understand that the world is mostly water and everyone's traveling around on boats.

Speaker 2: 13:31

And the intro to the series is there's already a bunch of lore and history that's happening, but we're entering in at a point that's called the Grand Pirate Era, which was started by a notorious pirate that was called the king of the pirates. He had a massive treasure that he hid and he that is called the, that is called the one piece, wow and he challenges everybody to go out and find it and at the moment of his execution at the moment of his execution and At the moment of his execution, and so the One Piece is following a specific group of characters who are led by a guy named Monkey D, luffy Mm-hmm, and Luffy is the main character.

Speaker 2: 14:20

And he's a very charismatic, always positive, no-nonsense kind of guy, like well, let's just do it. No nonsense, he's all nonsense, well, I mean. But I mean like he doesn't slow down to think things through. It's either just yes or no with him.

Speaker 1: 14:40

He is our happy-go-lucky, spry main character.

Speaker 2: 14:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah so, but it's about him.

Speaker 1: 14:49

And the series pretty much starts off with him saying I am now going to go on my pirate adventure. To go look for the One Piece I'm going to, yeah, and his dream, sorry. And to become the king of the pirates, yeah.

Speaker 2: 15:03

So there's an understanding by everyone in the world that whoever finds the one piece becomes the next king of the pirates, and so everyone's looking for this notorious treasure or infamous treasure, I should say. And so Monkey D Luffy decides that he's going to be the king of the pirates, so he's out to look for the treasure for the one piece. He's going to be the king of the pirates, so he's out to look for the treasure for the one piece, and along the way he meets different individuals that also have dreams that are grand and outrageous.

Speaker 1: 15:33

Most of them very young also.

Speaker 2: 15:36

Yeah, I think our oldest character is Robin, who we won't even really get into story-wise. No, or is it Frankie? The oldest one would be Frankie. Frankieie then? No, no, it would be um it would be, uh, is it jimba? No, what's his name?

Speaker 1: 15:55

oh, brooke, yeah, brooke yeah brooke's, technically the oldest right, but we're, we're, we named. Like it's way too far, like there's so many pirate crew members on there that we won't even touch on or see. Like Frankie doesn't show up until like episode 400 something, yeah, yeah. So it's like and that's what's great, it's like you'll run into these characters and they'll just and yeah, we're going to be part of the crew, now that kind of thing, you know.

Speaker 2: 16:23

Yeah, and yeah, we're going to be part of the crew, now that kind of thing, you know. Yeah, so, but each individual he comes across, they have this crazy dream and Luffy believes in the dream and believes in them Because they aspire to something, because they, yeah, and so he kind of like champions them and like he's like, hey, like, come on, join my crew.

Speaker 1: 16:48

Let's do it and a lot of times a he's not asking. He's saying come on, you're my crew member now yeah and um.

Speaker 2: 16:53

So in the live action adaptation before we get into that, something that's very important to go over is what the devil fruit is oh, okay, so in this, because that is a huge plot point to the show, yeah, yeah, in this show there, or in this universe, there is these things called devil fruits and translated from japanese, so not the literal satan fruits.

Speaker 1: 17:23

No, it's more of like a.

Speaker 2: 17:25

The reason why they call it devil fruit is because it's more of a curse than a gift that's the idea, because anyone who eats the fruit, they're they're given an ability that is not human right, but they can no longer swim in the water.

Speaker 1: 17:39

They automatically sink in a world full of water, they just lose, instantly lose all consciousness, essentially, and just can't do anything when they're in water yep, yeah, there was a.

Speaker 2: 17:53

There was an episode where luffy fell into the ocean and a couple of people started freaking out and two people jumped in to save him and both of them were devil fruit, so they both started sinking Right and they get them all on the boat. And one of the characters was like next time when you want to go save someone, let someone else do it.

Speaker 1: 18:17

Because wasn't it? I know what you're talking about. Who was it that jumped in after him?

Speaker 2: 18:21

It was Brooke and Chopper. They both have devil fruit power.

Speaker 1: 18:28

they both know they can't swim, and it's always funny but they're just like, oh, we're gonna save luffy, and they jump in and sink so it's always funny because like the ivory fruit is like the same word twice and that's their what describes what power they're going to get. So Luffy eats the gum gum fruit and he becomes a rubber man. So the best way to explain it is he's Mr Fantastic.

Speaker 2: 18:55

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 18:56

It's not quite the same thing, but he's Mr Fantastic, super duper, stretchy, mm-hmm, yeah, so getting back onto it. So the beginning of it, first couple episodes, it's Luffy setting off.

Speaker 2: 19:10

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 19:11

And he meets a young boy named Kobe Cody. Kobe, kobe. Thank you.

Speaker 2: 19:18

Yeah, yeah, who also has a dream?

Speaker 1: 19:21

Mm-hmm. Which that's important is he wants to become part of the Marines, yep, and the Marines are obviously the police opposing piracy.

Speaker 2: 19:32

Yeah, they are the military facet of the government, which is the world government.

Speaker 1: 19:40

Right, okay, so we're going to be talking about a lot of stuff. It's just, it's insane how deep the lore is. Yeah, where I stopped watching the anime. No, I haven't got back onto watching it, it's been a while. Is there's so much in hinted at lore? And it's still technically early on, early on in the show, like they hint at pirate lords, they hint at like ancient treasure that everybody's trying to hide. Yeah, like this, all this like history of like. Like there's like an entire like portion of history that's just no one knows what happened in a hundred years of history that's missing and there's just, like at the face of the show it is looks like a children's show yeah it's really not it's not.

Speaker 1: 20:24

It's so deep in this lore it's insane.

Speaker 2: 20:26

Yeah, and just so we're clear, the anime is definitely not a children's show. Mm-hmm. There is blood, there is language and there is loot stuff. It's not as bad at the beginning like earlier on, but as you progress I mean we talked about this earlier I had to stop watching somewhere around the. Well, I said I made it to Marineford Arc, which I'm not that far. No, but really I should have stopped like two arcs before. But I kept on going saying like, oh, it'll get better. Oh, this is just a one-off, we'll get through all this stuff and it yeah. So it got a little too much for me personally and my personal convictions, but I cannot deny the story is good.

Speaker 1: 21:15

Yeah, it's wild for me to see you say what I consider one of the very most anime animes and you, on your own, went out and watched it because of the Netflix show.

Speaker 2: 21:29

Yeah, so just to be clear, the reason I started watching the anime is because I really liked the live action adaptation that Netflix did Mm-hmm. So yeah, it's good, it's good, it's good it's good, it's good.

Speaker 1: 21:44

But so do you want to kind of get into that and just kind of explain the different arcs and the characters we meet, just kind of get into the the show yeah, let's do it. So it starts with, uh, the romance dawn arc right, which is the uh, the meeting of luffy yep, and that's when he meets kobe yep, and then he also runs into. I don't remember her name, but she's the overweight, oh overweight, the really fat woman oh yeah, I can't remember her name yeah, which is wild because she comes back later and she's not fat anymore.

Speaker 1: 22:19

Weird because she well, she ate a devil fruit that made her skinny. It was called the smooth, smooth fruit.

Speaker 2: 22:23

Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 1: 22:25

So you kind of go through that, and that was really short. I think a lot of stuff happens in the first episode of the Netflix show that kind of covers a bunch of different arcs, yeah, so Luffy— or not arcs, but plot points.

Speaker 2: 22:40

Yeah, luffy sneaks aboard this ship ship and the captain is this overweight pirate lady that we can't remember her name. But kobe is on the ship as a cabin boy, but he doesn't want to be on the ship, he was forced to be there, he was pressured to be there. His desire is to become a marine. And so he meets luffy and luffy's like well, just go for it, that's your dream, just do it. And then he beats up on everybody on the ship to get off the ship. Luffy does, luffy does.

Speaker 1: 23:08

And then brings Kobe with him and takes Kobe with him, and from there they go to the closest Marine fort and there they find Zorro A man, yeah, zorro Tied up at a post and it's Zorro, one of my favorite characters, runanora, zorro Mm-hmm. And so they free him, and the Marine captain that's staying at that fort is actually kind of a tyrant, yep. And they defeat him. He gets arrested, and Kobe and the Marine captain's son, el Gop oh no, geez, el Hippo, or something like that, mel Hippo.

Speaker 2: 23:53

I feel like it's not El, it's like a Gippo, or-.

Speaker 1: 23:57

Yeah, something like that, a Gippo or so, his son being a spoiled brat kind of trying to help his father. At the end of it, him and Kobe join another marine ship to become better marines and Zorro leaves, and I guess this is where it's a little weird. El Meppo, el Meppo. Yeah, so we also run into on the Netflix show which is this Is Not the Case, if I'm not mistaken. Maybe I'm remembering it poorly, but they also run into a woman named nami who is a thief, the at the fort, yeah, at the port, and so luffy convinces zoro and nami to join his pirate crew yes, like they, they commit to it.

Speaker 1: 24:46

But it's clear that nami has ulterior motives which nami is kind of for, at least for the first season of the net of the live action, is kind of the main focal point of the overall overall story that we're looking at in these episodes. Yeah, so she is a uh, she's a thief. She is a thief trying to really steal money and maps, correct, and so they travel on to you know, they join together and they travel to Orange Town where they meet the liar, the liar. So that is Usopp. Yes, yeah, it is Usopp. Yes, yeah, it's Usopp. He's a long-nosed sniper, but he likes to use it as a sniper A slingshot, a slingshot, sniper.

Speaker 2: 25:33

Which throws me off every time, Mm-hmm. But you know, to each his own.

Speaker 1: 25:38

That's fine, mm-hmm. And we kind of skipped over Luffy's past with Red Hair Shanks.

Speaker 2: 25:45

Yeah, a little bit, but I mean there's not a whole lot in there besides that. He really looked up to red hair shanks as a role model and you know red hair shanks gave him a hat and he's like, hey, hold on to this.

Speaker 1: 25:58

Well, that's important because he says it's a straw hat and he's like take care of my hat and luffy. That's like his most prized possession is this straw hat straw hat.

Speaker 2: 26:06

So, and it's so much so that the entire pirate group is known as the straw hat pirates because of his hat, right, so it's so iconic.

Speaker 1: 26:18

so nonsense goes down and usopp joins the crew. But they don't have a pirate ship. No, but Usopp. There's a girl in the town that Usopp always goes to and tells these grand stories to, but they're always lies, yeah, always, always lies. And so there's a butler in her house who plans on killing her, the girl.

Speaker 2: 26:44

Yes.

Speaker 1: 26:44

So that he can inherit her fortune correct and like it's kind of revealed that he was poisoning her slowly and making her sick and all this stuff yeah and so, finally, when usopp learns the truth about this guy and goes to try to tell this truth about this butler, no one believes him because he's a liar. Is? He's literally the boy who cried wolf embodied in this anime? Yeah, that he was taking his, because it's revealed that he's a actually a secretly a pirate and he was embedded in here to try to get this fortune from this girl. The butler was the butler was not usopp, not usopp. So he has his pirate crew waiting and they're going to storm the, the island and it's such a great scene of Usopp and Nami and Zoro and Luffy all defending the island.

Speaker 2: 27:31

Yeah, but that's in the anime.

Speaker 1: 27:34

In the live action. Oddly enough, this was probably my only complaint is how it kind of turned into a horror movie and they were chasing them like individuals a few individuals inside the mansion at night yeah, yeah, totally different from how it went down in the anime, whereas, like, in the middle of the day, there's this entire pirate crew that's raiding the island.

Speaker 2: 27:58

You know, totally different but still pretty entertaining. But they, they end up defeating him and out of a gesture of appreciation, which, again, this is important.

Speaker 1: 28:08

Yeah, the girl gifts them with a ship the Going Mary.

Speaker 2: 28:14

The Going Mary which has a sheep's head at the front of it.

Speaker 1: 28:19

All because another one of her butler type dudes wears a sheep's hat. So his name is Mary and they name it. His name is mary and they name it after him for some reason.

Speaker 2: 28:28

Yeah, I believe that it he's like.

Speaker 1: 28:31

He's not a butler, he's kind of like an accountant for the family he handles the family's money right, and it's crazy because in the live action another weird thing they they kill him off, yeah, like just for some reason, like very quickly, they just kill him off, yeah, and but the entire ship is named after this minor character. Yeah, yeah, so whatever. You know, so they leave this island and then they go to probably one of the cooler arcs in here, which is where they go to probably one of the cooler arcs in here, which is where they go to Beratier, the Beratier.

Speaker 2: 29:10

Yeah, yeah, which is a restaurant ship. It's a ship that's a restaurant that floats around and it's home to a bunch of misfit cooks and chefs who like to fight and cook Mm-hmm, who like to fight and cook and their head chef is a former pirate captain who mastered the art of the kick.

Speaker 1: 29:33

Because they don't want to damage their hands, because they use their hands to cook.

Speaker 2: 29:37

A chef's hands are sacred and reserved for preparation of food Right, and so they can't use them to fight with, so they got to use their feet, is the understanding. So, anyways, so he's known, as I don't remember what his name is, but he's known for his fighting style, his unique feet. Only it's Chef Zef. Chef Zef, but he has a young man who's a sous chef on his restaurant.

Speaker 1: 30:11

His name is Sanjay Sanjay.

Speaker 1: 30:14

Sanji Sanji, and he is always smoking a cigarette Always, unless you're watching the four kids version of One Piece. He has a lollipop in his mouth. I didn't know that there was the four kids version of one piece. He's has a lollipop in his mouth. I didn't know that there was a four kids version, so we can get into this. It's one of the worst adaptations of one piece where, like, I don't know how far they got into it, but they heavily, heavily edited things out like the marines who carried like rifles have water guns and characters who are smoking have lollipops in their mouths.

Speaker 2: 30:47

I don't know, I kind of want to watch this one now. Yeah, that sounds like my speed.

Speaker 1: 30:51

There you go. It's that kind of stuff. They take out a lot of weird stuff, yeah, the adult stuff. When somebody gets punched in the normal anime you know they just get hit, and in the four kids dub it shows the word pal on the screen. I love it. There you go.

Speaker 2: 31:11

I'm all about it, oh man.

Speaker 1: 31:18

But yeah. So Sanji has another one of those crazy dreams. He wants to find. What is it called? The all blue, the all blue blue, where all four oceans meet at one point and they and that's where where you essentially you can, as a chef and a fisherman can find all of the different fish in one place in the world, all the different delicacies.

Speaker 2: 31:35

Yep, uh, and that's also. At that point is when zoro's dream is revealed he wants to become the greatest swordsman.

Speaker 1: 31:45

Mm-hmm. And ironically, who shows up on the boat? At the same time he reveals his dream, the greatest swordsman, uh, hawkeye, me hawk hawkeye, me hawk which this was very dumbed down in the live action, yeah where they had don craig. Yeah, he didn't even show up. So, ironically, though they show me hawk in the live action, they show me hawk killing don craig. Oh yeah, I forgot that For like a split second and then Mihawk goes to Baratie. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1: 32:18

But in the anime Mihawk shows up. They have an altercation with Mihawk. Mihawk leaves. Then Don Craig shows up to try to take over the boat. It's a floating boat, Restaurant, Restaurant and trying to take it over because all of their crewmen are starving.

Speaker 2: 32:39

They're starving and their boat is about to sink.

Speaker 1: 32:42

Follow the book, yeah.

Speaker 2: 32:44

Yeah, so they're trying to take over the restaurant to eat all the food and commandeer the ship.

Speaker 1: 32:50

But their big thing on the ship is because of Sanji's backstory with Chef Zef. Yeah, is that they will feed anybody who's hungry because of things that they went through.

Speaker 2: 33:03

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 33:04

Which is like one of the saddest to me. One of the saddest moments in the show is where Sanji has a young kid. Like they're stranded on the island and like Sanji eats all his food and thinks that Chef Zef has all this food for himself. He's like, well, I'm just going to go kill Chef Zef and take all his food. Yeah, and it's revealed that Sanji, they draw out the food for like a hundred days and he runs out of food on the hundredth day. Yeah, and he goes to go steal Zef's food and it's revealed that zeff never had any food at all. Yeah, and he cut off his leg and ate it. And that's how he survived, because he gave the young boy all the food yeah, yep heart-wrenching, so that was, like this, really nice moment.

Speaker 1: 33:52

That's why sanji stayed with zeff and learned how to be a chef, so that people can no longer go hungry.

Speaker 2: 33:59

Yep, and apparently he's a pretty good chef he is a very good chef.

Speaker 1: 34:04

So there you go. Except, he's a bit of a lecherous man. I don't know what that means. What is it, womanizer?

Speaker 2: 34:11

Oh, yes, yes, I guess you could say aspiring, because it doesn't really work out for him a whole lot.

Speaker 1: 34:17

No, he's all like anytime he sees a pretty lady he has to like go after her.

Speaker 2: 34:22

Yeah, he becomes mush, he like becomes a slave, he's like I'll do anything you want me to do.

Speaker 1: 34:27

Sick. So that arc goes through. You know, they fight. They fight in the okay. This is what's weird, yeah, they fight in the okay, this is what's weird, yeah. So just to tie in the next arc, in the live action the fishmen show up, which doesn't happen in the anime. Wait, they show up at the Baratie, yeah, in the live action. Oh, and then Nami goes with them because it's revealed that Nami is actually part of this gang, yeah, she's a part of the Arlong pirates, Mm-hmm. And so she goes with them. And then they, Luffy and the gang, go after her because you know, she's one of us kind of thing.

Speaker 2: 35:12

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 35:12

Which happens a lot, I feel like in the show.

Speaker 2: 35:14

Yeah, people are like I don't want anything to do with you, I'm leaving, and they leave the crew, crew.

Speaker 1: 35:24

And then luffy's like no, no, no, you're not, no, they they actually want to be here, so we need to go help them out, right? So, and that you know the big, you know. Finale of that is they go to arlong park, which is another island. Yeah, and it's revealed that Arlong essentially took over this island. He's a fish man, yeah, who takes over this island, and is you know.

Speaker 2: 35:43

Which, for people who need to know, they are a race of individuals. They're a hybrid, half fish, half men and they're from a place called Fishman Island, where it's also the home of mermaids. So mermaids and fishmen live on Fishman Island. Correct and Arlong and his crew are all fishmen. So they're all different kinds of fish. Men, they're humanoids and some one of them is an octopus.

Speaker 1: 36:14

You know, some of them have shark features, some of them have swordfish features, just different things, but nami throws her hat in with them it's because when they came into and took over the island, nami and her sister adopted sister were being, were adopted by this woman whose name is man I I can't remember it, it's not on my notes either, but it's. You know. Nami's mother, adopted mother Essentially they were having you know Arlong would come along and say, you know, came and said this is the price you have to pay per head or I'll kill you. And Nami's mom said here's all the money I have, bellamere, bellamere, bellamere, yes. Essentially says this money is for my two daughters and this is all I have. And they kill her.

Speaker 2: 37:08

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 37:09

And to try to get money. Nami goes and joins Arlong's pirates, trying to protect her family and to earn enough money to buy the island and the island's freedom.

Speaker 2: 37:19

Yeah, to buy back the island from Arlong.

Speaker 1: 37:22

Who just came in and took it over, yeah, and so having some of the best moments, I think, in that arc.

Speaker 2: 37:29

Yeah, and that's where it's discovered that Nami's dream is to make a map of the entire world. So she's a navigator and she's fascinated with maps and map making, and so Luffy wants her to be his navigator, and when she finally joins the crew, it's to be the navigator to make a map of the world Right. One large map, accurate map. One large, accurate map, including every island on the Grand Line and in the other ocean.

Speaker 1: 38:01

So another major point that we kind of skimmed over is that the Grand Line is some of the most dangerous like getting from one island to another is almost impossible type situation. Because you have to have a special like compass and all this stuff and a lot of people, it's just impossible almost to go from one place to another in the Grand Line. And they're trying to go through the whole Grand Line and map it out is what Nami wants to do.

Speaker 2: 38:28

Yeah, yeah, on their quest to find the One Piece, the One.

Speaker 1: 38:33

Piece. So yeah, they go in. And you know, luffy goes in and just beats the ever-loving snot out of Arlong and it's such a good fight.

Speaker 2: 38:44

Yeah, it is good, usopp gets into a fight and actually wins, actually wins, and Zoro and Sanji I can't remember in the live action if they actually fight.

Speaker 1: 38:55

They just took on where, us, where. So our usopp runs off, yeah, and one chases after him and he beats the one.

Speaker 2: 39:03

Yeah, and sanji and zoro beat like a hundred of them, yeah yeah, which is like that's the normal for the show, reoccurring all the time. It's reoccurring all the time. It's luffy, sanji and zoro are all the heavy hitters who go in and do mass damage, and then nami and usopp are just kind of there. They're kind of there and they even like I mean, they even point it out in the show they're like we're not the big tough ones, like we're the survival one, we're the cute survival ones.

Speaker 1: 39:39

You guys do usopp is always like lying, saying he's the captain. You know that kind of stuff. Yeah, and it's sad because they don't show it in the season one, but usopp ends up having an incredible redemption story arc to a degree with him on Water 7. Oh yeah, but that's like much later. That's going to end up being probably the equivalent of season three or four if they end up going that far with the live action. Yeah, because they do so. They only do that much on the Netflix live action After Arlong. That's the end of it.

Speaker 1: 40:17

That's all the content they have yeah and it's just so much more like they barely for one season, they barely covered anything in one season.

Speaker 1: 40:29

They haven't even made it into the grand line yet yeah, in this, most of the stories happening in the grand line, right, and in this they haven't even made it to the grand line. Yeah, uh, I think I kind of did some math in my head with the story arcs and whatnot. Yeah, it would probably take 15 seasons for them to catch up to where they're at in the anime. Oh, really, yeah, it's, it's a lot. Yeah, I don't think they'll ever get that far, but they have enough content, enough source material to do it.

Speaker 2: 40:58

Yeah, and so we talked about character development. That's the enjoy, I think, the part that I enjoy in the series, I mean in the anime, because the live action we only have one season. But in the anime, as the story progresses and as they get further, and with each arc that they go to, with each arc, they meet an impossible villain for where they're at and it forces them to go the next step to where they get, to the point to where they're. So all of them, including usopp and nami, they're all so overpowered that to the average person now, they are way above them yeah, it's.

Speaker 1: 41:40

It's really well written in the way that even the weakest of the characters have development and become incredibly strong yeah, and I, I think that uh, what is the name of his character, like who he disguises himself as, because he was too proud of himself to apologize. Oh, sniper King, sniper King.

Speaker 2: 42:01

Yeah, usopp creates a character so that he can still hang out with his friends and not because he gets upset and quits the pirates for a little bit. He leaves the pirates in the Water 7 arc because of a disagreement, a big disagreement. But he wants to help.

Speaker 1: 42:21

So he creates a character called sniper king and wears a wears a mask it's so funny because I saw uh, I saw a meme that was just like I don't see usopp, all I see is sniper king. Because the joke is it's obviously usopp and everybody knows it's usopp, but luffy in anime.

Speaker 2: 42:38

He's got an outrageously long nose and in that phase when he's pretending to be Sniper King, he cuts a hole in the mask so that his nose will fit through it, so he can wear it. So it's very obviously Usopp, but Chopper and Luffy are fully convinced that it's usopp's friend, sniper king yeah, which sniper king just says hey, usopp asked me to come help you, yeah and they're like oh cool oh cool, thanks that. Uh. Yeah, everyone else on the crew is like it's obvious it's obvious why don't you just apologize.

Speaker 2: 43:13

Well, they all say to each other just let let him have this, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 43:16

The irony of it is is the guy in the did you watch it sub or dub? Did you watch it English or Japanese? When you watched the anime English? Okay, the guy who voices Usopp, who is kind of considered as, like, the useless character he's really not, but he's kind of considered that he also voices Krillin in Dragon Ball Z, who's also considered the useless character who always dies. That's funny. So this guy, he's just like he has that very distinct voice. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 43:48

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 43:49

And another fun fact is the guy who voices Zoro voices All Might, essentially Superman in my Hero Academia.

Speaker 2: 43:59

Okay.

Speaker 1: 44:01

So it's like it's funny how these actors who do these voices usually tend to do similar characters. Well, they got the voice for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to AWA one year and they had Christopher Sabat there, the guy who voices Zorro.

Speaker 2: 44:14

Oh cool.

Speaker 1: 44:14

Yeah and All Might. He's like one of the big heavy hitters in the anime dub like career path, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 2: 44:24

That's pretty neat. That's pretty neat. It's pretty neat. Well, but I mean, you know, we've thrown a bunch of information out.

Speaker 1: 44:31

I know it ended up us just nerding out over this anime because this, this anime is old. I mean you have to be when you have 1200 episodes.

Speaker 2: 44:41

Yeah, the it started airing the. The anime started airing in 1997 I believe it's 97. Yes, but he's the oda the creator. He started the manga before that, but when he started all of this, he had the direction that he wanted to go before he started.

Speaker 1: 45:01

Yeah, I believe he said he knew where he wanted it to end when he started writing it.

Speaker 2: 45:04

Yeah, he had it outlined. It's just he keeps on adding things as they go. That's why it's drawn out so long is because he keeps on adding stuff to the overall story, stuff to the overall story, but I okay. So side note about oda, because I don't know if this is legit, but if it is, it's sad to me. Supposedly he only sleeps like three to four hours a night and he only sees his family once a week because Because he's always working on his he's always working on his manga for the one piece. I'm sorry, but it's not worth it, it's too much. Yeah, he's so devoted to this manga that he's made this story that he devotes most of his life to it, and he's got a family and he only sees them once a week. He's got to spend the rest of the time working on this. So if that's true, I'm like man, that's not cool, it's not worth it. It's not worth it. You can't create the greatest story and neglect your family.

Speaker 1: 46:11

I have watched videos on the cultural, like working, life of Japanese people. Yeah, and that's true, it's that they work all day. They work themselves to death enough to get home, to eat something, to go to bed, to get up and keep doing it again for like a couple hours. It's like the culture is work hard until you die, kind of feeling to me.

Speaker 2: 46:36

And you wonder why there's a population decrease in the country. Everyone's so obsessed with working that they're not they're not having kids and raising families.

Speaker 1: 46:47

So something about one piece, right? Yeah, do you have anything else to say? I feel like I interrupt you there. I'm sorry. No, no, okay, good, so the thing about one piece is it's considered one of the greatest anime of all time.

Speaker 2: 46:58

Yeah, apparently it's sold the most mangas. It has sold the most copies in Japan.

Speaker 1: 47:12

And I think it's like number two for most copies sold overall in the world. I think Demon Slayer is number one, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2: 47:15

I think that. No, the thing I was looking at was like in the world is, superman has sold the most well, not comics, manga oh, in manga, demon slayers number one.

Speaker 1: 47:27

But in in comics or that you know media.

Speaker 2: 47:32

So if you don't know what manga is, mama, manga is essentially japanese comics yeah, but it but it's really up there, it's really big in Japan, in the world, I mean, yeah, in the world. It is quite large, which, when I got into this, I did not realize that it was as big as it is until I started watching it and I was like there's a lot, there's a lot to this. Huh Okay, and I was like there's a lot, there's a lot to this.

Speaker 1: 48:00

Huh, okay, so I was wrong. So One Piece is the highest selling manga, don't doubt, dragon Ball is up there, don't you doubt me? Demon Slayer is on that list, though, okay.

Speaker 2: 48:13

What is your favorite anime?

Speaker 1: 48:17

Oh man. So the problem, problem, not problem. But the thing about anime is there's so much out there that it's hard to re-watch, something like where people say, oh, the office is my favorite and they re-watch it. I'm always constantly watching something new yeah but what's?

Speaker 1: 48:37

your nostalgic anime dragon ball z. There we go. I was about to say dragon ball z is probably one of my favorite. Yeah, yeah, one piece. It one piece was something I didn't get into until fairly recently. Yeah, dragon ball z I've watched since I was. That's not true, because you.

Speaker 2: 48:52

I remember as weird that I remember this, but I remember seeing a picture of you at was it MomoCon AWA, awa, dressed up as Luffy.

Speaker 1: 49:03

So I was in my higher like 25, 26, 20s then, yes, that was around when I got into watching One Piece. Oh, okay, within the last 10 years where Dragon Ball Z I've been watching since I was five, gotcha.

Speaker 2: 49:17

I'm old guys and me. I never really watched an anime until.

Speaker 1: 49:24

One Punch man right Was your first one.

Speaker 2: 49:26

Well, yeah, yeah, first Japanese one, because technically I think Avatar is an anime, it's just an American one. American anime.

Speaker 1: 49:36

We can argue about this later. Okay, I don't consider Avatar an anime. We can argue about this later. Okay, I don't consider Avatar an anime. Okay, it's a cartoon, sorry.

Speaker 2: 49:41

But Sorry yeah, then I guess it would be One Punch, which is just so funny. It's such a great show, it's so funny, mm-hmm. I thoroughly enjoy it.

Speaker 1: 49:54

You know there's some stuff that we could do without, but for the most part it's funny one that's really great and it really doesn't have any of that inappropriate lewdness that sometimes comes with anime, because unfortunately animes will throw in and not to like lure anybody into sin, but more as a comical thing they'll do lewd stuff or inappropriate there's something about the japanese culture that it's a niche that fits in and everybody's okay with it.

Speaker 2: 50:25

In a weird way, yeah, but it just doesn't translate over to bible belt south right, it doesn't. It makes me uncomfortable. I mean, you know, if I, if I wasn't a believer, I'd probably be like I would obviously pick up on it and be like, oh well, that's kind of S word, s word. I didn't want to say that. Oh, I didn't want to say it Got it.

Speaker 1: 50:51

Okay, not a cuss, not a cuss, not a cuss. A three-letter word Okay, cuss. A three-letter word, no, no. Okay, four letter, but with that being said, something that doesn't have that in it, and it's really good is demon slayer, but no, it's just funny the name I know and the name is a little off-putting in that sense yes, but they are literally slaying these.

Speaker 1: 51:14

they're more like ghouls or goblin type things sort of, but it's just like overpowered monsters that like they giant. No, they're just normal, they're just, they're superhuman monsters. They call them demons, yeah, but there's like a like group of secret organization swordsmen who go after the demons to try to rid them of the earth. Got Gotcha and it's like some of the best animation that you see in anime. Yeah, and that's about to end. Soon they're going to have three movies coming out on their final story arc and the first movie comes out this year, nice.

Speaker 1: 51:56

That's kind of like Blade. Blade would be kind of a closer way of putting it For those of you who are in the Marvel world.

Speaker 2: 52:05

Blade. Is the live-action version or the American version of Demon Hunter?

Speaker 1: 52:12

Sort of, but it's not the same thing. Demon Slayer, it's not Demon Slayer. I think you'd actually really enjoy Demon Hunter. Demon Hunter is a heavy metal Christian band. Yes, I think you'd really enjoy Demon Slayer. All right, I might that. Or Attack on Titan Maybe Attack on Titan's really good. It's like German culture. That's the one with the giants German culture.

Speaker 1: 52:38

It has a lot of what feels like German kind of cultural influences on the show. Oh, I think the live action actually takes place in Germany, because when the live action movie came out, they didn't have the full plot of what's going on. Yeah, yeah. So if you're familiar with Attack on Titan, we all know it does not take place in Germany.

Speaker 2: 52:53

Yeah, have you ever watched Titan AE Moving on? No, you haven't Titan AE Moving on?

Speaker 1: 52:57

No, you haven't. Titan AE, yeah, no, but I know what you're talking about. The movie, yeah, that was a weird one, sure was.

Speaker 1: 53:06

Anyways, you have anything else you want to say about. No, I don't know if you can tell I can get on tangents on anime. Anime is great. Yeah, okay, anime is not something that I see. A lot of times people think Anime is not. You know, oh, you're an adult watching cartoons. That's not what anime is very entertaining and very well made and just overall good to watch. Yeah, it's so entertaining and it's so wide, wide and diverse in its themes, like where just don't look at as a cartoon, look at as tv, because it's so wide in its genres within animated in itself.

Speaker 2: 54:00

Yeah, which I mean I've watched some anime and technically do live in my parents' house, so maybe I fit the stigma, Maybe but you do.

Speaker 1: 54:09

you are stereotyped, but you own your parents' house now, so it's your house.

Speaker 2: 54:12

Yeah, it's my house.

Speaker 1: 54:14

And yes, we record this in the basement, but you don't live here. No, I don't live in the basement. No, that's true, so all right. Well, do you have anything else to say about one piece or anime in general?

Speaker 2: 54:24

I've got my transition for tyler. Oh yeah, that has to somewhat do with one piece, but it's something totally different, so let's transition into a midway conversation about the inspiration of one piece.

Speaker 2: 54:39

Right, uh it has some inspiration is pulled from it for one piece. Yes, it is about a real life pirate. So, tyler, this is your transition. This is about a pirate in the real world. He was a French pirate. His name was Olivier Levasseur and he was around in 1960 to 1730. He was known for being ruthless in his attacks on his enemies and the way he spoke to them which fun fact is Buggy the pirate? Really, he's known for bad-mouthing people. Oh yeah, true, that's one of his special abilities. They say, Anyways, but this is not where that no, that's side note. He basically accumulated a very massive treasure that they estimate today to be around $1 billion. That's an estimate. There's no solid. Is that the value?

Speaker 1: 55:54

of today, though, or just yes, yes, so not back then value.

Speaker 2: 55:59

No, not back then it would be even more. It's the equivalent of a billion dollars today Billion or million.

Speaker 1: 56:07

I'm sorry.

Speaker 2: 56:07

Billion, no, the B? Whoa. And he stashed this somewhere and he was caught and they were gonna hang him, and so he wore a cryptogram on a necklace around his neck before they hung him as the execution. He threw the necklace into the crowd. Into the crowd, says find my treasure if you can, and then he's hung. So this is a picture and this will be posted on youtube for you guys. But that is the cryptogram and he just threw that into the crowd. The necklace has disappeared, but they still have this and people ever since then, ever since the 1700s, have been looking for this treasure, but have still not found it. Wow, so this guy, he accumulated a massive treasure.

Speaker 1: 57:11

It's because no one has any fruit powers to help them find the treasure. Yeah, that's why no one's found it.

Speaker 2: 57:19

Yeah, but I mean, there's a handful of locations that people have suspected to be where it's located and one guy, one Englishman, figured out that it's hidden underground somewhere, but it's protected by the currents of the ocean.

Speaker 1: 57:41

What's that? One island that's real famous right now because everybody's digging trying to find the treasure on it. It's got like TV shows Oak something island. Oak island yeah, that's where it's at. No, no, yeah, that's where it's at.

Speaker 2: 57:55

That's like in Canada. I think this is over like Africa. Yeah, he went where it's at. That's like in Canada. I think this is over like Africa.

Speaker 1: 58:00

Yeah, he went from Africa to Canada. Oh, okay, yeah, that's where it's at. Everybody, go to Oak Island.

Speaker 2: 58:05

Yeah, yeah, now, apparently like that one, it's pretty easy to find the location, but it's near impossible to dig it out. Gotcha, like the way that they buried it and set traps and landfills and stuff like that. That's Oak Island you're talking about. That's Oak Island With this. People haven't even found it. They don't even really know the location. There's a couple of suggestions. It's probably here and people have looked in those islands and areas, but still no one's found anything. Hmm, so pretty interesting, but that is just like Gold D Roger, gold D Roger from the one piece the king of the pirates. On his execution he says I've hidden my treasure in one spot. It's all in one spot, it's yours to find.

Speaker 1: 58:57

It's yours, it's all. He says. I've left it all in one spot. It's yours to find.

Speaker 2: 59:00

It's yours, he says I've left it all in one piece. In one piece, yeah, and so, yeah, pretty similar, pretty interesting, and started making me think why am I not church rounding Right Oak Island? No, I don't want to go to Oak Island.

Speaker 1: 59:25

Someone has spent like I think it was like $1. Something million trying to excavate it and they watch them eventually get the treasure and it's going to be worth like $500,000. No, that crew left.

Speaker 2: 59:32

Oh really, they ran out of money trying to dig it up. Jeez, it's like yeah, it's one of those things and I think, because of all of the searching and digging people have done, I think it's made it even harder to get to that treasure. I know.

Speaker 1: 59:48

Have you ever seen the movie Casper the Friendly Ghost? No, so they go through that whole movie looking for the treasure in the house and it ends up being a personal treasure of a baseball and a baseball mitt. Because the, the kid who plays like the, the before Casper became a ghost when he was a boy. He liked playing baseball with his father, so as his treasure so I'm saying that's Oak Island is somebody's personal treasure.

Speaker 2: 1:00:17

That'd be funny. No, it is documented to be a pirate trove. Oh, there you go, just seeing. Yeah, so that was my pirate-themed fascination that I found out.

Speaker 1: 1:00:31

You know what else is fascinating? What Our last segment of the episode.

Speaker 2: 1:00:37

Oh, tyler, this is your transition. We are moving into the corner.

Speaker 1: 1:00:45

Step inside if you dare. Shadows move, mysteries whisper and the unknown awaits. Welcome to the Corner. So on this episode we're going to be talking about a sea creature, because in One Piece they deal with a lot of. They call them the sea kings Sea kings, but they're essentially just like giant sea creatures.

Speaker 2: 1:01:26

Yeah, and they're not. No two are the same.

Speaker 1: 1:01:28

No, they always look so odd. Like one's like a giant serpent. Another one looks like a giant cow, sea cow. Yeah, one of them's like a giant sea cat.

Speaker 2: 1:01:37

It's literally the head of a cat and the rest of it's a fish, so I guess it's catfish there you go, there you go.

Speaker 1: 1:01:44

Well, though, there's only one cryptid I could think of that is associated with being a sea creature the Loch Ness Monster.

Speaker 2: 1:01:55

Loch Ness, which is from the loch, the loch Of Ness Of.

Speaker 1: 1:02:03

Ness. It's funny because it's like the same way that we look at Frankenstein's monster. Yeah Right, everybody calls him Frankenstein. No, frankenstein was the professor, doctor madman, who made Frankenstein, or the monster, what's it called when you dig up a corpse? A grave robber?

Speaker 2: 1:02:23

Is it just grave robber, or is there, like a necro, something? I don't know.

Speaker 1: 1:02:27

But it's interesting that it's called the Loch Ness Monster, but somehow it's Nessie.

Speaker 2: 1:02:33

Yeah, yeah, I don't know, loch Ness, nessie.

Speaker 1: 1:02:37

Mm-hmm. So the earliest known story of Nessie is back in 565 AD, St Columbia. An Irish monk is said to have encountered a water beast in the river Ness the river Ness, that's what it says. Interesting, I wonder if the because is it Lakeakeness or is it lochness.

Speaker 2: 1:03:01

So loch is the term. Is the Scottish term for lake.

Speaker 1: 1:03:06

Okay, they call it a loch, so maybe there's a lakeness and a riverness.

Speaker 2: 1:03:12

Hmm, yes, I'll have to look into that. I guess there's a river that runs by it or into it. Well, I've always understood that the lock is not really it's confined, but it's so deep and they just recently, in more recent years, they found out that there's tunnels way down low and they allege that those tunnels lead into the ocean. Or maybe they proved that. I don't know, know. I know that there's tunnels that go out. So it looks like it's if there was a monster or a massive creature that was in the lake. In theory it could make its way out into the ocean. And then we all know that that it could go anywhere, because we've discovered what was it like?

Speaker 1: 1:04:01

15% of our ocean, or something Is undiscovered or we've only discovered Is discovered, only discovered, like, I think, 15 to 20% of our ocean book life of saint columbia, written in the seventh century. The creature attacked a swimmer but columbia made the sign of a cross and ordered it to be to retreat. The monster obeyed. That is the first written, you know, indication of ness lock lochness, a monster in the Ness Nessie.

Speaker 2: 1:04:37

Yeah, in the lake loch or the loch.

Speaker 1: 1:04:40

For centuries, highland locals spoke of Kelpies, which are shape-shifting water spirits and lake monsters.

Speaker 2: 1:04:47

for years, yeah, which I find it interesting that the oldest story it has to do with someone presenting and invoking christ and that staves off the monster, right. So you know, if you want to take that I guess you could say spiritual route for the cryptid, because that's what we inevitably like, the deeper you dig into crypto, crypto cryptids, cryptozoology, cryptozoology and other things like spirits and ghosts and all that stuff, it all becomes heavily connected to the occult and so, and things like you know, getting into the Nephilim and the fallen spirits of this world and all that stuff, can they take form and what does the form look like and all of that? So water, spirits or sprites and the monster of Loch Ness, if it's a demonic spiritual thing that's manifesting and then you invoke the power of Christ and it deters it, then there you go, case closed.

Speaker 1: 1:06:05

It's demonic, it's demonic, but we don't know that In 1933, the legend of Nessie exploded when a couple diving near the lock claimed they saw in quotes an enormous animal rolling and plunging on the surface of the lake Interesting. The next year, in 1934, the famous surgeon's photograph was published and we've all seen this photograph.

Speaker 2: 1:06:34

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:06:34

We've all know exactly what this thing looks like. Yeah, we've all know exactly what this thing looks like. Yeah, and only have you seen. So, like, what we see is a very zoomed in image of this, the famous like cutout silhouette of the Loch Ness Monster.

Speaker 2: 1:06:48

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:06:48

Have you ever seen the full photograph?

Speaker 2: 1:06:51

No.

Speaker 1: 1:06:52

It is so obviously fake. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:07:00

So it's essentially for that, like I'm not saying that nessie isn't real, that there wasn't some sort of creature in this lake, yeah but the one picture, the proof of it, yeah, when it's zoomed out is obviously a tiny little object at the bank of a of the lake, yeah, not out in the middle of it. You can all of a sudden look and realize, oh, these are tiny little, just waves in the water, not like massive plummeting, like the little ripples in the water, yeah, so later revealed to be a hoax using a toy submarine and putty. But by then nessie had became a sensation and we're talking about about the photograph. So it's probably not real.

Speaker 2: 1:07:39

Well, but you kind of got to leave it as an open hand thing because, like in the conspiracy realm, with all these people that are trying to research and study cryptids, they have to filter through all of the genuine fake things that are put out there to get to real evidence. And like no one's denying that, like there are people that will try to do Bigfoot like oh, we found Bigfoot on camera. It's obviously a human dressed up in an ape costume off in the distance or like a quick little bleep where they run at the camera or whatever. Like it's very fake, it's very obvious and it's very fake. But some of the evidence it's hard to justify as fake, like you can't really fake it, you know what I mean justifies fake. Like you can't really fake it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 1:08:41

But because there is that fake evidence out there now it's like well, it's all fake because this stuff is so obviously fake and a lie. All of it's a lie. So that's how I look at it. I mean someone yeah, this guy, he was trying to make a name for himself or trying to make some money by taking a picture of this monster in the lock, and it's just obviously not that, but what do you do with all the other stories of people that have you know they have no reason to come forth and tell the story that's true, you know, you know, I don't really know a whole lot about nessie.

Speaker 2: 1:09:20

You know, I've, I've heard all the basic stuff and the biggest thing is like, oh, the picture. And then, oh, the picture is verifiably false.

Speaker 2: 1:09:30

Yeah, so all we have is eyewitness testimony that's it and, like I said, like the um mapping of the of the lock, they have discovered caverns that lead to the ocean. I believe fact. Check me on that, people. But so if there is a giant monster that finds its way into the loch, it is very possible that it's coming from the ocean, especially if it's, like other sea creatures, that has a migration path and it migrates from one part of the world to the other, the other. If the loch in scotland, the loch ness is, is a nesting site, it would make sense that this creature comes there, lays an egg, dies and so we're not seeing the same creature we're seeing but you know that's just comparing a prehistoric dinosaur-like looking monster to trout.

Speaker 2: 1:10:40

you know, like in, what trout do, so there's no way to know.

Speaker 1: 1:10:46

Fun fact here Nessie is older than most pirate myths. Well, what do you mean by pirate myths? Well, just pirates and story Piracy kind of in general. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, pirate tales, pirate tales and of in general.

Speaker 2: 1:10:58

Oh, okay, yeah, pirate tales, pirate tales and stuff. Dead men tell no tales. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:11:04

Ironically, ironically To tie it back into one piece.

Speaker 2: 1:11:08

So there you go, there you go, people.

Speaker 1: 1:11:11

Turns out that Nessie is older than pirate stories, and Nessie, more than likely, is older than you.

Speaker 2: 1:11:20

Actually, I don't think people realize that piracy was from the late 1600s, or really from the 1700s to the mid-1800s.

Speaker 1: 1:11:33

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: 1:11:34

Like the romanticized piracy, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1: 1:11:37

There's that 100-year gap. We have it, we have it.

Speaker 2: 1:11:45

Yeah, no, but yeah, it's like when you hear about the pirates and stuff, you think it's older, you think it's like, oh, 1500s is when the pirates were.

Speaker 1: 1:11:55

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:11:56

No, yeah, no, it was the 1800s. 1800s, you know, 17 to 1800s. Yeah, pretty cool stuff. Pretty, unless you're counting the somalia pirates, and those are modern day which have you seen?

Speaker 1: 1:12:14

that's still.

Speaker 2: 1:12:14

That's still younger than nessie, that's true unless you're talking about the vikings, that would be. Which, have you seen? That's still younger than Nessie, that's true. Unless you're talking about the Vikings, then that would be. So there you go. Piracy was happening in 1700s to 1800s, and here we are, 21st century, and still talking about it, yeah, and making entertaining entertainment about it, that's right. And we're still talking about pirates, yeah, and Making entertaining entertainment about it.

Speaker 1: 1:12:42

That's right, and we're still talking about pirates and Nessie Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: 1:12:44

Who is older than the?

Speaker 1: 1:12:44

pirates, which is older than the pirates. So there you go, there you go. So, anyways, thank you everybody for joining us on this very fun pirate themed 35th episode of the Saints that Serve podcast.

Speaker 2: 1:13:00

Yes, Sorry if it was all like over your head with the one-piece stuff. If you take anything away, take away that. There is a lot to the story.

Speaker 1: 1:13:13

Mm-hmm, and we probably, when just discussing this, probably scratched one percent of the of it or went over, you know very quickly, one percent of all the information of one piece. Oh yeah, barely got into it and we ranted for way too long. Yeah, seriously, it's a great show again. If you don't, if you think a thousand two episodes is daunting which it is there is the live action, which is eight episodes, and that gives you a very good jumping off point.

Speaker 2: 1:13:47

And I think that the live action, I think it's good Check it out, which I think is season two coming soon. Oh yeah, cool.

Speaker 1: 1:13:56

I'll watch it. Oh yeah, cool, I'll watch it. Yeah, okay, all right, so Fine, there you go, there you go.

Speaker 2: 1:14:03

Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now.

Speaker 1: 1:14:07

We are the Saints that Serve, so in this episode thread what law or note to follow.

Speaker 2: 1:14:39

So, wow, tea, a drink with jam and bread. That will bring us back to so, so, so so, actually, it's dough, dough, dough, dough, dough, dough, dough, dough, dough, dough dough.