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Welcome to the Saints that Serve, podcast where, each week, your hosts dive into the crossroads of faith, culture and the unknown.

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Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now. We are the Saints that Serve.

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Hey everybody, Welcome to the Saints that Serve.

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Podcast that is the Saints that Serve podcast.

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Where each week we talk about all kinds of things, right, Jairus.

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Mm-hmm, but are we trying to get away from our branding of faith, culture and the unknown?

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Well, no, we do talk about faith, culture and the unknown, but this week, specifically, we get into episode 19, where we recorded an interview with two active missional ministers, or missionaries if you will, in California, in Santa Cruz area.

Speaker 1: 1:13

So we did this for our Mission Ministry Month.

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That's right, mission, ministry Month. If you haven't listened, we've already put out two episodes where we recorded a couple who met through their ministry experience, and then last week, episode 18, is where we listened to my testimony about ministry. So this week we're talking to a married couple who are actively in the field, actively doing ministry full-time, and that is Tyler and Samantha. Tyler and Samantha they are awesome. So please sit back and pay attention to every little detail, because they've got so much good in this recording, so much good.

Speaker 1: 1:54

There is so much good in this interview.

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There is so much good in this interview. There we go. So, yeah, just tune in. So let's go ahead and get into it. This is our conversation with Tyler and Sam. Hello. Yeah they're on. Hey, it's your favorite person.

Speaker 4: 2:18

My favorite grader from 2000.

Speaker 2: 2:21

Heck yeah 15. Yeah, my grading abilities. Yeah, migrating to Billy's yeah, you did a good job.

Speaker 4: 2:30

So A+.

Speaker 2: 2:32

Are you going to be uncomfortable or offended, tyler, if we reference you as Transition Tyler, since that's your nickname on the podcast? No what?

Speaker 1: 2:43

We are so excited to have Transition Tyler on this sam do you not know about that?

Speaker 2: 2:48

no, I do not okay he gave us feedback from episode one about like being more clear when we're transitioning topics my gosh and so every single episode since episode one, every time we transition from one topic to another, we say tyler, this is your transition that's great we will probably reference it at least once, but we'll try to at least make it 50.

Speaker 2: 3:14

We'll try and go spine by me. Okay, perfect, all righty. Well, let's go ahead and make this happen. So the first question that we have for you guys tonight is how did you hear slash? Learn about Youth With a Mission.

Speaker 4: 3:30

Go ahead, tyler oh okay, I'll do it, I'll go first. Okay, I first learned about Youth With a Mission, or YWAM. I was a freshman at a Christian college and I was a brand new believer, did not grow up going to church and I had just been saved for about six months and then jumped into a Christian college and really just still did not know what it looked like to live for Jesus. And so I had a college roommate who saw me struggling, really having still one foot in, one foot out of Christianity, and starting to, yeah, maybe like backslide a little bit and just question a lot of like why did I even choose this lifestyle in the first place? And she had just done a discipleship training school the year before.

Speaker 4: 4:22

And so she sat me down and was a really good friend and was just like what do you need right now in this season? And my answer was like I just want to be discipled, I want to be poured into. There's so much that I don't know. Like I understood I had enough humility at that point to realize I didn't know enough to fully follow Jesus. And so she told me about it and basically described it as a family that you can enter into for six months and just get loved on and grow. And the incubator picture is just what I picture when I think of DTS. I'm going into a safe space to focus on Jesus and really learn what it means to be a disciple. And so it was through a college roommate who had just done her DTS and she passed what it means to like be a disciple. And so it was through a college roommate who had just done her DTS and she passed the info on to me.

Speaker 2: 5:10

Nice. What about you, Tyler? How did?

Speaker 3: 5:12

you? Yeah, similar background. It was just an old youth group leader. I gave my life to the Lord, let's see, over the winter of my senior year of high school, like during winter break. And then the day that we came back at the youth group that night, a friend of mine who was a junior high youth leader had just gotten back from YWAM and he was like, hey, man, you know what are you doing after high school? I was like I don't know, I just gave my life to the lord and I'm trying to figure it out. He's like, oh, I think this would be a great next step for you. So, yeah, I talked with him for about an hour at an in and out afterward and, uh, he was like, yep, let's. Uh, I was. I was thinking, yeah, this is what I need to do, so so we did it.

Speaker 2: 6:01

So you got into missions and you never, and you got out of sin and got out of sin, amen, yes.

Speaker 3: 6:08

And still go to In-N-Out all the time. Perfect.

Speaker 2: 6:12

You know that we don't have any of those over here on the East Coast, so I've never had In-N-Out before.

Speaker 3: 6:18

Oh shoot.

Speaker 2: 6:19

Really.

Speaker 1: 6:20

Oh wow, never mind, I'm trying to think if I have had it, I don't, if I did, it didn't leave an impression.

Speaker 2: 6:27

We live in the land and the home of God's chicken, so Chick-fil-A.

Speaker 3: 6:33

I mean, grew up, yeah, we don't have those out here.

Speaker 4: 6:35

Wait, what's your burger place there, Like what's your go-to burgers?

Speaker 2: 6:40

Oh, burgers specifically.

Speaker 4: 6:41

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 6:42

Burger King no, no, no, it's normally like a smaller. Well, I guess now it's Five Guys, because Five Guys has blown up over here.

Speaker 4: 6:53

Oh, yes, okay, I just looked it up. The closest there's going to be an In-N-Out in 2026 in Tennessee there's going to be one. That's the closest, and then next afternoon, texas, texas.

Speaker 1: 7:04

Too far Really. Like John said, we're not big on burger places. We have the chicken sandwich places. Yeah, we do.

Speaker 2: 7:14

Everywhere has it, Even if they are not known for it. They have a chicken sandwich just because they're in Georgia.

Speaker 3: 7:22

Yeah, I've been on a big chicken sandwich kick for probably about a year now well, I mean chick-fil-a.

Speaker 2: 7:27

It was founded in georgia, right here, like right in the back door. Yeah, I didn't know that yeah, they didn't invent the chicken sandwich, they just perfected it.

Speaker 4: 7:36

That's right that's what they say god's manna from the sky, yeah so, okay, well, anyways.

Speaker 2: 7:43

So why did you go to the base that you went to? So both of you did go to ywam honolulu. Like 50 of our guests have all come out of ywam honolulu, but separately. What's y'all stories? How did you get to like, okay, this is the base I'm going to.

Speaker 4: 8:01

Well, my answer to that is easy because I didn't know that there were other YWAM bases, got it. My roommate said Honolulu and I was like, all right, let's go on their website. I never even went and explored other bases, not even on my radar, and for that I'm thankful, because my personality I probably would have overthought every single base and deciding, like, between all of them. But I'm so thankful for the Honolulu base because of the size specifically. I think that if I would have gone to a larger base for my personality I would have just definitely been the student that like sent through the cracks and just like I'm an introvert through and through, and so the size of Honolulu was perfect for me. But yeah, I didn't even consider other bases awesome.

Speaker 2: 8:50

What about you, tyler?

Speaker 3: 8:52

uh, yeah, similar to to that. The guy who invited me was from that base, so like I'll just go to that base. And when I told my my mom that I was gonna go do this, she was oh well, I just looked it up and there's one that's 40 minutes away and you can go do that one. I said no, I'm going to go to the Hawaii one. So yeah, and I didn't know that there were other bases in Hawaii. When I went there I knew there were other bases, but I was like I'm just going to go to the one that my friend went to. He told me about a lot of great people there that I wanted to meet.

Speaker 2: 9:27

Awesome. What was the name of your friend? What was his first name? Jared, good old Jared, okay.

Speaker 3: 9:34

Yeah, Jared.

Speaker 2: 9:36

Awesome, awesome Okay.

Speaker 3: 9:39

All right, we just saw his brother, justin, justin.

Speaker 2: 9:43

I love that dude too.

Speaker 1: 9:45

Yeah, Is there anybody you don't know.

Speaker 2: 9:46

John. Yeah, everybody started going to Waimamahamalu after I left. Oh gotcha, okay. So what was the DTS lecture phase like and what was your biggest takeaway, samantha?

Speaker 4: 10:00

Oh, my goodness, the lecture phase was so transformative I think, if I were to just pick one, I think being in such a safe environment as far as like relationally safe, emotionally safe, spiritually safe, where I could really explore like what I felt, like the Lord was speaking to me and like discover my giftings I just never had an environment where I felt secure enough and like supported enough. The staff that we had that year were just so intentional and I just felt like, yeah, very seen and individually poured into and so I would say just the safety, I guess, of a community that is so intentional of wanting to build up young people. I mean, every single lecture my notebook was just filled like front and back pages of notes. I was just at the perfect, like sponge season of my walk that I was just devouring everything, but the fact that the environment was safe on all of those aspects, I think, was my biggest, biggest blessing. I just felt really, really grateful to find safety in that place.

Speaker 3: 11:14

Okay, Okay, yeah, for me, I had grown up in the church but never participated in the church, and so I had left to go do the discipleship training school, I mean like six months after I gave my life to the Lord. So for me, it gave me like a really strong foundation for ministry, for, yes, what it looks like to be a Christian, but also like building that foundation for ministry, building that foundation for participating in your Christian communities. So, like, what does ministry look like? What's the right way to do it? What's the wrong way to do it? How can we be more intentional with you? Know all of that? And, yeah, it was. It was really foundational for me in that regards.

Speaker 2: 12:02

So would you say that was your biggest takeaway, was just like it gave you a solid foundation.

Speaker 3: 12:07

Yeah, yeah, a solid foundation for, like ministry, for acting out my faith.

Speaker 2: 12:12

Okay, awesome, yeah, alrighty, and I think I remember y'all's school. I think like half of the staff on y'all's DTS was students in my DTS.

Speaker 4: 12:25

Yes, that's right.

Speaker 2: 12:27

So like that, just I mean that's the turnover. It's like at least you know 40% to 50% of the people that go through a discipleship training school, they come back to YWAM and do something else, be a secondary school or they staff or volunteer or whatever. So it is a really cool like to see how you get God, meets you, gets you fired up and gets you at the ground level, gives you like what Tyler was saying, gives you that solid foundation and then gives you the drive to turn around and actually be proactive with that. So it's just a little little quip out there for anyone listening. Okay, next question so this one has to do with your outreach. So what was outreach like for you guys? And if you want to tell us the places you went and then kind of give us what you're, you know what, what was it like? What? Where did you go? What was kind of the mission ministry stuff you did while you were there and what was your biggest takeaway from the outreach phase?

Speaker 4: 13:33

I went to the Philippines and I went to three different cities and the first half of the ministry was working with young girls who were taken from their home because they were deemed unsafe, and so it was a girl's home with about like 30 to 45 little girls we would go. It was three different houses, they were split up and we would live with them. So, life on life, discipleship, doing the chores with them, making breakfast with them, doing homework, and I would say that first part of outreach, I think, allowing my heart to get broken as the Lord's was, I think and seeing poverty and like living in the poverty for more than just like a little weekend short trip, like sitting in it and realizing like this is the reality at all times, for sure was a shock. But then like allowing, like realizing, like that I'm seeing, like this small little snippet of pain and hunger and trauma, but like God's heart is able to hold all of it and what a gift and a blessing that he's actually inviting me into, to experience that with him and in doing so, being moved to like, do something about it.

Speaker 4: 14:45

And the second part of my outreach was in a city called Olongapo, which used to be. It's right on Subic Bay and it used to be a US Navy naval based naval base is that what it's called? And from that there is because when sailors used to bring their boats there, it started a huge prostitution industry which is still alive and well today. And that was another life on life discipleship house, where we would go out to the bars and the strip clubs and evangelize and befriend women or young girls and then invite them to take a part in this safe house. And then invite them to take a part in this safe house, and so we would invite girls to come to this house and they could live there for up to two years and then they would get job training or be sent to school and then go through like a discipleship program.

Speaker 4: 15:34

And that second part of outreach is where it all clicked for me of like, oh, this is what I was created to do, this is why I'm on earth, like allowing my heart to be broken but then stepping in to that brokenness and being the mouthpiece of Jesus and the hands and feet of Jesus, like this is what I was designed to do, and so it was very heartbreaking work, but because of how dark it was, every time there was a victory for Jesus.

Speaker 4: 16:04

It was like the biggest celebration ever. And so that's what really my second location at the bars that is what really turned me on for long-term ministry of seeing that it's not always going to be a quick turnover, that, yes, Jesus does heal in an instant, but, like women, like that it's a slow burn and takes like intentional pouring into for months or years and then walk and then like deciding that they are worth years of discipling in order to like see them into like long term freedom. And so, yeah, the Philippines is where I went, and when I came back to Honolulu after that, I was like, okay, I'm ready to go back, but I'm sure we'll get to that in a different question.

Speaker 2: 16:49

Awesome. Yeah, there are several women like I guess you could call them freedom deliverance ministries in Atlanta, Because Atlanta is like the third largest sex trafficking city in the world. Actually, I think I think it's the third one in the world and it's number one in the United States. But it's crazy because, like most of the girls, they might come into Atlanta for the weekend, but they actually live like in the boonies somewhere like an hour away.

Speaker 2: 17:21

And it's really sad because half the stories are, yeah, my mom traffics me or, um, you know my uncle traffics me or whatever. So it is really. It's one of those ministries where it's like there's a lot of light shining into it and a lot of deliverance that's happening, but it is hard on your heart just to see the suffering, cause most of the time these girls they're being pimped out by family members, someone that they know and they're supposed to be able to trust, and it's just not.

Speaker 2: 17:49

That's not the way it is. So it is hard, but yeah, I remember you guys coming back and talking about, you know, in casual, as casual as conversation can be about this heavy topic, but talking about like what, you know what fruit you had seen and you know what kind of work you'd gotten into with all that, and it just it reminded me from my home, cause I mean, we live, you know, 20 minutes, 30 minutes outside of downtown Atlanta. So we hear about this stuff all the time from local ministries and it, it, it sucks there's no other way to say it it sucks. So, yeah, definitely, but okay, all right, tyler, we got to hear a little bit about your outreach actually two weeks ago, because sam sam almost said his last name, not your boy, not your wife, sam sam boy yep boy sam boy sam, which is actually what his?

Speaker 2: 18:41

name was during dts, it was was Boise. Yeah, he gave us the kind of a little bit of the rundown for his outreach experience, but let's get your perspective on it.

Speaker 1: 18:51

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 18:52

What was the outreach phase like for you? Where did you go? And then, kind of, what was the biggest takeaway you had from outreach?

Speaker 3: 18:59

Yeah, so it was a gosh, it was a lot. That was oh gosh, 12 years ago now. And so we did, yeah, three. We had three locations. Two of them were in India and the other one was in Sri Lanka and what I remember a lot was visiting and just helping out in any way we could.

Speaker 3: 19:21

Ministries that were already set up there, could ministries that were already set up there, like this pastor had an orphanage that we were able to visit and get to teach and hang out with the kids and encourage them. He set up like a lot of house visits for us where we could visit some of the congregants from his church and pray with them and encourage them and just fellowship with them and pray with them and encourage them and just fellowship with them. And we did quite a bit of open airs of evangelism where we would go out to this village right around the time everyone was getting off of work kind of deal and just do a little song and dance to get all their attention and someone would share the gospel and we just had a lot of attention from that. That and we were, we were just like how can we steward this attention? Well, and it's like well, let's share the gospel with them, let's pray for them, let's bring bibles and partner them with pastors in the area and everything like that. So it was a lot. It was very, I would say, diverse outreach.

Speaker 3: 20:22

As far as like ministry goes, like, there was a lot of different types of ministries that we were a part of, but I think that the biggest thing for me, like the biggest impact, was just seeing the like, the consistencies in that from like doing ministry in Honolulu during our lecture phase and then doing ministry in India with like the same age group but a completely different culture, and seeing like the same God in different cultures and the same like person, me, like how I respond to like different cultures, and it was, it was a refining thing and a forming thing to just see how you know how consistent God is and his, his and his truth and his love, and how it just transcends like time and space. Yeah, it was, it was a lot, but gosh, it was yeah, 12 years ago. I would say. The biggest takeaway, though, was just seeing the same god in in different cultures I love that.

Speaker 2: 21:20

I love that answer, the saint no wall. I mean, both your answers were great. I'm not trying to say one's better than the other.

Speaker 1: 21:26

Oh, we know what you're trying to say, joe, we know what you're saying.

Speaker 2: 21:37

I had more time to think about mine. Your geographical location.

Speaker 2: 21:42

You know, he's still a perfect, holy, loving God who wants to be intentional and personal with you and truly does have the best in store for you. So that is beautiful to see that it doesn't matter where you were born or where you're from. You know who your parents were, what your education, none of that, none of that matters. All that matters is that God created you and that he does love you and he wants to have a relationship with you. So, yeah, that's really good. I really like hearing that, because I don't think a lot of people really think about that a whole lot. Like if you were to drop everything you were doing right now in the American church and go to, you know, thailand or go to Kazakhstan. It's like what are you going to do differently when it comes to the gospel? Nothing. You don't have to do anything different when it comes to the gospel, because the gospel is the same message. It's God loves sinners and wants to redeem them. He's the great physician.

Speaker 2: 22:45

So, uh, really good stuff sounds like you need to learn another language maybe yeah or maybe the holy spirit will rush upon me and I'll just speak in english and they'll understand in another language.

Speaker 4: 22:59

There you go that is the preferred method.

Speaker 2: 23:02

Yeah, or I'll just use my phone and just have a dirty translation of it, just unclear what you know, not grammatically correct, but the idea has gotten across.

Speaker 1: 23:15

There you go, so did both of y'all go to a secondary school?

Speaker 4: 23:20

Yep, I did a school of biblical studies. Johnny was my staff. What? Yep, I did a school of biblical studies. Johnny was my staff. What?

Speaker 1: 23:27

So how did you decide to go back for secondary school?

Speaker 4: 23:31

Well, like I said, when I came back from the Philippines I was set on going back to the Duolongapo. I wanted to go back long term but I knew I did not know enough because at that point. But I knew I did not know enough because at that point I'd only been a believer for a little over 12 months and I wanted to teach and be able to be sustainable and my biblical literacy was very minimal. When I got saved I was told to read Matthew and Romans, and so I camped out in those two books for a. That's all I knew. That's interesting, yes, so I, yeah, I was just really intrigued. And the Bible, the leader of that school her name is Plamena and she just like blew my mind the way she was passionate about like Leviticus and prophets. I was like, okay, I must be missing something. And so she really stirred a curiosity in me. So it was to be equipped. Basically, I wanted to go back into the field and I knew I needed some more equipping before I did that.

Speaker 2: 24:35

That's interesting that you said that the two books you were told to get into when you got saved was Matthew and Romans.

Speaker 4: 24:43

Romans yeah, to know the gospel Jesus, and then Romans, I don't.

Speaker 2: 24:49

I don't know why Romans Well, I was going to say cause I feel like every single youth seminar that I've gone to, at least here in the South. I should clarify in the South every youth seminar and retreat that I go to, every adult retreat. Everyone's always like you need to read the gospel of John. Don't worry about anything else in the Bible yet, just go to the gospel of John. So it's interesting that you got something different. Maybe the gospel of John's an East Coast thing and then the gospel of Matthew is more.

Speaker 4: 25:22

Maybe I think, now that I've been teaching the Bible for some time, if I were to tell a new believer, I would definitely get the gospel of mart personally, oh yeah, yeah I read like way faster and is like I don't know. I would say john is hard to read for me. It's so poetic and flowery.

Speaker 1: 25:42

I like mark, it's fast action that's crazy, because John doesn't know how to read either.

Speaker 2: 25:48

Yeah, I've got a picture Bible, and so I really like to translate it myself. You know what I mean. I use my own interpretation of what's going on based on the pictures.

Speaker 1: 25:59

No, that's not true at all. I can read, I'm reading the questions right now. If you don't know, they're actually in picture format. For John, yeah, all the questions are a picture, I'm just figuring it out as we go, oh my gosh. So what about you, Tyler? Did you go to a secondary school?

Speaker 3: 26:18

So I did not. Coming out of DTS. I actually ended up staffing quite a bit during staffing DTS while Samantha was in her Bible school, and so we were on the same base for during that time. But we afterward, I guess about a year ago, I decided to take an online version of a Bible school that YWAM had set up. It was called a BCC a biblical core course, and it was sort of like a condensed, like mini version of the SPS and the school that Samantha did and I yeah, I got a lot out of it and just like a methodology of studying the Bible and like big picture stuff that really hadn't like clicked for me before I was. I was avoiding academics for a long time and that's's why I was like I do not want to do a bible school. But you know, it took me a while to realize oh, I need to do a bible school, man after my own heart, dude I.

Speaker 2: 27:19

I like we talked about this in the last episode, but when it came to doing a school, uh, sbs a school, biblical studies not on the radar at all I was like, no, that's not my thing. So like when god was like, hey, you're gonna go do this, I was like, are you sure?

Speaker 2: 27:38

you don't want me to do something easier, easier, but yeah, yeah, it was very life transforming, like I feel like and I think, tyler, you could chime in on this, but I think, samantha, this hits home for you doing the full nine-month school, going through the whole Bible. It's like you get into this school and you learn so much, so much, and by the end of it it's like yeah, yeah, I don't actually know a whole lot about the bible, definitely like there's so much in there and you get so much exposure to it. And then at the end of the school you're like wow, I know nothing about the. I thought that I knew nothing about the bible, but now that I know more, I really know I know nothing about the bible definitely it's how.

Speaker 4: 28:20

It's a humbling experience to where I actually have more questions now.

Speaker 1: 28:32

Exactly so. Both of y'all went to some form of secondary school, whether it be online or in person. What was your biggest takeaway from?

Speaker 3: 28:35

that, yeah, I think for me, like how Johnny said, like how it was like so transformative, because I went into like before doing a Bible school, I was just like, no, I do not want to do that, I want to stay out of academics, I want to do like fun ministry stuff.

Speaker 3: 28:53

And then, after doing this Bible school, I was like, oh my goodness, like this is so important, like do other people know this stuff? And if they don't, like how can I participate in like getting this information out of there? Because, yeah, it really did just like transform my life and I think it had a really big impact on my focus in like ministry too and like if I do have like a group of students and like just a space and a time to meet, I think maybe before my Bible school, I was like, oh, let's do some worship and let's do some prayer and let's just like hang out. But like afterward I would be like, oh no, like let's try to fill this space with like some teaching and like ask hard questions and like get to the meaning and the transformation that is found in the text. And so, yeah, for me I think just like a passion and an understanding to really change the trajectory of what I've wanted to do in missions and in ministry Nice.

Speaker 2: 29:53

How about you, Samantha?

Speaker 4: 29:56

Oh, it changed my whole life.

Speaker 4: 29:59

I'm not being dramatic, I mean to get like an overall, like the whole Bible story right, like we so often we get like fragmented stories from the Bible, like all this story from Elijah and this one from John, but to see the unified story and being able to do that in one class, like that I think was such a gift. And then learning that I don't have to go through a mediator when it comes to the Bible, but now I have the confidence to get firsthand revelation from the word and firsthand revelation from the spirit in my studies, to where I don't have to always go to a pastor or an an online teacher. But like I now have the confidence to approach the text myself and just realizing that the majority of the church does not have that confidence and realizing like so often we're told like read your Bible, read your Bible, but like we have to be taught how to do that. That's like me, like placing my seven-year-old in front of a piano and say, play Mozart right now. Like, read your Bible, okay, what does that look like? And so I just am so thankful that I was able to do that school. I think the overall confidence of feeling like I understand so much more about my father now because I understand his story and it was through those nine months that I was able to do that. I felt I feel very, very privileged that I was able to do that in such a contained like time and space that's awesome, I like that.

Speaker 2: 31:33

You said that god's story. I get into the kind of like nerdy theology groups online a little bit. I dabble um, and some of the biggest arguments coming against these more like I guess you could say, critical thinkers. They're like well, what about all these other books that didn't make it into the canonization of the bible, and this, that and the other? And it's like, well, we could get into the really nitty-gritty of those arguments, but the Bible was compiled to relay the message of God to humanity.

Speaker 2: 32:13

And even going back, talking about the gospel of John, like he gets into that. Like I didn't write this book to tell you every little thing about Jesus Christ because there's just not enough paper to do that, but I wrote it so that you could understand he is God. So you know, I like to take that passage in John and kind of apply it to the whole Bible. Like we can't write God's story down, there's too much of it, but we can look at what he has revealed to different people, that he's given the ability to write down a specific message which is god's redemptive plan of humanity. So yeah, um, yeah, god's story. What a beautiful way to put.

Speaker 4: 33:01

To put it, the bible is god's story to humanity I mean, I also think it's like one last, sorry one last thought is that it is like a literary masterpiece, I think. From that year when I did that school to now, I'm just realizing more and more how amazingly talented these writers are. I think, like especially the old testament, we think, because like it was oh so long ago, like we're more intelligent now, we're more educated, but honestly, I think there are better writers than us.

Speaker 2: 33:32

Yeah, yeah, I've gotten that. I've heard that argument Like people. Well, I guess it's not really an argument, but people just naturally assume oh, we're in the 21st century, we've got smartphones, we're smarter than these people that wrote this book a couple thousand years ago. It's like, well, I wouldn't say we're smarter because we've got these smartphones, but we spend like six hours a day just watching videos of people falling off things. So you know, are we really that more advanced? I don't know.

Speaker 1: 34:00

I would say we're actually a lot more dumb because we rely on so much information from outsources well, outside sources. Some of us do some of us you know homestead and I'm sorry that you are smarter than me. Make our own root beer and stuff which you like jairus?

Speaker 3: 34:18

your of education is how good is your homemade root beer?

Speaker 2: 34:21

yeah, dude. Okay, let me nerd out for a second. It is actually. Yeah, he makes this root. It's really good actually.

Speaker 2: 34:26

So I made okay, the only reason I'm talking about it right now is because of how easy it is Okay, I made this thing called a ginger bug and all it is is water without chlorine in it, ginger like the root ginger and raw sugar. Ginger like the root ginger and raw sugar. And basically what you do is you're just mixing this every day. You're adding a little more every day until it starts to start the fermenting process, meaning it starts to create its own yeast that will actively eat the sugar and that's what will trigger carbonation in drinks. But it also creates that healthy gut bacteria for your gut. So I made this ginger bug and then I got all the spices and herbs together for root beer and I got the raw sugar and molasses and everything, mixed it all together, added my ginger bug and let it sit and so's not a super like fizzy carbonated root beer, but it tastes just like root beer, but it's healthy for you it has that bad.

Speaker 2: 35:36

It has a healthy bacteria for your gut, and then it also has all the benefits that come from the raw, natural ingredients that are in root beer is that why I've been throwing up so much? Yeah, you've been throwing up all the bad stuff. There's a little bit of blood in there.

Speaker 1: 35:51

I think I'm dying.

Speaker 2: 35:54

Anyways, yeah, so that's my nerdy portion about beverages, but I've got actually I didn't tell you this, jairus, I have some ginger beer, that's fermenting right now.

Speaker 1: 36:04

Ooh, then I can throw up even more later on baby anyways, okay.

Speaker 2: 36:09

So next question uh, how has your wywam experience affected your life today?

Speaker 3: 36:17

ah it's a big one huge, I think it's just been like a huge part of my life, like I think that been like a huge part of my life, like I think that um, coming out of high school I think this is probably true for the majority of people is we're like forming this trajectory that will like launch us into our 30s and our 40s and stuff like that.

Speaker 3: 36:40

And ywam has played a huge part of that in my life, in forming me as a disciple of Jesus, in forming my passions and helping me understand my skills in ministry and just really empowering me to be guided by the Lord, to acknowledge and to be able to sift out what are my own concerns, what are things that I want to do and really push forward into what is the Lord having me do, what is the Lord leading me to? And I would say it's a lot for sure. But if I had to narrow it down to one thing, I think that my time in ywam has really helped me and just given me the confidence to be led by the lord in the big things and the small things, and it's just taught me like what kind of rhythms I need to participate in to ensure that I'm always being led by the lord nice do you have anything to add to that?

Speaker 4: 37:44

Yeah, I would just say that it taught me how to live missionally, no matter where I am, whatever country I'm in or setting to live on mission, and that I get to participate in an active kingdom that we're not just reading about or singing about, but is actually being built and refined right now, and that's exciting. How could you be bored, as a Christian, knowing that you're participating in a live kingdom? So yeah, to live missionally and the identity of being the daughter of a king whose kingdom is here.

Speaker 2: 38:27

Man, that's awesome. Okay, what are you guys doing ministry-wise now?

Speaker 1: 38:34

Like right, this very second.

Speaker 4: 38:39

We stepped out of YWAM for five years because after we got married, we spent a year in the Philippines and then we were stopping back in California before we were going to go off to Kauai to help pioneer a Bible school when I found out I was pregnant with our seven-year-old and we were very young and scared and didn't know what to do and my due date was on the same date that we were supposed to fly out to Kauai, and so it just seemed like we were supposed to stay and it was really hard to surrender because we both felt like we had this call to be in full-time ministry and then it felt like we had to lay that down and it was a very hard surrender and a lesson on God's timing, obviously.

Speaker 4: 39:30

And so for five years Tyler went to college and I worked full time and he worked and we just did the family thing and just got plugged into a local church and did not have plans on reentering full-time ministry. We were all about like, okay, let's get our white picket fence now get into a little suburb, do the American dream. It's so easy to grow complacent. Oh yeah, and just inward, constant inward building and self-protecting all the time. And so we actually wanted to leave California because it was COVID, post-covid. We were like done-zo I don't want to miss.

Speaker 4: 40:12

COVID, oh, you entertained the idea.

Speaker 1: 40:17

I entertained it.

Speaker 4: 40:19

Well, our pastor at the time, I think the Lord just really used him in some miraculous ways.

Speaker 3: 40:25

There were families leaving our church just by, like the dozen leaving the state, and our pastor is like our church went from three services to one service just in like a couple months, just from people leaving the state. Jeez, yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 4: 40:41

So our, our pastor was pleading with like believers to like stay put, like, if we all leave, like what is going to come of this place? And like believing that, like the Lord wants to redeem the state of California. And who are we to say that it's too far gone? And who are we to say like, oh, we just need to protect ourselves and leave. And so he really cut us to the heart for sure, over a series of months, but I'll have to say sorry, this is a long answer that at that same time that that conviction was happening and our heart for California was growing, some staff, the old directors from YM Honolulu, were pioneering a new location here in Santa Cruz, and so I originally, was just going to drive down here and pick the wife has they have five kids with one on the way and I was just going to pick her brain.

Speaker 4: 41:37

Like what does it look like to do ministry as a family? Like you know, we were young, 20 year olds last time, we were in full-time ministry and so I drove down here it's a three-hour drive from where we were and my plan was just to ask those questions and instead she pitched her vision for a YWAM base and the impact of a YWAM base in Santa Cruz, and I was sold, and so we helped pioneer the campus here. The base is only three years old. It started with just four people and now we are a team of 12.

Speaker 2: 42:13

Oh wow, that's awesome.

Speaker 4: 42:14

Yes, yeah, it's amazing. The house like miracle after miracle, and so that is what we do. That is the first thing. That's how we reentered into ministry, but now we wear a lot of different Tyler, what is everything that you do?

Speaker 3: 42:30

so we still work with YYM Santa Cruz. We mostly help with the finances and administration stuff and then we do try to get more involved in, like local ministries that are here in Santa Cruz. So I would say like the biggest one, the most prominent one that we've been involved in, is leading a young adults ministry through our church and that was been just like getting plugged in to. That was really amazing, for it was. It was awesome for the church to have somebody who was passionate about it and it was awesome for us to have a group and a ministry that we were passionate about. And for the past year, the church has just provided us with a space and a time and students that already know about the ministry and are just like kind of handed it off to us and they said well, what do you want to do with this group? Like how would you steward this? Yeah, it's like I think 18 to 29 year olds Some, I would say half of them like grew up in this area and the other half are UC Santa Cruz students and we get together once a week and basically do a Bible study.

Speaker 3: 43:47

We have big emphasis on prayer and on community and meeting, you know, outside of our weekly gatherings and for like ministry, for service opportunities and for just like getting to know each other and like doing life together.

Speaker 3: 44:03

But, like ournesday nights, is centered around asking those those difficult questions, especially as young adults, especially as young adults that are going to universities, that are teaching all kinds of things sometimes things that people are hearing for the first time and just creating a safe, responsible place where those questions can be asked and people can be celebrated and empowered to do what they feel the Lord is leading them in and to just walk alongside them as they are discipled by the word. So that's been the biggest one, I think, on our hearts lately. And then we also have the opportunity to teach different series at different churches. They'll do like a six-week something on Jonah, or this summer we did one on Ephesians. That was six weeks and it's just a lot about teaching how we approach the scripture, how we can really see this all as meditative literature, from Leviticus to Psalms, to the prophets, to the epistles and, yeah, just helping empower people to be discipled by the word themselves. Did I miss anything, samantha?

Speaker 4: 45:23

We have a yeah, everything we do is based on teaching biblical literacy. It's always just different spheres. So the college students for sure are like because it's the biggest group and we see them continually, week after week. But then, yeah, depending on where like seminars are being held. It took us a long time to build credibility in Santa Cruz for teaching and just like building real relationships with the churches that have been here, but it's been cool to see that like the trust between like different churches and denominations and um getting invited to teach different places. But biblical literacy is the main thing. It was just like getting people into a room where we can all approach the word together, men and women, different denominations, and like get unified around the word and let it like transform us that awesome.

Speaker 2: 46:14

I love to hear that it doesn't matter which church or denomination like you're reaching across. You know the divide that different the different denominations have created. To just present how to read God's word, like how do you get in and study it for yourself. I love hearing that and that we're all about that here. For the saints that serve, it's like just get over your little petty differences and be the body of Christ, go and show the love of Jesus to people. So that's really cool that you guys are doing that in Santa Cruz. That's awesome.

Speaker 3: 46:48

Yeah, and it's been really encouraging for, I think, the ministry and the church leaders around the area, when we we share with them like we're not teaching. We're not trying to teach like doctrine. We're pulling the same book that you use at your church, that this church uses, just the Bible. We're just trying to help people understand it and know how to approach it and know the right questions to ask when they do come across like hard things.

Speaker 2: 47:12

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 47:14

Amen, that's good. So, moving on to the next question, uh, what was the hardest lesson you had to learn during your ywam experience?

Speaker 2: 47:22

even though you're still kind of doing your ywam experience just you know the initial one.

Speaker 4: 47:28

Yeah, I think I don't know if this is unique to ywam, but I think I practiced it. The most is just laying down my own will and kind of like what Tyler was saying of like Lord, what are you doing right now? And like what are you inviting me into? Versus here's my agenda for my YWAM time, lord, will you bless it? Versus like a submission of like what do you want? And I'm going to follow your lead today. So, I think, just the laying down of my will. I think I had to practice that a lot, okay.

Speaker 3: 48:01

Yeah, I think for me it was. I think it's a lesson that I'm still learning and I'm still trying to figure out, and may never figure out completely, but it's the balance between faith and stewardship, and so we're called to trust the lord in everything we do and it's like god's got me, I'm just gonna go out and do it, but it doesn't mean like I can just ride a motorcycle without a helmet on right, so like there's, there's this line.

Speaker 4: 48:30

I think that's legal in georgia. Do you have to wear helmets? Oh?

Speaker 2: 48:33

yeah, I think technically. Yes, you have to wear a helmet when you're riding a motorcycle.

Speaker 1: 48:38

I think it's riding in the back of a truck is the is okay, no, no, not even that.

Speaker 2: 48:44

Now you could technically, if you're, if you are, an autonomous adult, you can ride the back of a truck. Or if you're a farmer, you can ride in a truck without a seat belt, but everything else yeah, yeah, and you have like a farmer card.

Speaker 4: 49:00

How?

Speaker 2: 49:00

do you know? Yeah, you got it. I don't know how they prove they're a farmer, but they have to have at least one ear of corn in your vehicle to prove that you're a farmer.

Speaker 2: 49:08

Stick your corn in your pocket and carry it. No, but they did. They like they. They're making all these like traffic, seat belt law stuff and everyone in in Georgia was like we don't like seatbelts, so they put a clause in there for the really like adamant. Farmers are like we have to constantly get in and out of our trucks all day long. We don't want to wear a seatbelt. Like, okay, well, we'll just make it. If you're a farmer you don't have to, but everyone else does.

Speaker 4: 49:38

Sorry, tyler, I interrupted you. No, that's okay. No.

Speaker 3: 49:40

I'm yeah, I'm used to yeah, you guys have free will out there in California.

Speaker 4: 49:44

I get that yeah.

Speaker 3: 49:48

No, but I think it has taught me like an important thing because like coming into DTS, like before it, it was all about like I got to take care of myself, I have to figure everything out, I have to earn everything, and then like this identity in faith and trusting in the Lord and his leadership and everything, and then kind of trying to find that balance of like trusting the Lord to provide but also like growing in my stewardship, in honoring the Lord with what he has provided for me, and just finding that balance between, like what is up to me to steward and what is up to me to just trust in the Lord that he will bring. So that's, they don't have a week on that. That's just kind of something that you learn over time.

Speaker 2: 50:38

Yeah, lifelong lesson right there.

Speaker 3: 50:49

Yeah, but I think that journey definitely started from just our time in YWAM and it just really has become a big conversation in my head and with, like a lot of other people is finding that faith and stewardship, because we don't want to be unfaithful or we don't want to. We don't want to deny the faithfulness of the Lord, but we also want to be honorable with what he has provided for us.

Speaker 1: 51:09

Awesome. So now we're going to be moving into our final main question. If you had the opportunity to encourage a young person to do a DTS school, how would you go about it?

Speaker 3: 51:20

I would.

Speaker 3: 51:21

I would first ask, like what, what are you planning on doing with your life? Because it's it's, I think, a question that not the not the first time that somebody that is the age of the age of ready to go do a DTS they haven't, they've been asked that before Like, what are you going to do with your life? And then, after hearing that, I would just kind of ask them, like why, why are you going to go do this or that? Why are you going to get this job? Why are you going to go to that school? And just like, help them understand that if it's not rooted in Christ, it's really not going to amount to anything, or it's just not maybe what the Lord has, or it's not. I'm not finding the words here, but I think it's important for people to understand why they're doing the things that they're doing and how they can do anything for the sake of the Lord, and I would encourage them to do a DTS in finding out that why, behind what they're passionate about, and that how and how they can do it to impact the kingdom.

Speaker 2: 52:28

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4: 52:30

I think that I would encourage especially, yeah, that age between like 18 and 23,. Especially that age between 18 and 23, where you don't have as many commitments and where you do have the freedom to live nomadically for a while, using it like for the Lord and allowing your worldview to be like broken, wide open, like I said, like traveling somewhere for a weekend versus like living in poverty for 12 weeks, is a very transformative thing and it makes you view the world very, very differently. And so I think just the type that unique season of like being that young adult and having like the freedom and giving Jesus like honestly, like giving Jesus six months of your life, giving it all to him for six months, like life, and say, okay, lord, whatever you want to do for the next six months, it's guaranteed to have blessings and joy and adventure and some growing pains, but I think that he's worth it and I think what a wonderful season and privilege to do that.

Speaker 1: 53:49

So, yeah, that's good, I want to change my answer. Can you edit that out please? Yeah, make that two.

Speaker 2: 53:56

I want to change my answer to ditto.

Speaker 1: 54:00

Can you make it sound like it was me saying that the whole time?

Speaker 3: 54:05

Yeah, we'll just put the voices on those two.

Speaker 2: 54:08

We can do that, no problem, we've got AI. All right, so we're going to get into just a quick couple little bonus questions. Are we going to transition over to those? Yeah, we'll go ahead and, tyler, this is your transition. We're going to move over to it. Love a good structure. Yeah, thank you. We worked really hard on it.

Speaker 1: 54:29

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 54:32

So this one, okay, you both have experienced the hurricane. That is Johnny. We're going to edit that out because I said my last name. You both experienced me, johnny. Can you remember your first exposure or experience with me? Yes, what was it like?

Speaker 4: 54:59

we went. You took all of the brand new DTS students on a hike and we went out in this lush green jungle and you started climbing trees and swinging on vines. And I grew up in the inner city and I was like what in the world?

Speaker 1: 55:19

Haven't you ever seen a tree before?

Speaker 4: 55:24

I just haven't seen a grown man climb them and play in the trees barefoot.

Speaker 2: 55:31

Yeah, wow, jokes on you. I was just too poor to afford shoes, so I'm not a total crazy person. Uh, okay, yeah, I remember doing that, so that checks out.

Speaker 4: 55:42

yeah definitely the adventure adventure all the time.

Speaker 3: 55:46

Oh yeah, awesome, awesome yeah, I, I'm trying to remember. I think I might have been on that hike. But the one thing that stood out to me the most, that I like actually remember, is we, johnny, you took me and sam and another friend of ours up in the mountain and and we like slept there that one night, like on towels, and we made like a little fire and we were all freezing and it was a really cool view, but it was also like cold and we were kind a little fire and we were all freezing and it was a really cool view, but it was also like cold and we were kind of like why did we do this?

Speaker 2: 56:23

yeah, you weren't.

Speaker 3: 56:23

You aren't really prepared for cold weather in hawaii, no, but when it happens, you're like, wow, I'm genuinely and you're up in the mountains, and two in the morning it can and you're still in your swim trunks okay yeah, actually, and you didn't bring a towel, you, or you didn't bring a sleeping bag. All you needed was a towel.

Speaker 2: 56:43

Yeah, yeah I remember that too. That was a good time. I had fun that time. Yeah, okay, cool, okay. So another bonus question what do you guys like to do for fun?

Speaker 4: 56:56

ironically, I now love to hike. Was that? Was that?

Speaker 2: 57:02

open? Was that opened up to you from that exposure with me, or was there another? It just gradually grew on you?

Speaker 4: 57:10

I think living in manoa valley where the ywam base for sure. There's just so many beautiful hikes there, so I think, anything outside we live like by the ocean and the mountains, and so being outdoors doing anything with my family is always great. Or the polar opposite all by myself on a beach reading a book with no one else around me. I like that too, there you go Nice.

Speaker 2: 57:34

And what about you, Tyler?

Speaker 3: 57:36

I too just love to be outside. Anything to get me outside. Try to get my heart rate up though, when I'm outside. So I do like mountain biking and disc golf, play a lot of disc golf with other people and stuff, and a little surfing, a little snowboarding here and there, but I would say mountain biking and disc golf are the two. Just get me outside, put me on some wheels or let me throw some things around.

Speaker 2: 58:01

Okay, okay, I'll make a middle note right now.

Speaker 1: 58:04

Okay, so this next bonus question. I feel like you're going to both say I'm not answering that because of how you answered this last question but if you could only watch one movie for the rest of your life, what movie would it be?

Speaker 2: 58:17

and I'm going to add or book, read a book if you don't watch movies, let's make that clear, like if you watch movies.

Speaker 4: 58:29

Well, we argued who who got to say this movie, because we both love it so much. But Interstellar is for sure my favorite movie.

Speaker 2: 58:37

Nice, it's a pretty good one. It's a pretty good one.

Speaker 3: 58:40

Yeah, it's great. I would say yeah anytime people ask us what our favorite movie is we always look at each other and we're going to say, oh, who's going to say Interstellar first? Who's the one that has to come up with a second? Best, you should both.

Speaker 2: 58:57

So the one that has to come up with a second best, you should both. So this time it's my turn.

Speaker 3: 59:00

Oh okay, I was gonna say you should both say it at the same time like in unison and then laugh and like, start slapping each other's hands, just to freak out, I've been cute no, I will say, though, if it was, I think, your favorite movie of all time, and if you had to watch one movie for the rest of your life, it might not be the same movie, because, you know, I for me, I think it would be this movie called a tenant and it's another, another Christopher Nolan movie.

Speaker 1: 59:28

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3: 59:29

Yeah, we're big Christopher Nolan fans. Nice, uh, and I just like. The reason why I would pick that one is because I've seen it a couple of times and I still understand like maybe 20% of that movie that is one of the most confusing movies you can watch. Yeah, I think I might completely understand it if it was the only movie I ever watched again. So that's the one I would pick.

Speaker 2: 59:50

I'm all about that. That's kind of how my answer was, because I was like it's not my favorite movie, but I love watching it a lot is the Mummy the classic we're going to freeze for the Mummy. I could literally watch that movie every single day of the week and never get tired of it. But it's not my favorite movie but for some reason I love watching it.

Speaker 1: 1:00:11

It's something that you feel like you could never grow tired of.

Speaker 3: 1:00:15

So you're a big Brendan Fraser fan I wouldn't say I'm a me.

Speaker 2: 1:00:18

And georgia, the jungle, climbing on trees and stuff yeah um more of his action, action films, um, I wouldn't say all. There's like some weird ones that he's in.

Speaker 1: 1:00:29

I'm like so you're saying you don't like the? Well, I've never seen it. So no, I've never seen that one either.

Speaker 2: 1:00:36

I hate it, don't, don't? Yeah, it's the new one, or not new, but it's newer.

Speaker 1: 1:00:43

He plays like a morbidly obese man and having struggles with his relationship with his daughter, and it's just so depressing.

Speaker 2: 1:00:53

Yeah, so yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 4: 1:00:55

Sounds like it.

Speaker 2: 1:00:56

Yeah, I wouldn't enjoy it. Okay, all right. Last question yeah, so yeah, I don't like that. Sounds like it. Yeah, I wouldn't enjoy it. Okay, all right. Last question what are you nerdy about? Let's hear it, sam, come on, nerd.

Speaker 4: 1:01:07

Tell me what you're nerdy about. I can only think of a cliche answer. I really am a Bible nerd. I'm trying to think of something besides that, that's not cliche, that's totally fine. That's a perfectly good answer. I love reading historical books about the Old Testament beautiful, I don't. What else am I nerdy about? It might be the Bible.

Speaker 2: 1:01:33

Sorry to be cliche, samantha when are you going to start taking koinonia greek? Have you done that yet?

Speaker 4: 1:01:43

I'm not sure. So I actually am starting seminary in the fall oh okay, so you'll get to it eventually, okay yeah, the cohort I'm trying doesn't include the languages right now, but I have a feeling I will be highly tempted to do them. Yeah, so the cohort that we're in.

Speaker 3: 1:01:59

It's like the, it's a three-year program and it has everything but the languages in it. And then there's like online tack-ons that you could do afterward, gotcha okay?

Speaker 2: 1:02:10

yeah, I tried to start doing koinonia greek on my own and then like I watched something where someone was like if you try to be self-taught for coining a Greek, it's just going to go over your head Like you need to have an actual classroom or training, and I was like this actually hits home with me, cause I have no idea what I'm doing right now.

Speaker 1: 1:02:28

So I've got to.

Speaker 2: 1:02:29

I've got to find a class somewhere to figure it out, cause I get caught up in that so much when I'm reading and something catches me. When I'm reading the Bible, I go and look at the original translation and then I see the Greek and I'm like you know, this is even the translations and interpretation Like I need to know what this word is, like. I just need to know what it is. So I got to figure it out eventually.

Speaker 4: 1:02:52

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:02:53

Yeah, okay, I know what.

Speaker 4: 1:02:55

Tyler's answer isn't Bible, though. Okay, tyler, yep, yeah, okay, I know what.

Speaker 2: 1:02:57

Tyler's answer isn't Bible, though. Okay, tyler.

Speaker 4: 1:02:58

What's mine?

Speaker 2: 1:02:59

What's your sinful worldly one?

Speaker 4: 1:03:01

Math.

Speaker 3: 1:03:03

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:03:03

That sinning, sinning, math, yeah that devil math it's not like.

Speaker 3: 1:03:08

it's not like oh, I like math because I'm an engineer or something. It's like I find like entertainment in it. I find entertainment in it. I know it's bizarre, but yeah, I do love math. I love reading about math, history and all things numbers.

Speaker 2: 1:03:27

I could go on, but I don't want to put anybody to sleep, no, no, I don't want to throw shade, but I honestly can say I've never heard anyone use the term math history before.

Speaker 3: 1:03:37

Yeah, I got a couple books on it. There's a history of math, wow there you go yeah, yeah, it is pretty fascinating and there's some definitely uh overlap when you're studying like the history of math and then like ancient cultures and babylon's got a pretty prominent presence in that discipline, as well as like hebrews and stuff. But yeah, it's just way too nerdy numbers were invented after that.

Speaker 1: 1:04:02

It was the year two all right, well, awesome.

Speaker 2: 1:04:09

Well, hey guys, we really appreciate you coming on and doing this with us. We're just trying to get exposure into doing ministry and not necessarily like doing what we've done with getting out and doing YWAM although we highly encourage that to people but just bringing exposure to like, hey, where you're at right now is a mission field. Just get the tools and do it, get out there and share the gospel with people and make disciples. So really appreciate you guys coming on and answering all of our questions. Do you have anything that you want to close out with or say or anything? Otherwise we'll let you go.

Speaker 3: 1:04:49

Yeah, I mean just just yeah, like what you guys are doing about encouraging people to be, you know, living on mission and being missional where they are now. Um, I would just add like, yeah, participate in your church. I think it's. It takes a lot more to be a part of your church than just showing up on sundays, but getting to know people and serving and including people in your community that you can grow alongside as you become closer to Jesus is, uh, I mean, that's what it's all about, and you don't need to do a DTS to participate in the church.

Speaker 2: 1:05:26

Heck, yeah, all right cool. But it helped but it definitely helped. I'm not going to lie, okay, awesome, well, hey, I love both of you.

Speaker 4: 1:05:37

You're both awesome we love you too. Thanks for having us. I'm so honored.

Speaker 2: 1:05:41

Yeah, of course, yeah we will, uh, we'll probably have you come back on again in the future. So you know we're looking out for that. But yeah, no, we're actually we're going to be announcing at the end of this month some stuff for like what we're going to be announcing at the end of this month, some stuff for like what we're going to be trying to do ministry wise. So we're trying to use this like interviewing people and making it all about missions and ministry and then, like, at the end of the month, we'll be like, oh, and by the way, this is what we're doing, kind of deal.

Speaker 3: 1:06:12

Oh nice, so tune in Great launch.

Speaker 2: 1:06:15

Yes it will, so listen to more than just episode one, Tyler.

Speaker 3: 1:06:21

I think I listened to episode two and three already?

Speaker 1: 1:06:24

Oh well then I apologize, I don't think we started doing the transition Tyler stuff until maybe four or five maybe. Maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 3: 1:06:37

Okay, I just looked it it up. Episode six is the next one on my queue oh, look at, he is a listener.

Speaker 1: 1:06:42

He's made it past the the first episode got a ways, uh to go before your episode, though and you gotta do it in order.

Speaker 3: 1:06:50

I want to hear sam's now too yeah, they okay.

Speaker 2: 1:06:54

The story of theirs, though, is hilarious because we started recording with them and then, like 10, 12 minutes into it, the power went out at our house. We had a blackout.

Speaker 4: 1:07:03

Oh shoot.

Speaker 2: 1:07:04

We had a two-hour blackout and then it came back on randomly.

Speaker 1: 1:07:10

Then continued recording. Then we stopped again for another reason, then started recording again, so we had like over a span of like four hours like recorded an hour. Yeah, just cause all the oh man, you can't tell when you listen to it, because Jairus is so good at editing, cause it was just so well edited.

Speaker 2: 1:07:27

Yeah, we call him the level ninth wizard of audio editing. So I just don't believe in witchcraft, that's quite a title.

Speaker 1: 1:07:33

Yeah, yeah so all.

Speaker 2: 1:07:34

I just don't believe in witchcraft. That's quite a title. Yeah, all right. Well, we're going to let you guys go. We love you and we will be talking to you soon.

Speaker 3: 1:07:41

All right, looking forward to it.

Speaker 2: 1:07:44

Thank you, thank you, bye guys, bye.

Speaker 1: 1:07:49

And that was our interview with Tyler and Samantha.

Speaker 2: 1:07:52

If you like that content and you want to hear more for either our Mission, ministry Month or any of our other content, we've got an entire library anywhere that you get your podcasts, whether it be.

Speaker 1: 1:08:09

I was going to start talking about our social media, but hey, that's on Apple Podcast, iheartradio Spotify. That's on Apple Podcast, iheartradio Spotify. Man, just go to our website at saintsthatservepodcom and on the right there's an option and, man, it's like 20 different. Yeah, youtube, we're on YouTube too.

Speaker 2: 1:08:27

We're on YouTube, for sure, that's a major one, and if you like that, if you like, we have one live recording with video and that is on YouTube. You can go check out our live recording with video and that is on YouTube. You can go check out our live recording video. But if you want to reach out to us, if you need prayer for anything or you have any questions or criticisms, you can reach out to us through our socials. We have an email thesaintsthatserveatgmailcom. Saintsthatserveatgmailcom. Saintsthatserveatgmailcom. Saints that serve at gmailcom. Saints that serve at gmailcom. And we also have a direct SMS messaging link at the bottom of the show notes for this episode and all of our other episodes.

Speaker 1: 1:09:14

But if you are on social media and you like social media and you do stuff on social media. Follow us on social media. I like how we're on everywhere for the podcast apps. We are the same way on most social media platforms.

Speaker 2: 1:09:23

Yep, we are on threads, we are on Instagram, we're on Facebook. We're on X. Check us out, we're there. Just follow us on Saints that Serve pod, or if you're on X X, it's STS ministry. So go and give us a follow and like our, our content. Give us some feedback, rate us, if you can. You can also comment on the episodes If you're on Spotify I think other places as well do commenting.

Speaker 1: 1:09:52

So thanks. Spotify and I heart radio are the podcast applications that have comments, but we're also watching that. We're watching social media. We got eyes on the prize.

Speaker 2: 1:10:05

And so, yeah, we're on these places. We see your comments and we try to respond to them. Shout out to Bryce we love you. Thank you for listening to episode 17. Hopefully you enjoy this one, episode 19. And to Ashley, thank you for being the top dog with commenting and being engaged with our content. She left us a comment as well, recently.

Speaker 1: 1:10:33

And hey, ashley, I love you, turn around.

Speaker 2: 1:10:36

He's behind you right now, patrick, look out alright. So yeah, that's been our episode 19 with Sam and Tyler for our mission ministry month. Make sure to check us out and we love you. Guys, please follow us. We love you, we need you. Christ is.

Speaker 1: 1:10:55

Lord and the kingdom is now. We are the saints that serve and that was our interview with I almost said timothy.

Speaker 2: 1:11:25

That's why timothy and that was our interview with what's their name again, we just talked to him for an hour.