The Saints That Serve Podcast
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Episode 5 - Our First Guest and "Spooky Season" Part 2
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Growing up, our neighborhood was the perfect playground for our VHS adventures, from "War Stars" to daring stunts. This episode of Saints That Serve embraces the nostalgia with our first guest, Janelle—Jonny's younger sister—who eagerly joins what she fondly calls the "Jarus and Jonny Cinematic Universe." Together, we toast to our podcast's fifth episode milestone while sharing hilarious memories from our childhood. As we set the stage for a spooky season, we're also excited to continue our online Bible study through Discord, diving into the book of Genesis.
Our mission goes beyond just creating fun content; we're passionate about bringing Christian values into diverse communities, especially those not traditionally associated with faith. We discuss the significance of Christians engaging with the performing arts, aiming to break stereotypes and showcase the love and acceptance central to our beliefs. We explore opportunities for young adults to consider mission work through programs like Youth With A Mission (YWAM) and Campus Crusades for Christ, encouraging them to step out of their comfort zones and let their faith guide their paths.
As we prepare for our spooky theme, our conversation takes charming detours, reflecting our delight in unscripted discussions. With a mix of laughter and meaningful dialogue, this episode captures the spirit of what Saints That Serve is all about—shining Christ's light creatively and genuinely. So, whether you're here for the laughs, the faith discussions, or the spooky season, you're in for a delightful exploration as we weave through stories of past exploits and future hopes.
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Welcome to the Saints that Serve, podcast where, each week, your hosts dive into the crossroads of faith, culture and the unknown.
Speaker 1Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now. We are the Saints that Serve.
Speaker 2Welcome back to the Saints that Serve podcast with your hosts Johnny and Jairus. And we're back at it with our creepy season, talking about creepy things, the spooky season. Spooky, I said creepy, but I meant spooky, I wasn't correcting you.
Speaker 1We can call it creepy.
Speaker 2I just Good, all right. Well, if you want to join us for our online Bible study, make sure to reach out to us on any of our socials, or you can email us at saintsthatserve at gmailcom. That is without an S at the end of serve, no S at the end.
Speaker 1Saintsthatserve at gmailcom.
Speaker 2Episode three we screwed up and added an S. Oh, it was episode.
Speaker 1It was episode three, so I was editing episode three today. We correct it. That's the first time. We correct it and make sure it's right. My timeline is all off.
Speaker 2It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1You're right.
Speaker 2What matters is that the email is saints that serve. At gmailcom, you can reach out to us to join the discord channel where we're doing the Bible study. Right now, we're going through the book of Genesis, so just reach out to us to join the Discord channel where we're doing the Bible study. Right now we're going through the book of Genesis, so just reach out. You can reach out to us on Instagram, facebook and we have Twitter now. Is it working now? It is working now, so reach out to us. We'll have the handle posted in the show notes.
Speaker 1Sorry, I just got a little birdie told me it's not Twitter X, x, get. Got a little birdie told me it's not twitter x, x, get it, get it, it's twitter. Yeah, birdie, also you can go to saints that serve podcom. You can check up on um at the bottom. It shows all our different social media sites. Uh, link to the youtube channel and you can also, if you you want, to listen to all our episodes on there as well.
Speaker 2Yeah, and then we're in full swing now with Pray For you Friday. So if you need prayer for anything, obviously you can reach out to us at any time, but our crew will be praying actively on Fridays. So just reach out to us through any of those avenues with your prayer requests. It can be anonymous, you can add names, whatever. We will pray for you. We're not going to put it out on the podcast, we'll just be praying for you and so with that we're going to go ahead and kick it right into the show and we have today.
Speaker 1Jairus, you remember what I promised at the end of last episode. What you were there, you don't remember. No, I promised we might maybe possibly have a guest.
Speaker 2Do we no? Oh, actually, well, janelle, yeah, how are you doing?
Speaker 1You're not a guest. You're not real.
Speaker 3No, we're just a birdie, just a little birdie. Just a little birdie.
Speaker 2Now my younger sister, Janelle, has agreed to join us today. She is officially our first guest on the pod. How's it going, you?
Speaker 1know what that's great. Did you say what episode number this was?
Speaker 2I did not. But before anyone says it, in front of you is a 20-sided dice.
Speaker 3Uh-oh.
Speaker 2Go ahead and grab it this one, and how you roll it depends on how you get to say what episode this is. Go ahead and roll the dice.
Speaker 3No whammies, no whammies, no whammies.
Speaker 1What is it?
Speaker 319?.
Speaker 2Whoa, whoa, all right, whoa. You have to say it as emphatically as possible what episode this is.
Speaker 3Episode five.
Speaker 1That's right, we did it. Wait can you Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 2Technically we haven't done it. We gotta get to episode six.
Speaker 1Oh right.
Speaker 2It's gotta make it past five episodes.
Speaker 1So what episode? It doesn't matter what episode it was on, but you talked about how.
Speaker 3Oh yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think it was episode two. Episode two we talked about how episode five is the barrier for most podcasts. Yeah, that's the tombstone.
Speaker 3Well, I guess depends on how well I do on this episode if we're going to keep going or not.
Speaker 1If you don't see an episode six, you know why. If you don't see an episode six, you know why. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2So before we get into our spooky topic for this week, let's get a little bit of background on who you are. What is your relation to Jairus and Johnny? Obviously, besides the biological.
Speaker 3So I kind of consider myself like a mega fan of the Jarrison Johnny cinematic universe.
Speaker 1Hold on, hold on JJCU.
Speaker 3Yeah, I've been around for a while.
Speaker 2We ever create a production company, the JJCU yeah.
Speaker 3Back in the day we had regal shenanigans on YouTube and I just made myself available. Eagle Shenanigans on YouTube and I just made myself available, you know, as a seven-year-old, eight-year-old, I would just be around, you know, in case you guys were filming and you needed someone. So it's not in one of the episodes you know as my busy eight-year-old schedule. So one of the episodes, one of my drawings is featured, I believe you were in that episode too. Yeah, I was sick. Actually I look pretty rough.
Speaker 1I love how you're like one of my pictures and just completely gloss over the fact that you were also physically in that episode.
Speaker 3One of my favorite episodes still of Regal Shenanigans is Homeschool, where I get hit in the face over and over and over again.
Speaker 2You only see it once in the video, once, but we did it. We recorded for a solid 20 minutes yeah.
Speaker 1It was like 10 takes, that was fun, and of like those 10, nine of them, you got hit in the head.
Speaker 3I got and there was just like a pillow on the ground for me to fall onto. This is your target. I went to theater. I went to theater that night and my forehead was red People were like. Janelle, what happened? I just had a gig.
Speaker 1I had a role that I needed to prepare for Method acting.
Speaker 2Yes, I do have something outside of this theater troupe that I participated in.
Speaker 3But going back even further, before Regal Shenanigans, we have the Family Archive VHSs that I'm featured on.
Speaker 2Oh man.
Speaker 3Johnny and Jairus' rendition of Star Wars, but it was called War Stars.
Speaker 2I played the very important role of all of the stormtroopers yeah I'm gonna be honest, we might have to do a rendition of that.
Speaker 1Can we not just find the tape? I can pull that and digitize it upload it.
Speaker 3I know you can I don't know where it is.
Speaker 2I think that we need to just recreate it. You want to?
Speaker 1recreate it yeah.
Speaker 3I am. My role was Tofu D2.
Speaker 1Tofu D2.
Speaker 3I believe I was like I don't know, I was still in a diaper, I was just hanging out. Yeah, you were like two, yeah, but um.
Speaker 1Baby, my biggest role ever.
Speaker 2Oh for those who don't know what a VHS is, it is what people used to watch movies on before DVDs came out.
Speaker 1Here's the problem with that statement. If you don't know, what a DVD is it's a flat piece of plastic that kept your movie on it.
Speaker 3It's a solid you would put into a DVD player.
Speaker 1A disc you would put into a DVD player, a disc, and then you would be able to watch one movie in a machine instead of that machine playing all the movies it does. It feels so weird.
Speaker 3I'm from the era where I was kind of in between the VHS and the DVD, so like we had VHSs but we also had DVDs, we still used both, but I was closer to the DVD era. So I would use the VHSs, build a throne out of them, sit in the throne and then play a DVD and watch it that's what's funny.
Speaker 1These aren't movies. These are my chair exactly Minecraft before Minecraft that's what's crazy.
Speaker 2All right, so you've been around during our previous endeavors Of all of the implications of the JJCU.
Speaker 3Yeah, back when we were Twitch streaming.
Speaker 1You were on Regal Games. I was on Regal Games. Some would say that Janelle is the third member. Yeah, I would say that of the JJCU. Yeah, I would say that Of the JJCU.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm going to officially say Janelle is a part of the JJCU.
Speaker 3I made it.
Speaker 1Hold on, wait, hold on. Which one is it?
Speaker 3Yes, thank you, thank you it only took what?
Speaker 215 years.
Speaker 1Yeah, does this mean I get paid. No, hard work, no, you don't get paid.
Speaker 3Hard work pays off.
Speaker 1No, you don't get paid oh.
Speaker 3Hard work eventually pays off, isn't?
Speaker 2gratitude enough.
Speaker 1I love how this thing that I feel like we will be the most quote unquote successful with is the thing that we are purposely saying we don't want to get paid for this saying we don't want to get paid for this.
Speaker 2The most consistent is the podcast. I don't care if we don't get big.
Speaker 1I want to be able to reach as many people as possible, but I don't expect any kind of monetary gain from this, even in the slightest.
Speaker 2Well, to bring back up what we talked about in episode one, the goal of this podcast is to bring forth Christian content in the communities that have very few Christians in them. So our goal is to shine the light of Christ into the video game world, into the cinematic world, and really not make our own separate thing, but to be a part, to go into the dark places and shine the light of Christ, because a lot of Christians get into the. We're going to start our own film group, but it's going to be our own thing and we're going to focus on that. So the goal is to not like isolate ourselves from the world, but to shine the light of christ into the world. So that's the goal of the podcast. It's not to become big and famous or the joe rogans of christianity, it's just to to shine light into communities that don't have the light shining right, yeah, I love that and I would say this too, is, if there was ever any kind of monetary gain, it wouldn't be.
Speaker 1It would be strictly to then put forth back into this podcast, if that makes sense yeah, we're not.
Speaker 2We're not taking any money home. This is the goal of this is to pour out, not to take in. So if we ever get to a point where we're doing like merch or not getting monetized or anything, all of it will go towards missions and the podcast. Yeah, so, jarius and I don't take any money home, just so you know. Disclaimer.
Speaker 1Yeah, if somebody's coming back to this episode and we're on episode 400 and they're like, hey, you said you weren't going to have money, and we're right, because we won't have money, we won't have money. The kingdom will have it. The kingdom and the ministry, that is, the saints that serve that's right Will have money.
Speaker 3If we make it to episode six, stop that Sorry.
Speaker 2We're going to.
Speaker 1That's what we're saying. Yes, we're going to make it.
Speaker 2I guess next week we got to have some sort of celebration To. I guess next week we got to have some sort of celebration to make it past episode five.
Speaker 1Can we skip that for like five episodes and celebrate it?
Speaker 2Just shoot right to episode seven.
Speaker 1Welcome to episode seven. Where's six, janelle?
Speaker 3Sorry, my bad.
Speaker 2All right. So you were with us throughout all of our previous endeavors with silly YouTube videos and then with live streams. You weren't a part of the late night live show, right?
Speaker 3No, I was a viewer and I think I was on set for one of them On set, on set being my back room, your house.
Speaker 2I think that was the being my back room. Okay, your house.
Speaker 3I think that was the episode where Ezra was on. Maybe I don't know, Someone was on we did a lot of episodes for that.
Speaker 2Yeah, Ezra ended up becoming like a number two on screen. And then Jordan and Jairus were tech. Oh, that's right Tech, but they still had cameras on them. But yeah.
Speaker 3I have a faint memory of eating Taco Bell in your living room.
Speaker 2You know what I'm going to be honest Living in that trailer, that was a common thing, well, that Taco Bell was so close to your house. Taco.
Speaker 1Bell was close, but there was a Taco Bell and an Ingles near it and there was nothing else. Maybe a Crystal's, yeah, and an Ingalls near it, and there was nothing else.
Speaker 2Maybe a Crystals, yeah, but like I'm talking like not 11, 10 or 11 o'clock at night, just people.
Speaker 3It was hopping.
Speaker 1It was a hopping place, yeah this was before you had children and everything, yeah.
Speaker 2I'm thinking we need to go back to. Well, obviously.
Speaker 3Go back to not having children.
Speaker 1Let's go back to the trailer. Even in, a real house, yeah no, but go back to that like people are here and and we're just popping. Yeah, no, it was. It was cool. I would love to have like just people over there and we have like a audience and we just have kind of like a mic above them.
Speaker 3So picking that up too, you know, like a laugh track, like a life live laugh track, and we just point get a sign hit the wall really hard I actually here's a little bit of Janelle lore Just how guys dressed up as Gestapo with the clear left side. Here's some Janelle lore. I was actually a part of a live audience for a game show last summer.
Speaker 1Whoa what game show.
Speaker 3It was called Snake Oil. I don't know. I guess I can hear about it. You know that comedian. He was the voice of Cusco.
Speaker 1Oh, David Spade.
Speaker 3Yeah, he was the host.
Speaker 1Oh nice.
Speaker 3Snake Oil, anyway. So I was in the audience, I got paid to be in the audience and they seriously had a hype man who, like every 30 minutes or like every sometimes they would have a break and he would get out and he would be like, okay, guys, you gotta laugh harder, you know.
Speaker 1So you were there. So I love this kind of stuff, like the behind the scenes, the creation process, so you went for one taping. How?
Speaker 3many episodes did they tape for that one taping? No, so I was there for six days of filming. Oh gotcha, it was like the first day we only filmed one episode because that was like one of the earlier days of filming, so it took a lot longer. I was probably there for like 10 hours and we only filmed one because they had a lot of stops for tech and things like that. But the more they got into it, then they started filming two episodes per day and the filming days were more around like eight hours.
Speaker 1Did this show ever air?
Speaker 3yeah, it's aired. You can see me.
Speaker 1Sometimes they're like I'm in the commercial for like a split second, but so you're like boy.
Speaker 2What was the premise of my middle child level?
Speaker 3popular I mean not to toot my own horn. I have a child that's in a movie.
Speaker 2I'm not going to tell you what movie it is because I don't want you to look at him, but he's in a movie. I'm not going to tell you what movie it is because I don't want you to look at him, but he's in a movie and you see him a lot in the movie. It's true, he's a baby.
Speaker 1I will say this that movie Not good.
Speaker 3It's not good. It wasn't great, but he was in it. The book series was great.
Speaker 1Yeah, oh, no, there's too many. I bought that movie strictly Like I bought the steelbook, bought the most extensive version of that movie, because your son is in it and I'm like I watched it once with my then girlfriend, now wife, and we just both watched and we're like, wow, okay, yeah, yeah, look there he is, you can tell it's your son, like a newborn version of your son, like you see him for the first time and you're like wow, and then the next 20 minutes.
Speaker 2He's just constantly popping up.
Speaker 1Well, that's what's well, it's cool because, um, he is the child version, the baby version of the main character. Yeah, and so he popped. You said that y'all went for like maybe a couple hours filming or something like that.
Speaker 2I think that my wife was there for like four hours, four to six hours, but I mean most of it is yeah, just like the main character's mom holding him. Right, you know what I mean. There's a couple of like close-ups of just him.
Speaker 3So like I would have to wear a different outfit each day, oh, yeah, game show. For the game show. I would usually have to like have a jacket for one of the episodes and then take the jacket off for another episode, and they would move me around to different seats.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Depending on the episode we were filming Pretty much all of them, though they put me in the front for some reason. So I'm like, if they use this footage, like all of this footage, they're going to be like who's this one girl, but you really can't see. Well, this was an interesting setup where the audience was actually the backdrop for the contestants, so we were facing the contestants back.
Speaker 2They would kick me out day one because I'd be in the audience and I'd be going.
Speaker 3Let's go cruise go. Yeah, it was crazy. There were some stars that were like guest stars on there, which was cool.
Speaker 2That guy from, uh, I don't know actor names, I'm really bad at that let's just let's let's just acknowledge that you and I have been working on media content. For what did I say? 15 years, 12, 15 years?
Speaker 1yeah, janelle has gotten more famous screen time in one week hold on hold on than our 15 years hold on. I myself, besides your son, have also been in a movie.
Speaker 3It's true, that's true. He walks across the stage.
Speaker 1You can see me for a sinner movie for all of two seconds, but I am am in it, footloose, heck yeah.
Speaker 2The newer one, not the classic one. Yeah, I'm not that old. No, I'm in that one too Baby Jairus.
Speaker 1Baby Jairus. Yeah, you can see in. Footloose. You can see the mom holding me throughout the entire movie.
Speaker 3Young Kevin Bacon.
Speaker 1I'm young kevin bacon.
Missions in Performing Arts World
Speaker 2No, yeah, I'm, I'm you look like a younger. Less surprised kevin bacon, because his face looks like he's just in a constant state of insert the pikachu meme surprise pikachu anyways, that's cool.
Speaker 3Yeah, in the show yeah, I, I am similar to y'all. I'm real big about, as a believer, not being afraid of spaces that don't have a lot of believers, which is interesting because our um, our childhood was very much like sheltered Christian kind of stay, in that Mine especially was very much like all everyone I knew was Christian. But I'm very into the performing arts world Actor, dancer singer, which is pretty dark too, which is like kind of where Christians go to die.
Speaker 3So it's kind of cool to be like no, I want to go into those spaces and I want to be involved, um, and be like, hey, not all christians hate you and are horrible. I have, you know, I have standards, but I also, um, am not a bigot or you know, so yeah, that's really good.
Speaker 2That's and that's the important thing like being a Christian and going into spaces that are predominantly worldly. The goal is missions. It's not to just be there in existence, it's before I go I'm praying up. While I'm there, I'm praying and seeking discernment from the Holy Spirit about what to do, and then, when I leave, I'm praying out my way out. So it is important, it is necessary, and we as believers are supposed to be doing that really, for everything, like every area of our life, should be mission focused, because Jesus calls us the great commission and Matthew 28 is to go unto the world and make disciples of all nations. So everywhere we go, we should approach it with a disciple making mindset rather than like, uh, it's really worldly and dark, let's get out of here, I don't want to go there.
Speaker 3That's scary. Yeah, I got the opportunity to be a part of a touring group with YWAM. Have you talked about YWAM on here?
Speaker 2Not yet Okay, which is surprising that I'm a major part of you Right, right, right, a big part of your life. A massive turning point for who I am Right. Four years, right Three. Yeah, I did three years of mission work full time, but I mean I'm like a huge advocate for it. Any young adult that I meet that's coming out of high school, I'm like why don't you go and do youth with a mission?
Speaker 3No, literally Like just do it. I have so many kids who come and talk to me about that too, cause I serve in my church's youth group, and so I'm like, heck, yeah, I mean, just do it.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, like just go do.
Speaker 1We'll talk about it. Yeah, I was gonna say Do you wanna give an elevator pitch on that or do you wanna save that for, like, have that as a whole episode?
Speaker 2We'll go into it for a whole episode. But if you're a young adult about to get out of high school or just got out of high school, just go do missions, especially something like a youth with a mission like YWAM, or even what's the big campus? One Campus.
Speaker 3Crusades for Christ. Crusades for Christ. Crusades for Christ right now. Yeah, my boyfriend's done some mission.
Speaker 2Crew's really big Um, and then there's there's a couple of more that are out there. But the idea is is it's taking you as a young adult and you're really hashing out who you are in Christ, you're knowing who God is, who you are in God, and then how to make God known. That's why I love YWAM so much is because of that. Now, there is a caveat with that. Not every single base is the same.
Speaker 3It's decentralized, so it's not like they follow.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean there's curriculum that's put out and approved by the main YWAM organization, but each base, as far as the culture goes, can be different. So you really got to do your research on that side of it. But take a break from school and really go figure out how to serve as a Christian and make disciples. Learn how to be a disciple maker, and then, if you want to go to college, then go to college. Learn how to be a disciple maker and then, if you want to go to college, then go to college. That way you have your own grounding in Christ, not just what you've grown up with.
Speaker 1So like a base timeline, like the minimum you can do there is how long, like I'm sure you can go back and do it several different things. Three to six months. Three to six months that is not a terrible chunk out of what you could be doing at college.
Speaker 2Like it's easy. The idea is that you take half a year off from school, go, do long, because it is long-term missions, there's classes and lectures that train you, and then you go out and you apply those things in the field and the goal is to just get you to figure out who you are in Christ and then apply that in disciple making ministry and then you can go back to your normal life, into the real world, or you can continue on with that and keep on doing full-time missions. It's either way. But, um, yeah, I would just say, just do it. If you're a young adult who's just out of high school or about to get out of high school, stop what you're doing and take some time to do mission work and figure out how to be effective for ministry away from your safety basket, like your community that you've grown up with is safe and so you may be a little bit more confident in what you're doing. If you get out of that and get with strangers who are brothers in christ but strangers, and figure out how to be companions with them and go and disciple with them, um, it will really make you effective and then it's you'll get more into the mindset of god's leading me.
Speaker 2I'm not incorporating God into my life, right, because that was the biggest thing I learned when I did missions is God's leading me. I'm not trying to incorporate God into my life, I'm just trying to follow. And so, no matter what I do be it work, a full-time job, do full-time ministry have my own business, like what I'm doing right now. Like I'm just doing right now, I'm just doing it for the glory of the Lord. I just want to serve God and I want to make disciples. It's all I want to do. So that's the biggest thing is it will help you get to that point of like I'm just going to follow God with my life. Wherever he's leading, I'm going to walk that direction, and when he's not leading that way anymore, I'm going to pivot. I'm going to walk that direction, and when he's not leading that way anymore, I'm going to pivot. I'm going to go the next direction, right, you know, wherever he is, that's where I want to be yeah, and my YWAM experience was, um, specifically performing arts centered, and so we got to have that.
Speaker 3How do you go into the performing arts world, into the performing arts world as a mission field and go into those dark places with the armor of God on and ready, you know, being on guard and being ready to preach the gospel in a way that people can receive it? So when we would do street evangelism, we'd be, you know, going out into public places with the goal of telling people about Jesus and about the gospel. And so we would pass these people who were, you know, this one guy in England he had this giant cross on his back and he was just shouting into the street and people would not even look at him, like they would just completely ignore him, walk by, and he had the same goal as us on paper he wanted to tell people about Jesus. He wanted to, you know, warn them about their eternity and things like that. But we would go out into the street and we would put on music, we'd start dancing, we'd perform, we would draw crowds to us and then we would send people out in the crowd to pray for them, to talk to them about Jesus.
Faithfulness in Missions
Speaker 3So it was like this the effectiveness using performing arts for ministry is crazy, and so that was something really cool. It was like, well, we both have the same goal, but how people receive it is really really different, and so that was really cool to kind of go on tour and experience that kind of go on tour and experience that. Going into schools, going into one time in Luton, which is a city south of London, big refugee city, we got to perform just like in the middle of their square so we were able to like draw a crowd and present the story in Luke of the prodigal son, so basically showing these people hey, god's God, the Father, is waiting for you to come to him, no matter what you've done, no matter the mistakes you've made. And so that was crazy to just be like out in the middle of the street. And that was something I got to do at 18 years old, straight out of high school, because of YWAM, and so it was a really cool experience.
Speaker 2Yeah, and just a quick. I'm not combating you in any way. There's nothing wrong with the traditional street preacher tactic like, as long as you're being faithful. So if God's leading you to do that, do that. But if God's leading you to be a part of a performing arts which obviously is effective people like to be entertained, it is very effective Do that. But once again, it comes back around to following, like, if God's leading you, do it, because all of heaven rejoices when one soul is saved. So if you're the guy out there and you're spending 10 hours out on the street proclaiming like Christ is lord, return, turn and repent, and everyone's just giving you the cold shoulder and people are shouting at you, but one person comes and talks to you and then receives christ, all that day was not wasted. Then the same side if you're out there with a part of a team who's putting on a performing arts show and then you share the gospel afterwards and people get saved, all of it was worth it.
Speaker 2The goal is to not go out and be the most effective or most efficient. The goal is to spread the gospel and make disciples. So there's great benefit in being strategic and tactically minded, but at the end of the day, you should be a follower of Christ and just follow as he leads you and whatever you're supposed to be doing, and be faithful on that. There are some missionaries who their entire life of ministry they did not see any fruit, but they were faithful in it, and then the fruit poured out from there. They're sowing of seeds. Someone came along later and harvested Right so but do missions Get out there and serve?
Speaker 3Yield the yarn.
Speaker 2Just do it and we will. I think it'll be good. This is an internal note, but I think maybe beginning of the year, january, we do just a big interview of interviewing a bunch of people the month of January people who've gone to YWAM, yeah, just people who have done.
Speaker 1When does the? Not to try to get on off off um, off the schedule and plan of this episode, but what uh is usually when do they start? Throughout the year?
Speaker 2Well, I am. Yeah, it depends on the base and how many schools they do a year, but usually they do it in quarterly increments. So there's usually, if it's a year-round base, they'll have four entry-level courses a year. It'll be January, april, september. No, not September. January, april. I've heard of some starting in June courses a year. It'll be january, april, september.
Speaker 3No, not january april I've heard of some starting in june, but there's not a lot that start in june. Yeah, a lot of them start in september.
Speaker 2I think, yeah, normally they'll take a break right in it, then it in june, but bigger bases will do it june and then september and the idea is that during the lecture phase, which is three months, there's a class there and then they leave and then, like two or three weeks later, the next group comes in and starts their lecture phase. So, but a lot of campuses or bases will really only do like one to two a year beginning of the year and end of the year.
Speaker 2So, but it really. I mean it's the. I think it's still the second largest international missions organization in the world. So there's a lot of places around the world. Is that for all?
Speaker 1ministries, or just ones that are geared towards young adults going out.
Speaker 2Well, so YRAM started as a young adults missions ministry, but they have things for people of all ages.
Speaker 3Yeah, there's family schools as well, so you can go with your wife and kids, or you can, you know, as a family unit, go and do missions.
Speaker 1Sure, but you said that that's number two in all missions, or just?
Speaker 2Globally it's the largest missions organization. It's number two, I think, crew's number one.
Speaker 3Oh really.
Speaker 2I think Crew is technically bigger than Youth with a Mission. Yeah, Neat.
Speaker 3Anyway, it's pretty neat.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's pretty neat. You can tell it's neat because of the way it is.
Speaker 3That's a great.
Speaker 2You can tell this is an Aspen tree because of the way that it is.
Speaker 3It's a family quote.
Speaker 1Keep going to those garage sales.
Speaker 3He can tell that this is an Aspen tree because of the way that it is. The family quotes Keep going to those garage sales.
Speaker 1Going to those garage sales, we got to tell that story at some point. Go ahead Right now.
Trick-or-Treating on the Podcast
Speaker 3No, we're too off track, right now Okay, yeah, I'm like, where are we?
Speaker 1Yeah, we are 40 minutes in and we haven't even started our first topic. Well, but some of that is going to get cut out. Oh no, all of it. I'm keeping all of it Entire episode.
Speaker 2All right, let's get into it. Are you ready for our spooky?
Speaker 1topic I'm scared. It's not that spooky. Can I get a drum roll? Do what we have Trick-or-treating Ding dong. Trick-or-treating Ding dong. Trick or treating.
Speaker 2Alright, so Janelle has never experienced trick or treating? No, I have experienced it once or twice.
Speaker 1I think I did it every year Until I was about 10, maybe.
Speaker 2Until your parents stopped caring.
Speaker 1And then once, I'm not going to go there. Oh my gosh, I'm not going to go there. Oh my gosh, miss Savage, I'm sorry it wasn't her. And then once, when I was 18.
Speaker 2Okay, Once that sounds like a story, all right, we're going to give you the background.
Speaker 3Okay.
Speaker 2Actually, you know what no Background after experience Okay. Actually, you know what? No Background after experience, okay. So Halloween, 31st of October, happens every year. Growing up, janelle, what was your experience Like? What were you taught? And then, what did you typically do?
Speaker 3So I was a teacher. Halloween was a bit of a taboo. We didn't celebrate Halloween, but we still did Halloween.
Speaker 1I'm so glad you said that, because I have some things to say about that situation.
Speaker 3Yeah, so little Christian homeschool. Janelle would go to Hallelujah festivals.
Speaker 2Okay, you can collaborate.
Speaker 3So a hallelujah festival was basically Christians just saying, well, we want to do Halloween, but we don't want all the dark, evil, sketchy, drugs and candy type of things.
Speaker 1Drugs and candy.
Speaker 3Yeah, isn't that Drugs in candy? Oh, in candy, yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 1I've never heard of that Trick or treat.
Speaker 2Here's your Butterfinger, and some Is it a Butterfinger or is it meth, uh-oh?
Speaker 3So we would go to different large churches in the area that would host a festival that usually had trunk-or-treating, which is basically families would decorate the trunks of their car with like mini games and stuff for you to be able to get candy. So I basically did accept candy from a stranger out of their car, but it was at a church so I guess it was okay it was in a church parking right.
Speaker 1It wasn't at somebody's house randomly. They knock on the front, so it's got to be okay.
Speaker 3So you know, as a thriving theater kid, I did love to dress up.
Speaker 2Okay, I'm sorry, but just looking at that from the outside in, like, if you trick-or-treat at somebody's house and they give you something that's bad, like you can trace it back to them. You know where they live Trunk-or-treating if someone gives you something bad, they're gone.
Speaker 1No, I take note of all the licensed plates. I get candy from.
Speaker 2This Butterfinger was 825776. That's what I'm saying. They just, they like hand out five pieces of candy and then they peel out of the parking lot. You're like let's hold off on that Dude.
Speaker 3We had our family dominated. The cakewalk at those things.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, Well, there's like 20 of us.
Speaker 3Right, so it was like a cakewalk.
Speaker 1So when all y'all do one cakewalk.
Speaker 3We get all the cake.
Speaker 2You get all the cake. Just metapolize the walk. There's not a single person who's not doing the cakewalk.
Speaker 3Guaranteed. You guys look really similar.
Speaker 2Yeah, so cake similar. Yeah, so Cakewalk. We play the lottery a lot.
Speaker 3Cakewalk is like they play music. I barely remember. I mean it was. What is it? What is a Cakewalk?
Speaker 1They play music. It's musical chairs. But you win cake at the end.
Speaker 2It's a hybrid of bingo and musical chairs. So you do, you can walk around and then they're playing music. Whenever the music stops, you got to stop on whatever spot you're on. And then you look at it it's normally a number and they'll call up the number and if you're on it then you get the cake or pie or whatever it is.
Speaker 3Yeah, so usually churches would do as a way of outreach ministry to the community. They would do festivals, fall festivals around Halloween, and so I would usually go to that. Once I got a bit older, most of my siblings weren't too crazy about it because, like the sibling right above me is four years older than me, so she was kind of like over it, whatever, when I still wanted to do it, so my mom would take me or take me and a friend like Hayden and I went as fairies one year.
Speaker 2That was awesome for those who don't know, hayden is janelle's best friend, who, in arizona, I think. I think someone one of their family members has been listening in because we've been watching the stats, and someone in arizona's list. If this person from arizona is, hayden, hello if it's a total random stranger, we, we love you just as much. Yeah, yeah yeah, we love you if you weren't.
Speaker 3If you're not, hayden, find her. No, I'm just kidding, you know what Shout out to Hayden Shout out to Hayden.
Speaker 2Your name's officially on the podcast.
Speaker 1She was also in a Regal Shenanigans video that never got aired Never got released and she still like sighs about that.
Speaker 3Mention that because she was visiting for a very short amount of time and wanted to like visit old friends and I was like let's go film this video. She was like, okay, yeah, let's go do it.
Speaker 1And then it never got aired. It might still. I still have everything for it.
Speaker 3I'm just lazy well, there's still hope you heard it here.
Speaker 1I'm lazy.
Speaker 3There's the hallelujah, festivals fall festivals safe, old alternative.
Speaker 2Yeah, still strangers, but you know, church strangers, I'm lazy, there's the Anyways, all right, hallelujah festivals. So hallelujah festivals, fall festivals, safe, controlled alternative.
Speaker 3Yeah, still strangers, but you know church strangers.
Speaker 2Okay, but Like.
Speaker 3My mom was like right behind me the whole time.
Speaker 2If I'm doing church ministry, they're strangers to you the person getting candy, but they have to be a member of the church to be able to participate. So if you trust the church you're going to like it's an accountable person in the church yeah, so it was fun.
Speaker 3You know you get to dress up. Still you get to go play different like mini games to get candy. So it's not just like give me candy, you know, it's usually like a game to win it. Um, one of my favorites was the duck racing, or like the little kiddie pool with little rubber duckies in it. That one was pretty good, and then once I got to be a teenager, I started helping out at those types of things.
Speaker 1So I think I always had more fun helping than participating in any kind of those children events.
Speaker 3Yeah, Although I do have one trick or treat story. Yeah, although I do have one trick-or-treat story. One year we were going to go to this Hallelujah Festival but it got rained out, oh, and I was so disappointed because I was going to dress up as a farmer and mom had literally bought me this little plastic farmer kit with a rake and a shovel and stuff like that, and so I was like I was ecstatic, I was so excited. So dad took me and some of my sisters to go, but then it started raining and it was like, oh, it's canceled, so instead we went to Dairy Queen.
Speaker 2Oh yeah.
Speaker 3And while we were sitting there, I think we got food.
Speaker 1Can I say it, halloween isn't Halloween without a DQ lizard, oh yeah, and while we were sitting there, I think we got food. Can I say it, uh-huh, halloween isn't Halloween without a DQ blizzard. There it is.
Speaker 3Halloween isn't Halloween without a DK blizzard.
Speaker 3DK blizzard, donkey Kong, anyway. So we were sitting at the table at Dairy Queen and the waitress came up. We were like the only ones in there, because that's how hard it was raining outside. And this lady came up and was like hey, if you go up to the counter and you say trick-or-treat, they'll give you a free ice cream cone, or something like that. And I was like, and so I went up with my little farmer costume to the counter it's trick-or-treat and I got free ice cream so that's the only time I've actually gone trick-or-treating it would have been better if the lady was messing with you.
Speaker 2Yeah, I was going to say the same thing she's like um, we don't do that, we don't.
Speaker 1What are you doing? Go back to your seat.
Speaker 3I got pranked.
Speaker 1You look back and it's just me pulling off a mask.
Speaker 2No, all right. So, jairus, what is your experience with trick-or-treating?
Speaker 1I mean, it was, you know, I guess, the traditional from ages 1 to 10, just every year. You grew up near a neighborhood and I think I talked about that same neighborhood last week being packed, yeah, and just go trick-or-treat in whatever costume we'd wear.
Speaker 3Did you make a costume?
Speaker 1No, I think I remember the one year for sure going as Sonic the Hedgehog. That's the one I remember With teeth, with the teeth, yeah.
Speaker 3Scary yeah creepy.
Speaker 1Sonic yeah, yep, but I mean just, I grew up in a household that wasn't really dominantly Christian. It was my grandparents would pick me up, take me to church and then come back home. It wasn't until my parents split that my mom got into church, really coming a lot. So it wasn't a very Christian positive household I grew up in yeah, I am. So it wasn't a very Christian positive household I grew up in.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, so I'm the heathen of the podcast. Yeah, there was no questions about trick-or-treating. I'm like should we, should we not? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3The reason why I ask about the costumes thing is because our mom would not buy costumes for us.
Speaker 3No, she would say you got to make it Like, you got gotta put it together. So that's why the whole farmer thing was rare, because she actually bought me like a little farmer thing and like basket. So that was a big deal. Because usually she had memories of doing Halloween as a kid and her favorite part about it was just looking in her closet and trying to find a costume. So we kind of had the same. I think my very first, let's see, one time I got like a fairy butterfly costume that I somehow convinced her to buy me when I was a kid and then I convinced my sister to buy me a hot dog suit and those were the only times I really like had store-bought Halloween costumes.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1So I'll say this I didn't go to trunk-or-treats, I went to houses as well, so I didn't even know which. Maybe you're about to talk about this or not, maybe not. I'm going to say my two pieces of what I feel about the trunk-or-treating. I think that if you're going to do an event like that, to supplement, to say oh no, don't go trick-or-treating, and you're saying come here instead, you're still promoting that event in some way. You're not sitting there saying why you shouldn't be out the the the demonic side of Halloween. You're just saying come to the church.
Speaker 1And I feel like that if you're really going to sit there and say this event, this day is bad for this event, you shouldn't be having any event at all. You should be promoting that. This is just a normal day. You don't go out and then maybe a week later, have a church event, the fall festival or something like that, because that was always what it was I saw was fall festivals, and to me it was, I wouldn't say hypocritical, but it was like a bit silly and mixed messaging of like what you were trying. The point you were trying to prove by, not by saying don't go out there and do that. Come here and do the same thing, but not out there yeah, all right, cool.
Speaker 2Well, I'm gonna get into the history of it specifically for trick-or-treating. Okay, so you know, halloween is a big bear in itself. There's a lot of different things that go on on october 31st, but this week we're talking specifically about trick-or-treating. How did it come into be? What's our experience with it and, kind of as Christians, how should we approach it? So the oldest documented, I guess, origins of the idea of going from place to place and asking for candy going from place to place and asking for candy. It spawned from an ancient Druid slash Celtic practice called Samhain, and this was a holiday where basically it was like the new year's coming, our seasons are changing, so it's the last day of summer, and they would participate in a festival that had to do with spirits, like spirits coming down to the earth or place to place and request food, or the idea was like you're giving us food to ward off the spirits so they don't come into your house.
Speaker 3That's crazy.
Speaker 2So that was the very, that's the earliest. People trace it back to Now, when the church starts getting involved and people start converting to Christianity. There's still and this happens in a lot of different places where the church goes I'm talking about the Catholic church specifically here they still practice their old rituals and festivals and parties. And so the church, rather than fighting that bear, gives replacements. So the church, rather than fighting that bear, gives replacements. And so, you know, it evolved over time, had a couple of different names, but really, when the church got involved, it was called All Hallows Eve, and this was basically.
Speaker 2I think it was Pope Gregory III. He took All Saints Day, which is a day when you're supposed to pray for martyrs and saints that have passed away. He moved it from the beginning of summer to the end of summer and then that was All Saints Day. The day before that is All Hallows Eve, right. The day before that is All Hallows' Eve, right. And the idea is kids can dress up. Kids would dress up and they would go door to door and ask people for food or candy, and then if you gave them food or candy, then they would pray over your house that no spirits would come into your home. They would ward off spirits.
Speaker 3The children would.
Speaker 2The children would. Yeah, the children would pray for your home and then pray for anyone. If you lost anybody that year, they would pray for their soul, basically.
Speaker 1No, they would try to get rid of the children. No, no, but All Hallows' Eve Janelle's. So honed in on this. I don't think she realized I was joking.
Speaker 3It processed, but it didn't make it to my face.
Speaker 2So All Hallows Eve, the idea was, instead of kids practicing in idol sacrifice Thank goodness they would still get to dress up they would go house to house and offer to pray over lost loved ones for their souls, because and we haven't talked about this we'll probably get into it. But the catholic church teaches the idea of um, why am I blanking on it now? Basically you can get saved, but then if you go back into sin, like you've got to earn back towards that salvation of going into heaven, so the idea is you go into, it's not, it's not hell, but it's a limbo like purgatory or something like that. Yeah, it's purgatory, thank you, purgatory, yep, and the idea is, if someone dies and goes into purgatory, their loved ones are still alive and earn repentance for them and get them into heaven. And so that's the idea is that if your loved one died and maybe they didn't make it into heaven, these kids will pray for them on All Hallows Eve and you give the kids drinks or food.
Speaker 1So you're paying these kids to help save you.
Speaker 2Yeah, to help save your lost loved ones. So that's kind of. If I'm butchering it, someone feel free to email us and I would love to hear your insight on it. We'll bring you on the show. You can explain it correctly, but that's the information I've gotten from it as far as history goes. Now, when we get it, this was brought over by predominantly Irish and Scots to America and they started practicing, or they would practice it every year, and then it kind of got popular in the 30s in America.
Speaker 2Oh for sure, so we haven't had trick-or-treating until like the 30s.
Speaker 3Have you seen those like vintage Halloween costumes?
Speaker 1Those really creepy ones, really creepy pumpkin stuff.
Speaker 3That's kind of funny.
Speaker 2So, but that's how it started. It started as a church holiday, right, it was predominantly Catholic practice and then as our country slowly moves away from identifying as Christians and into this vague I don't believe in anything or if I do, it's separate from everything else that I do kind of lifestyle. That's when we really start getting into the demonic Wiccan weird stuff that goes along with Halloween, now where we get it. So this holiday overall is kind of a back and forth Right, demonic church, christian, demonic church Christian. Like people go back and forth to where we're at today and I wrote this down in the notes and it was in an article I read from folks on the family Really good article. I think We'll share it in the post notes.
Speaker 2But Christians have three options when it comes to trick-or-treating. You can either embrace it, which is not really a good reason, like just embracing Halloween as an evil, dark holiday Not really a good reason as a Christian. Don't embrace it, like you don't embrace it. But you can either embrace it, you can reject it, have nothing to do with it, totally ignore it and do nothing about it, or redeem it and make it about God. How can I, how can I, disciple others through this holiday, people are coming to my house to get candy. Okay, well then let me let me offer to pray for them when I give them candy. Let me ask them how they're doing and if I can be praying for them or, um, you know, offering to give out Bibles with candy.
Speaker 2You know, some kids, they they're not in a Christian household and it's not because their parents are anti-Christian, it's because their parents are complacent and don't care. And so, offering a kid a Bible, their parents are probably going to be okay with it and that's probably the only Bible in their house. So they don't even know, you know. So that's huge, but you know, that's kind of where we're at today Vast majority of people that aren't going to church. It's not that they don't have a problem with God. It's not that they don't have a problem with God. It's that somewhere along the line in the past 20 years, their family just stopped going to church, and so they may acknowledge the existence of God, but they're not really following him and they don't really know him, and so they're okay with it. It's whatever to them, it's just not. Their life is not all about Jesus, like we're called, as Christians, to be, our lives are supposed to be about Christ, because Christ died for us so that we could live for him. And so, you know, as a Christian, you can participate in trick or treating in the sense of let's redeem it for Christ, let's make it a missional opportunity. So I thought that was really good.
Speaker 2But I have some stats that have to do with Halloween. We love numbers. Okay, I want you guys Good numbers. I want you to guess what was projected spending for Halloween for 2023. How much do you think the country of America was going to spend on Halloween?
Speaker 1So this is total candy decorations the electric costumes. Electric bill for all these lights they have on their house. Spend on Halloween. So this is total candy decorations the electric costumes, the electric bill for all these lights they have on their house the inflatable link. And this is all across America. Yep, alright, I'll let you go first, janelle, and I'll tell you the correct answer.
Speaker 3It's gonna be a really big number People like to spend money. I'm gonna to be bold and say $1 billion.
Speaker 1Whoa, I'm going to say $16 billion.
Speaker 2Whoa.
Speaker 3Whoa.
Speaker 2No, you're both. You're too high, you're too low. 12.2 billion hold on now was projected for 2013. I was pretty close.
Speaker 1I did go over, but you you busted, you busted, I busted, but dang, I was pretty close yeah, I guess that was good, but they also said that 68% of Americans plan to hand out candy to trick-or-treaters.
Speaker 260% of parents help themselves to some of their children's Halloween haul. This says that it was $7 and some change was the average retail price of a pumpkin, which was up 22% from 2021.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, Pumpkin carving. Yeah, it was something I only started doing.
Speaker 2Shut up. Pumpkin prices shut up. I don't think I've ever carved a pumpkin.
Speaker 3I've done it a few times, but it was definitely something I started doing only recently.
Speaker 1Like whenever you were an adult who can make that decision for yourself.
Speaker 3Last year I made a pumpkin. That was a really sad face, and then I carved out the inside and made it smooth on the inside and then I put it on my head.
Speaker 2I feel like that's a really trendy internet video thing to do, like you wait till it's like kind of dusk and all the leaves are different colors, and then you put on a flannel and a pumpkin on your head.
Speaker 3That's literally what I did To take pictures.
Speaker 1These are my Instagram pumpkins.
Speaker 3It was incredibly predictable and then I had a friend who put on a bed sheet to make her look like a ghost and like some sunglasses, and then we took a photo shoot and it was like I think the caption was when your ghost girlfriend breaks up on, breaks up with you the night before halloween, or something like that when your ghost girlfriend breaks up with she ghosts you oh, very gen z of you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1Here's another statistic that I thought was hilarious terrible, but hilarious 13 million dollars in direct property damage caused by halloween house fires each year well you got to think of all this extra nonsense people plugging into their house I'm sure that there's probably a pretty high number around Christmas time too. You just put so much extra nonsense into your house for a holiday. Your house isn't built to put out that much electricity.
Speaker 3Can I share a story about Halloween decorations?
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2No. Which 53% of Americans plan to decorate their house for Halloween?
Speaker 3So taking it back to Hayden in Arizona, before she was in Arizona, she was here where we are.
Speaker 1Way to dox Hayden, but not yourself. Good job, thank you, thank you, good job.
Speaker 3So as a kid, when I went to spend the night at her house for the first time, it was around Halloween and so they had decorations up and like we never decorated for Halloween, or like I was so like not used to Halloween decorations- Now, do you think that was because of your Christian background or the fact that you can't see your house from the road? I think it was the fact that my mom was very much like no, like she didn't. Well, we didn't really decorate them. I was kidding.
Speaker 2Yeah, but to Janelle's point, for those who didn't know, our childhood home, you didn't need to decorate it.
Speaker 3It's spooky enough, that's true, the amount of friends that were like oh can you come pick me up?
Speaker 2It's on a hill in the middle of the woods with a long driveway and there's no lights Funny, so anyone? Yeah, we never got trick-or-treaters growing up? No, we didn't Never. One, because we're on a side road, but two, no one would walk up our driveway.
Speaker 1So my grandmother's house growing up is two houses from yours. That's how we met. I think we talked about that. Yep, she never got trick-or-treaters and her front yard was wide open. Yeah, it was just the street, so you could see it.
Speaker 2Yeah, but it was also a really long driveway.
Speaker 3It was really long Longer than ours, that's true. Anyway, so she had these Halloween decorations that were motion censored. They were these on like a ledge by the door, the front door, and so they were motion censored and would talk when there was like someone at your door. And so I remember the very first time going to her house, I was standing there with dad and the head started talking and then all of a sudden she opened the door right as the head started talking. So I had like one jump scare from this Halloween decoration and then a second jump scare from her, like ripping the door open and like kind of just going, like hey, like out of screaming, and then like running away from the door and I looked at my dad. I was like maybe I don't want to spend the night.
Speaker 1And then that was why she moved to Arizona.
Speaker 2Yes and then that was why she moved to arizona. Yes, can I just I you know. What stat I want to know is how many halloween decorations, like house decorations, trigger ptsd for veterans.
Speaker 1That's what I want to know. How many of them are bombs going off?
Speaker 2well, but no, just the jump will spoil you and trigger you into a panic attack right Right.
Speaker 2You know, because a lot of stuff it's not like people are blowing up, but I mean like a lot of it has to do with just the trauma of surprise and attack. You know, in the field doing things, yeah, your fight or flight, it's just the trauma of action and then just things will set you off and you have high anxiety and stuff. So I want to know how many want to know how many veterans does it affect? I?
Speaker 3feel like I'm not a veteran, but I definitely get affected. I jump very, very easily. Halloween creates PTSD.
Speaker 1I would have loved to had you on last week's episode talking about the haunted houses as well. We're not going to get into that.
Speaker 3I've never been and I don't know if I will.
Speaker 1I'm not jumpy, but I think you would do awful in one of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't, don't do it. Yeah, listen to last week's episode and then you'll learn something I do want to bring up.
Speaker 2so this is something. This is the number one thing that I have against Halloween. So this statistic page that I have For 2023, 1.4 million children planned to dress up as a witch, compared to 5.8 million adults planned to dress up as a witch. So a lot of people are dressing up as witches and here's the deal that goes into kind of what we were talking about last week with this stuff's real and it is demonic. So there's a lot of things that revolve around Halloween that into kind of what we were talking about last week with this stuff's real and it is demonic. So there's a lot of things that revolve around Halloween that are kind of ambiguous and you kind of got to, as a family, make your own decisions, but this is something. Thank you.
Speaker 2I'm a Bible upside down. Turn around, yeah, but this is something that is directly like no, it's not an ambiguous thing. Like yeah, you can dress up as a witch and it's not a big deal, or no, you can't dress up as a witch. It's flat out no. Practicing witchcraft is a no. As a Christian, you cannot get into the demonic, spiritual side of things, because we're called to be in the light, as christ is in the light, and the things that happen in wiccan are of satan. So, um, so, yeah, so the bible verse that I have for that is deuteronomy. It's deuteronomy 18 um, and it is. I had it and now I gotta find it. I hate when I do this. Are you in chapter?
Speaker 2are you in the book of Deuteronomy. I'm in the book of Deuteronomy, are you?
Speaker 1in chapter 18.
Speaker 2I am in chapter 18.
Speaker 1Alright, then you need to find your verse.
Speaker 2I believe it's 10 and 11. So, yeah, so there shall not be found among you Anyone who maketh his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or who useth divination, or any observer of times or an enchanter or a witch, or a charmer or a consulter of mediums or a wizard or a necromancer. Um, for all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord. Altar of mediums or a wizard or a necromancer? Um, for all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord, and because of these abominations, the Lord, thy God, doth drive them out from before thee. So you know? Deuteronomy, old Testament.
Speaker 2A lot of people like to play the bad God card or weak, mean, mean, evil God. Old Testament, testament. God's a mean God and it's not true. Deuteronomy has a lot of law for his new nation of Israel who's coming into the land, and he's setting the ground rules. For, hey, do not practice these practices, do not do these things, because they are anti me.
Speaker 2Um, practicing witchcraft, practicing divination, practicing, you know, mediums, going into the spiritual realm, summoning spirits, all these different things, these are things that are done, um, with a lack of trust in God. I'm like I don't trust God, I don't need God. I can do this on my own. I can look into the spiritual realm and pull out what I need to pull out for myself. And it's taking trust away from trusting in God and trusting in yourself. And it also locks hands with human sacrifice. Let me make that clear.
Speaker 2All those practices witchcraft, mediums, divination, necromancy it all locks hands with human sacrifice. In the time that Israel was coming into the land, there was a lot of human sacrifice, specifically children. People would offer their children unto different gods for this, for their own selfish, sacred purposes, um, and they would use some of the byproduct of human sacrifice for their rituals which? Which rituals? Ne which rituals? Necromancy, divinations, all those things. Today it's, it's hidden pretty good, but if you really get into the deep, occult stuff, like the really hardcore guys, they're looking for human things, blood, body parts and stuff for their cultural rituals. So it's still practiced today. It's not happening on the street, as far as we know, not here Depends on where you are.
Speaker 2Yeah, some places it is a practice that has no regard for the sacredness of God, including his sacred creation, humanity. God created us in his image and he made it very clear it's an abomination to kill unrighteously, just to kill someone. To kill somebody or to kill someone for selfish ambition is wrong. God makes that clear. He doesn't like death. To begin with, it's something that he had to bring into the world for justice and so, because God's just God and so he takes it very seriously, the shedding of human blood can only be done in a righteous scenario, otherwise it's wrong. The shedding of human blood can only be done in a righteous scenario, otherwise it's wrong. The only reason it's tolerable for a righteous is because of sin, like if someone's a sinner and is attacking God or rejecting God's authority by fighting against God. God has to. It's not that he rejoices in it or gets joy out of it. God has to be a just God and he has to exact judgment on wrongdoing, on breaking the law.
Speaker 1Isn't it typically too, in large numbers, that that's happening? It's not a lot of cases. I know individuals, but a lot of times it is large groups. You know the whole world in the beginning with the flood in sodom and gomorrah, whole city.
Speaker 2It's large people that are destroyed large groups of people. Yeah, and it's not not anyone's innocent, because we get to see that in the story with sodom and gomorrah, the entire valley's wiped out. But abraham intercedes with god asking if he'll spare the city if he finds a minimum of five righteous people, or is it ten?
Speaker 2well, it keeps on going, yeah he started going down, but I think he cuts that off at five or ten. I'll have to go back and look. It was five. But the point is there's not even five people that fear God in the entire valley of Sodom and Gomorrah. And so God does not withhold his righteousness, but he plucks out Lot, which is Abraham's nephew. Yeah, he pulls him out from the wicked city, but once again it's not like there's a lot of good people that just get caught in the crossfire. Everyone is bad. They're hurting each other. There's murder, there's rape.
Speaker 3Slapping each other with fish Slapping each other. It's a VeggieTales reference.
Speaker 2I was about to say? Is that a VeggieTales? That was Nineveh, my Slapping each other with fish, slapping each other it's a VeggieTales reference I was about to say.
Speaker 3Is that a VeggieTales?
Speaker 2reference. That was Nineveh. My bad, my bad. Anyways, yeah, there's a lot of bad stuff that was happening, so God has to make judgments. But today, dude, I'm not going to shy away from it we are practicing human sacrifice in abortions. Planned Parenthood is just the temple where people go to offer their babies up for their own selfishness. And then those babies are not just being like, disposed of, they're using those parts for wickedness. You can you gotta go through some channels, but you can buy human parts for things so gross, it's disgusting and it's an abomination. And God says have nothing to do with it. So that's my big thing. I know it's kind of a tangent going downhill for trick-or-treating, but don't dress up as a witch, have nothing to do with. The occult is what I'm trying to get at, because it is very real and it is very active in the world today and we may have to talk about um in week seven or eight.
Speaker 2Harry potter because, that's another big thing, that christ battle.
Speaker 1Well, I mean, I guess aren't we planning on doing so? We did haunted houses trick-or-treating. And then let's do media in general, Halloween media.
Speaker 3Okay.
Speaker 1And so that'll fall into that. We'll lump it in there with everything else.
Speaker 3Yeah, because it really is media that makes wicked and evil things more palatable when you take a witch and make her Hermione Granger and then you make it a cute little. You know you protagonize it.
Speaker 1You make it nice and it's cute.
Speaker 3Make it cute, Even you know.
Speaker 1Make it the hero. What is?
Speaker 3it. Studio Ghibli, kiki's Delivery Service. She's a witch, she's a little girl, but she's like, yeah, I'm practicing to be a witch and it's a super cute movie, and then that's just in it. So that's definitely.
Speaker 1Yeah, so we'll get on that next week oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3No it's crazy and the amount of people that really don't realize that witchcraft. Still it's very thriving. I think there's a fad of people, with people in my generation specifically yeah being super into the occult, probably because the internet makes it a bit more the internet makes anything also like they memefy it.
Speaker 1So it's a joke, it's, it's silly little things. It's not something that's harmful to you, yeah, so the internet.
Speaker 2We've talked about this. It can be a great tool for the gospel, but it can also be a facilitator of darkness. It's taken these niche really small, obscure groups and given them an avenue to explode and reach people in ways they were never able to. So things like the alphabet community, the furry community, all these things that are like hey, god didn't create you that way. You are beautiful in the way God created you. You don't need to find affirmation from other people. Find it in God, because he loves you. He loves you way more than anyone else could.
Speaker 2But these communities are pretty good about picking out vulnerable people and targeting them and then adopting them into their groups, and that's what a lot of Wiccan is. A lot of them aren't even openly like I worship Satan. It's not that for them, it's they worship the earth. They worship just things in creation, because they don't believe in the existence of God, or they believe everything is God, and so they worship everything because everything is God. There is the small group that is like yeah, no, satan's real and I serve him, but most of people inside of Wiccan are just no that's not what.
Speaker 2I do.
Speaker 1I'm not a witch, I'm a Wiccan, you know.
Speaker 2Yeah, but the idea is it's earth worship. I'm going to worship creation or things in creation.
Speaker 3I knew a girl who was in my small group at church and she mentioned that like she kind of had a kick of witchcraft because she felt like she didn't quite fit in with people at church and she, she was tempted by the community that came along with witchcraft. She was like, oh, being a part of a coven, that sounds kind of cool because I get to dress up and, you know, wear flower crowns and dance around in the field and, I don't know, do a little magic.
Speaker 2So it was like, which christians can do too christians can dress up and wear flower crowns and dance in fields praising jesus amen, and that's what she did with us at the small group, so that was good.
Speaker 3She had a very good story. But there are so many people who for this, that or the other, don't feel don't find a connection within a Christian community, so they go. They try to find it somewhere else.
Speaker 2And if that's you, if you're struggling to find community in Christ, I want to introduce you to Saints that Serve Come on. We're here to be your community. Join us.
Speaker 1When you're handing out your trick-or-treat candy, instead of giving them candy, give them a piece of paper with a QR code on it that leads them to the Saints that Serve website.
Speaker 2Well, now we've got to print a bunch of things. No, but seriously, though, if you're lacking community, reach out. We want to plug you in and we want to be a part of your life. We want you to know the love of Jesus and you don't have to go somewhere where someone's going to drag you into the darkness of the world to feel accepted. We accept you here as you are, because Christ accepts you as you are and wants to reveal the truth and wants to reveal true love to you and give you that birth in the spirit. We talked about that at church today being born again in the spirit, and that's what God has extended to humanity. You can be born again and free from sin and death and live in the spirit, and that's where the true joy comes from is being in the presence of God. God loves you and he wants to redeem you, so come on board.
Speaker 3That's something that I love about Christian community, specifically in opposition to other groups and communities, is because you know most groups nowadays you hear preaching this well, we accept you as you are. Message, but with what comes with, Christianity is yes, come as you are, but don't leave as you were.
Speaker 3Like you come and then you're transformed, like as you behold Jesus, as you are, but don't leave as you were. You come and then you're transformed as you behold Jesus, as you look at Jesus. We come together and we walk this road of becoming more like Jesus together. So I hope that anyone who comes in contact with me who is a fellow believer, they leave that meeting more encouraged and chasing after the Lord even more and becoming holier, and so it's almost like, well, yeah, come as you are, but who's to say but we want you to improve.
Speaker 3Well, we also want you to improve rather than just like oh you're miserable, okay, stay that way.
Speaker 2We want you to live in the identity that you were created to have. You were created to be a child of God, and so we want you to live in that identity, not in this depressed, full of anxiety, self-centered lifestyle that the world preaches. Cool, cool, I've got a game for us to play.
Speaker 1I love games.
Speaker 2It's a mini game. It's called Guess my Nostalgia. Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 3I love nostalgia, okay.
Speaker 2So Jairus and I have already had time to think about this and I've got our answers.
Speaker 1Why didn't you reach out to her?
Speaker 3Why didn't you do this. That's okay, I'm quick on my feet.
Speaker 2Well, because originally the way I was thinking, like the way we're going to play this is Janelle has to answer all of them, but I guess she could play too. I guess you could be like, guess my nostalgia.
Speaker 1Hold on, let's do it. Let's do it how you built it, and then, after the questions are asked, then we have to guess her answer.
Speaker 2Are you ready?
Speaker 3I'm ready.
Speaker 2Question number one, and this is you're answering.
Speaker 3They're separate for each of us so I have to guess what your answer would be and what your answer would be yeah, okay.
Speaker 2So what is my favorite superhero? Um, you can guess for me first.
Speaker 3Oh no. I feel like you don't talk about superheroes that much.
Speaker 2I still have a favorite one.
Speaker 3Can I ask a follow-up question?
Speaker 2I guess maybe.
Speaker 3Marvel or DC.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, marvel.
Speaker 1Marvel, okay, same for me, marvel Jairus is going to be like super niche and obscure or DC.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, marvel, marvel, okay, same for me, marvel, both of them. Charis is going to be super niche and obscure.
Speaker 2I already know it Okay, just throw a guess you said Marvel, mm-hmm, just name one the Hulk. Alright. Do you want to try and guess? Just name one, the Hulk, All right. Do you want to try and guess One of your sons? Do you want to try and guess Jairus, real quick.
Speaker 3There's this one character that I think is a superhero that I think you were obsessed with. I don't think it was Marvel, I think it was some other.
Speaker 2Oh, you're talking about Watchmen.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Watchmen. He likes that series, but that's not his favorite.
Speaker 3Oh, okay.
Speaker 1As funny as I almost put that.
Speaker 3Yes, I knew the answer that better than you, but I'm like no one's going to know who that is, so I changed it to this one, because I also really like this hero. I don't know, I also really like this hero. No, I'm not going to know Spider-Man, I don't know. Ding ding, ding, ding.
Speaker 1Really? Yes, I put down Spider-Man.
Speaker 3My answer was Thor. Oh, I should have known that that makes sense.
Speaker 2I feel like that's written on my face. I'm not a big superhero guy.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, okay. Question number two Favorite Super Smash Bro character, not Brawl, just Super Smash.
Speaker 1Oh, in general, or could? That's the one you gave me right.
Speaker 2Or is that wrong.
Speaker 1No, the one I gave you is from the most the most recent game has every character in the past game. The most recent game, super Smash Bros Ultimate. Okay, we most recent game, super Smash Brothers Ultimate.
Speaker 2Okay, we'll go with Super Smash Brothers Ultimate.
Speaker 1Because that unifies all possible characters.
Speaker 3Yeah, that definitely helps me with my answer.
Speaker 2Me, someone who has never played this game before.
Speaker 3No, I'm playing it. Okay, it's been a long time, though.
Speaker 2What do you think Jairus' favorite Super Smash Ultimate?
Speaker 1character is Look me in the eye, uh-huh, and truly think about this.
Speaker 3Um.
Speaker 1Because if you don't get it, you'll be really upset.
Speaker 3Princess Peach.
Speaker 2I like the way she floats.
Speaker 1I like her umbrella Um.
Speaker 3What is it?
Speaker 1Go guess John's first.
Speaker 3I'm going to go speed round Kirby.
Speaker 2Oh, that's a really good guess. I almost put that down, but no, okay, the only reason is because that's like my second pick every time I play this Kirby. Is it because he's pink. No, because he's really easy to play.
Speaker 3Yeah, he is.
Speaker 1I can be any character with this character.
Speaker 2I'm just going to suck you in and spit you out every time, all right.
Speaker 1Are you Mario? Am I Mario?
Speaker 2Yes, no, I'm not. You're close though, luigi. No, okay.
Speaker 3Wario no. Is that a character? No, okay.
Speaker 2Wario. No, is that a character? Okay, mine is Donkey Kong.
Speaker 1Okay, hold on. Okay, now you're going to be mad. Think about it One more try. It's not hard. Truly think about it.
Speaker 2What is a part of Jairus' identity?
Speaker 3A part of your identity.
Speaker 1It's not hard.
Speaker 3You're overthinking it I feel like you decorate your house with this character. Yes, and yet it's blanking from Yoshi what?
Speaker 1I don't know, Janelle. They added Sora as a character in Kingdom Hearts.
Speaker 3Oh my gosh, I literally in my head. I was like is it a Kingdom Hearts character? Yes, it is.
Speaker 2Is it Goofy? Uh-huh, uh, yes, it is. Is it Goofy? Oh yuck.
Speaker 3Oh, boy yeah like that was like. Is it the two little kids that are annoying?
Speaker 1No, it's literally Sora from Kingdom Hearts.
Speaker 2All right, I thought those were going to be the easy ones.
Speaker 3Sorry, all right.
Speaker 2question number three what is my favorite pizza at Stevie B's Pizza?
Speaker 3Okay, is it the potato pizza?
Speaker 1I was literally going to say potato For me.
Speaker 3For you.
Speaker 1It's for me. Oh, by the way, real quick. Anybody listening? Stevie B's is a local pizza place.
Speaker 3Yeah, we grew up going to Stevie.
Speaker 2B's. It's kind of southeast.
Speaker 3It's kind of dwindled back down to just one spot for the most part now, but it is an all-you-can-eat pizza buffet and they've got a bunch of different kinds of games room.
Speaker 2Yes, a very small arcade anyways. Okay. So you think mine is potato pizza? Yeah, all right. And for jairus, what do you think Jairus' favorite pizza?
Speaker 3is Jairus' favorite pizza from Stevie B's is the s'mores dessert pizza.
Speaker 1Actually that is an option. Right, I put hot wings pizza and s'mores pizza.
Speaker 3Yay, let's go, there you go. Good job, look at that. I loved the mac and cheese pizza.
Speaker 1That is a good one, I almost put that, but last time I had it it wasn't that good.
Speaker 3Okay, conspiracy theory. Stevie B's serves pasta and yet it's different pasta than the pasta they put on their mac and cheese pizza.
Speaker 1Why is that? Probably because it's like probably pre-made pizza.
Speaker 2I don't know about that, because it's the swirlies.
Speaker 3Ever think about it.
Speaker 2We were just there last week and now I'm having to it's the straight. So if you get the pasta with the I'm having to envision in my mind-.
Speaker 3The really watery white sauce. Then it's like straight, like penne pasta.
Speaker 2No no, no, there's two kinds of noodles. They have two noodles, and then they have two sauces, and the mac and cheese pizza that they make has the swirly noodles. Maybe I'm tripping.
Speaker 3I don't know, maybe the swirly noodles, maybe I'm tripping, I don't know.
Speaker 1Maybe you need to eat there more.
Speaker 3Maybe I need to go back.
Speaker 1But you know, get up, you've tripped.
Speaker 2Yeah, good one, all right, question number four Okay, and people should know what Dairy Queen is.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2That is not a local.
Speaker 3I feel like we've already mentioned Dairy Queen so much.
Speaker 2But for context dairy queen was the local spot for ice cream.
Speaker 3For us growing up like that, it hit. There's a regal shenanigans feel, filmed at dairy queen.
Speaker 2Yeah but it hit home. Dairy queen is like is like the. Oh yeah, I'm going to dairy queen to get a dip cone. You know what I mean. All right, anyways, favorite dairy queen, blizzard favorite dairy queen blizzard.
Speaker 3Favorite Dairy Queen Blizzard. There's a lot of Blizzard flavors.
Speaker 2There are, but mine's super basic.
Speaker 3Is it a Reese's Cup Blizzard?
Speaker 2No. What do you think Jerusalem?
Speaker 3is Probably something Weird with nuts or something. Why Academian?
Speaker 2Probably something weird with nuts or something. Why Acadamian?
Speaker 1My favorite BQ Blizzard is the. S'mores Blizzard. It comes with a little Sora toy in it.
Speaker 3Yours is. I don't even know if this is a flavor, but I'm just going to say it. Strawberry Cheesecake Blizzard. That is a flavor, but I'm just going to say it Strawberry.
Speaker 1Cheesecake Blizzard. That is a flavor, though, is it that sounds?
Speaker 2amazing. That actually sounds good, but no, that's not it His is Butterfingers.
Speaker 3Oh, I was going to say that you should have said it.
Speaker 2Then I should have said it you should just go with what's on your gut, yeah, and then mine's Oreo, oh Oreo is really basic. Oreo is really basic. I was thinking too hard. Really good.
Speaker 1Don't again. I feel like your problem with these questions, when answering them, is you're overthinking it.
Speaker 3That's just my problem in life, Jairus. So, thanks for bringing that up.
Speaker 2No problem, thanks for exposing me and making me vulnerable. All right, question number five Favorite Marvel movie.
Speaker 3Favorite Marvel movie. Favorite Marvel movie.
Speaker 1Here's my hint it does not have my favorite superhero in it.
Speaker 3Okay, there's also a lot of Marvel movies.
Speaker 2There are.
Speaker 3I'm going to say there are. I'm going to say, oh, I've seen all of them. I'm going to say Johnny's is Guardians of the Galaxy, volume 1.
Speaker 1Okay, no, okay, can I make a guess? Yeah, go for it, thor Ragnarok.
Speaker 3Wow, he got it. No, I was literally thinking Thor Ragnarok. I need to just go with my first guess cool, you were talking about Thor.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's not. I literally. I was like oh, I wonder if it's Thor Ragnarok, that's a great movie it's a good movie that director is a really good director except when he did Love and Thunder, he didn't do a great okay, not Love and Thunder films are incredible.
Speaker 2A lot of them are.
Speaker 3What we do in the shadows. That was the first R-rated movie I watched and it was At your House. Oh, don't bring that up. Sorry, sorry, mom.
Speaker 2We are redeemed, but it's because those New Zealanders have potty mouths. That's true. That's why it was rated R.
Speaker 3Okay, Jairus' favorite Marvel.
Speaker 2We're werewolves, not swearwolves, that's incredible.
Speaker 3Jairus's favorite Marvel movie is the very first Avengers movie.
Speaker 1I did enjoy that movie and my Wait.
Speaker 2The Incredible Hulk.
Speaker 3No.
Speaker 2Oh, you mean the. Avengers Avengers Assemble no.
Speaker 1I'll give you another guess. I'll give you another guess. I'll give you a hint.
Speaker 3Did we go to see it in theaters together?
Speaker 1No, my favorite Marvel movie is part of the core five or six what was it? Six original Avengers.
Speaker 3Is it the oh, is it one of the Iron man movies?
Speaker 1It is not one of the.
Speaker 3Iron man movies.
Speaker 2Oh man, no, it's Captain America, winter Soldier. Captain.
Speaker 3America Winter Soldier. Really, that is the best, the one with the elevator scene oh my God Going up.
Speaker 1So good, such a good move that is pretty good.
Speaker 2Last one.
Speaker 3Okay.
Speaker 2Question number six Favorite cartoon to watch when you were a kid. Your go-to for me, I know, is going to be a PBS show, but hint is it's not a PBS show.
Speaker 3As a kid.
Speaker 2As a kid.
Speaker 3What age range are we talking about?
Speaker 2I don't know. We'll go 8 to 12.
Speaker 1Is it Bible man? That wasn't a cartoon. Oh, you're right, that's not a cartoon.
Speaker 3Oh, I'm glad you said that, because that low key was going to be my answer. Johnny loved Bible man.
Speaker 1Bible man was good, but it wasn't a cartoon. I loved as a child watching Attack on Titan.
Speaker 2I should have made that my favorite superhero. Bible man but for reals though, for realsies seriously go back and watch some of the Bible man movies.
Speaker 1They hit pretty good your favorite show was Superbook, superbook yeah, nope, superbook is Superbook.
Speaker 3Yeah, nope, never seen Superbook.
Speaker 1Superbook is the Bible.
Speaker 3Yeah, let's see, I'm going to go with Jairus first, because I feel like I know his answer more. Mm-hmm, yours was.
Speaker 1Hold on, hold on Hint what I'm going to give you a hint, my favorite show. My favorite cartoon watching as a child is a very long running series very old, very old, very long running series Betty Boop.
Speaker 3Tom and Jerry, yours is Betty Boop. No, I'm sorry, tom and Jerry, yours is oh, okay, I have top three answers.
Speaker 2No just one One.
Speaker 1Just go with your gut, hold on, you get two guesses.
Speaker 3Okay, number one Pokemon.
Speaker 1No, not that old.
Speaker 2Not that old, think older. That just came out when we were kids.
Speaker 3Oh really.
Speaker 1It came out in the 90s. Yeah, Pokemon come out in 98. Okay, this is significantly older Significantly yeah, significantly older, Because my other guess was going to be and again long running. They still make this cartoon.
Speaker 3My guess was going to be One no one piece again.
Speaker 1That's not a kid's card is it not?
Speaker 3I don't know really again. My other come out in the 90s my third one was gonna be dragon ball z no, again, I don't know you watched, still not. I wasn't alive all.
Speaker 2All right, well, but here hold on hold on the point is just my nostalgia.
Speaker 3Okay, mickey Mouse Clubhouse.
Speaker 1You are closer in this. You are closer with Tom and Jerry, betty Boo. Oh really, yeah, you're closer with those.
Speaker 3What's that? One British one Claymation. Is it Claymation you?
Speaker 2are so far away no.
Speaker 1Looney Tunes. I don't need to watch so much Looney Tunes. As a child, I would not have guessed that Looney Tunes started in the 20s Dang.
Speaker 3I really just watched.
Speaker 1Looney.
Speaker 3Tunes back in action.
Speaker 2You kept on throwing your life preserver, you kept on swimming away from it.
Speaker 1No, no, I insist on drowning guys.
Speaker 2And made Joe's legs. I'm gonna be Jack in this scenario.
Speaker 1Again, childhood is the key word there.
Speaker 2I don't know what they played in the 90s. Here's the clue for mine. Okay, so growing up we had local channels. We had like five channels. This came on once a week like in the middle of the day. I say, hey, no, it's not a PBS, it's not a PBS cartoon, and we barely picked the channel up. All right, it was, it wasn't a super long and they only had a couple of seasons.
Speaker 1But I want, we watched every, every single time it came out, we watched it I got a feeling me and janelle would have never heard of this show for some reason probably not, and but it is related to Pixar that gave it away right there.
Speaker 3To Pixar.
Speaker 2Mm-hmm, but it's a cartoon.
Speaker 1Wow, that threw me I feel like it's not related to Pixar.
Speaker 3It's related to Pixar, related to Pixar. Does that mean Pixar has come out with a movie with that.
Speaker 2I'm not going to elaborate. It's related to Pixar. Related to Pixar, does that mean Pixar has come out with a movie with that? I'm not going to elaborate. It's related to Pixar and it's a cartoon series.
Speaker 3Gosh, I was going to say something, but now I have no idea what to say.
Speaker 2What were you going to say?
Speaker 3I was going to say I think this was a book series, not a cartoon.
Speaker 1Oh, is it Redwall? How is that related to Pixar?
Speaker 3I don't know.
Speaker 2I was gonna say what is it called the adventures odyssey, or something like that the lord of the rings yeah, that's what I thought um with the rings cartoon that came out in the 70s wasn't a tv series, that was just a movie um, um pixar all right, we give up yeah, I don't know buzz lightyear of stark what I was not gonna guess that it was the only like disney cartoon that did not come on the disney channel. Do you know?
Speaker 3how? Is that stuck out in your mind enough now that you remember?
Speaker 2it.
Speaker 3I've never heard of this in my whole life.
Speaker 2For what short time it came out. It was the only PBS cartoon that we got to watch. It came out on a weekday, it was a Thursday. It came out Thursday afternoon at 4 o'clock. It's the only time that we got to watch TV during the week. It was a little bit more relaxed when you came into the picture. Tv was, but when I was a kid the TV was not on during the day, during the week, unless Lost was on.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 2Then the whole family gathered around and watched the episode.
Speaker 3We gathered and we watched Lost and I would stand behind the couch because I was like four years old watching Lost and so I'd be like terrified. So I would just like kind of crouch behind the couch and then like peek up. Once I thought it was okay.
Speaker 1Janelle wished she was lost when that show came on.
Speaker 2Well, let me take that back. So the TV was only on growing up during the day, either for that for buzz lightyear star command once a week, or whenever mom and dad were not home and our oldest brother would watch jerry springer wait, what that's?
Speaker 3crazy jerry springer to why, and he'd be like you guys can't watch tv leave, and we'd be like what the heck dude see I was like the tattletale sometimes well, no, not all the time, but um, on the weekends they would play like hannah montana reruns and I would be like we're not allowed to watch hannah montana and so they would, but the sisters would like ignore me and then I would go tell dad and he was like whatever so let me tell you this.
Speaker 1So the guy who voiced buzz lightyear in that show was Patrick Warburton, the guy who voices Kronk in Emperor's New Groove.
Speaker 3What that's incredible. That guy's a legend.
Speaker 1Yep, he is also the guy who does the opening for Soaring on. Soaring the Ride, the Ride. Soaring Great Boys. Who's ghost? All right boys, buckle up. Yeah, he's the pilot. Soaring the ride, the ride, soaring Great.
Speaker 2Poison Kuzco's. Alright, boys Buckle up. Yeah, he's the pilot. He comes out and gives the pilot intro.
Speaker 3The poison for Kuzco.
Speaker 2Okay, so yeah, gets my nostalgia so.
Speaker 3I guess I didn't do that great of a job you did, alright, another one of my.
Speaker 2Top cartoons Was from the cartoon network and it was samurai jack which they took. How, how long did they take to close it out?
Speaker 1like so they ended on a season four and it took them like 15. Randomly. They randomly just come out like, yeah, we're gonna finish out the story. Where before the show on Samurai Jack was kind of like a monster of the week, like single episode stories and they kind of had an overall arching story, out of the blue they're just like and now we're going to make 10 episode, season five, to close out this whole story. The villain of that show was voiced by the guy who voiced Uncle Iroh in Avatar, the Last Airbender, yeah, so like when he came back because he died, they come back. I think it was the guy who did his voice, the new guy who did Uncle Iroh's voice at the end of season three or whatever. It's the same guy who voiced him in season five of Samurai Jack.
Speaker 2But, like the first four seasons of Samurai Jack, are like late 90s, early 2000s, so the audience is young. They finished out the story in like 2016,. 2015 is when they came out with season five, and it was adults.
Speaker 1So it came on Adult Swim. It was hyper violent but it was really good. It was really good. I remember watching that because we had everybody over. To finish it out, we downloaded all the episodes we were in the trailer and the finale was just being vague, because it should be watched. The ending is depressing and I remember it ends and John gives up and he's like you all suck. This was awful.
Speaker 3I'm going home and then I walk into the bedroom and close the door.
Speaker 2It ends and John gets up and he's like you all suck.
Speaker 1This was awful. I'm going home.
Speaker 3And then I walk into the bedroom and close the door.
Speaker 1It was such a good show.
Speaker 2I just want to make that claim here and now on the podcast when my wife and I lived in the trailer. I didn't realize that when we lived there, but there was a lot of people coming in and out of our house all the time, like because that was our first house together as a married couple, young married couple, and I don't know.
Speaker 1I mean, you were there like what, like twice a week so your house, compared to me, was about a 45 minute drive from where I was living, but it was also close to our then church and our then job. So I would just go over to your house or whatever after church or on the weekends. You had your own bedroom. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1I also would be in that bedroom and then I'd stay there some nights and just go to work the next day because of how close it was to that then job, because how many times have we worked together at a job At the pizza place twice? And then the parts repair place.
Speaker 2Yeah, so I think that's it. I mean, and then obviously you know we were youth leaders.
Speaker 1Yeah, the church is not really a job. I don't count anything. I don't get paid as a leaders. Yeah, the church is not really a job, I don't count anything.
Speaker 3I don't get paid as a job.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't really. I don't really look at ministry as a job either. I know you do work, but I don't look at it as a uh career given given take.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2So anyways cool.
Speaker 3Cool, yeah, well, okay.
Speaker 1Real quick. I'm going to rapid fire this Janelle's. Let's see if I get any of these right.
Speaker 3Are you guessing mine?
Speaker 1Yeah. Favorite superhero Spider-Man oh, favorite Super Smash Brothers Kirby. Favorite pizza at Stevie B's Macaroni and cheese. Favorite blizzard at Dairy Queen. You're not letting her answer. I'm going to rapid fire, and then she Queen. You're not letting her answer. I'm going to rapid fire, and then she's not going to remember all of them. Yeah, I'm not Okay, just say I got them all right. Then, okay, start over. You said no to Spider-Man, so it's going to be Loki.
Speaker 3No.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 3That's not a superhero, it's like an anti-hero.
Speaker 1He has his own show, so he is a hero. I need a hero. Smash Brothers character Kirby.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Yes. Favorite pizza at Stevie B's Hot wing pizza. No, okay, favorite Blizzard at Day Queen.
Speaker 3Oreo. My go-to was Butterfinger, actually for a long time.
Speaker 1I haven't been in a long time. Rewind, okay, butterfinger.
Speaker 3Ding, ding, ding Got it.
Speaker 1All right, Favorite Marvel superhero movie.
Speaker 3I'm going to say um, I've seen a lot of them.
Speaker 1All of them, guardians of the Galaxy. Part two.
Speaker 3No, okay.
Speaker 1Favorite cartoon.
Speaker 3It was the one I didn't see in theaters actually.
Speaker 1What was that cartoon about Egner, al and Poe that you loved watching? Huh, yeah, it was um well, it was Now.
Speaker 3that is niche.
Speaker 1No hold on. Do you know what I'm talking?
Speaker 3about I do, and that was like a phase that I had.
Speaker 1I remember you watching that a lot. Yeah, I'm going through my anger. So it was like no, literally.
Speaker 3I had an Edgar Allen Poe phase.
Speaker 1Well, there was, like it wasn't Edgar Allen Poe, it was like it was like characters in the show were based off of his poem. And I remember bringing that up to you and you're like nuh-uh, Nuh-uh Because I think you would have gotten in trouble.
Speaker 3No, I definitely would have.
Speaker 1But it was like that gothic.
Speaker 3It was a gothic style.
Speaker 1Gothic style and his bird.
Speaker 3It was a female there were three crows and their names were Edgar, alan and Alan and Poe.
Speaker 1That's what, but it was like, just like so that's not my favorite though. Okay, what's?
Speaker 3your favorite show, so as a child when I was thinking about it. Two answers came to mind, but I chose the one that was like the most longstanding avatar. Last airbender was definitely. We watched it like all the time. Like as soon as we would finish watching book three, we would restart book one. Book three we would restart book one. But honorable mention was a show that Johnny and I watched together quite a bit, which was the Jackie Chan Adventures.
Speaker 1I loved that show as a child. Dude.
Speaker 3It was so good I ran them like a year ago or something.
Speaker 2The Chinese response to Pokemon.
Speaker 3I like randomly found it on some. I think it was like Amazon Prime or something.
Speaker 1We got to get all the Zodiac announcements and it was still good. It was still good. Some. I think it was like Amazon Prime or something.
Speaker 3We gotta get all the Zodiac announcements. And it was still good.
Speaker 1It was still good, it's still a good show, and it's so funny to me that they didn't just get Jackie Chan to voice his character. It's literally Jackie Chan, like they couldn't afford it. But he's in the show. At the end of every episode they interview him and he talks about things that happen in the show. Oh yeah. Wait, it was a completely different person. Oh, I know why you want to know why?
Speaker 2Why? Because Jackie Chan's English is not as good as it could have been. They needed someone who had good English but had a little bit of a Chinese accent.
Speaker 3Especially for Jackie Chan has a hard Chinese accent with decent English. Especially for an animated series rather than live action.
Speaker 1I used to watch that a lot as well. That was fun.
Speaker 2Okay, what was the gothic cartoon? You watched a lot.
Speaker 3No, no, no. Avatar. Last Airbender was my favorite.
Speaker 2No, no, okay, but what was that cartoon? What were you? Edgar Allan Poe thing? I have no idea what you guys were.
Speaker 3Honestly don't remember what the name of it was, but it was about this girl. It was a gothics animation style.
Speaker 2Is it extraordinary? Is that the name of it?
Speaker 3No, oh, it was her name, I think.
Speaker 2Was it a.
Speaker 3And she would go. She had friends.
Speaker 2Or was it I?
Speaker 3watched it on Netflix. It had episodes and it was like she would go around to her friends to try to help them with their problems. But all of her friends were like kind of crazy, like this one girl.
Speaker 2That girl is crazy Cressa girl.
Speaker 3She had a rain cloud over her like all the time and she would just cry.
Speaker 2Aww.
Speaker 3That was when I was going through puberty and I was so all over the place.
Speaker 1Look at me, guys. I'm so edgy.
Speaker 3I'm edgy. I like Edgar Allen Poe.
Speaker 2Yeah, I watched a lot of it's a weird thing, yeah.
Speaker 3I watched a lot of TV as a kid, so I have a lot of-.
Speaker 2I wore sweatbands when I was coming of age.
Speaker 1I can't find it in my minimum searching.
Speaker 2We would just-. No, but it wasn't just me, it was everybody you know in our circle but we would have sweatbands, like for your wrists, and we'd wear them like quarter arm or whatever. Not for like sweat Like just to look cool, just as decor. Yeah, guys look at me I work out. No, it was because they were cheaper than actual bracelets, and so we would get them and wear them.
Speaker 3Something funny about our family. Because there's so many of us, I felt like everyone had to have their thing when it came to like how they dressed, to like stand out, do you, would you agree with that?
Speaker 2I'll, I'll agree with it, but at the same time I don't, because I don't. I never looked at that that way.
Speaker 3Oh, like I never see at that that way. Oh, like I never To see it as a way to stand out.
Speaker 2Yeah, I never was like I'm going to dress this way so that I'm different from all my siblings. I was kind of just like, well, everybody else is wearing black, I guess I'll wear black just because it was like I want to be a part of my friend group.
Speaker 3I just remember like all of us were very compared to, I guess, our social circles, we were considered the like oh, they're wearing like they're kind of like the trendsetter.
Speaker 2We're the edgy, cool kids. Alright, we're gonna wrap this up with our final thing Creepy pasta. Creepy pasta Today is a very childish one, meaning very child-friendly, and it has to do hold on for those who are listening.
Speaker 1What is creepy pasta?
Speaker 2elevator pitch go creepy pasta is basically a cryptid of the internet. It is a ominous creature or figure or concept that is posted to the internet and that's where it exists. It does not. It's not like actual things in the real world okay, it exists on the internet, like to the point, to where people are like, yeah, it's happening in my computer right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2Yeah, so it's like how people have bigfoot sightings and alien abductions. It's the same with creepypastas, but it's only inside their computer, it's like the minecraft, like they'll be on Orm or they'll be playing anything.
Speaker 1Yeah, the Herobrine.
Speaker 2Herobrine, which is what our creepypasta is.
Speaker 1Is it really Herobrine?
Speaker 3Let's go, let's go yeah.
Speaker 1I literally just pulled that out, Like because I know you play a lot of Minecraft. I was like, what's the one? Oh cool, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2So it is Hero. Brian. Do you want to talk about it, since you know about it?
Speaker 3No I.
Speaker 2Do you know what he does Like? What brought him about?
Speaker 3I just know that he looks like Minecraft Steve, but his eyes are glowing.
Speaker 2Glowing, white, glowing white, Yep, glowing white. All right, Jairus do you want to.
Speaker 1I don't know the details of Hero, brian, as much as I know that it's just like one of those things that was created to scare kids who are playing a children's game. Like I think that like, if you're sitting there playing the game, you might see a, a character off in the distance and it looks like Steve and it's like he's haunting me. You know stuff like that. I know that in the patch notes every time for the longest time. I don't know if they still do this, but anytime you read the patch notes for the newest update from Minecraft, it'd always be, and we've removed Herobrine. It didn't actually mean anything, it's just they added that in the notes to like as a joke.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 2Well, the idea is he is Steve, but with white glowing eyes, and he would show up in single player games.
Speaker 3In the woods right.
Speaker 2Just anywhere To haunt the game and he had a couple other weird things that he did, but this was made popular by it was anonymously posted on a 4chan thread. Talked about 4chan last week.
Speaker 1I feel like that's where Don't go there.
Speaker 2Yeah, don't go there, but that's where a lot of creepypastas come into existence. But he is made popular once again by live streamers Right who would allegedly come across him, and it got so popular that people created mods that you could add Eero Brian into the game.
Speaker 1So I think he kind of acts a bit like an Enderman in the game. To a degree it's like you're not paying attention. You turn around and he's just there.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's there to mess your game up, not necessarily to kill you, but to mess your game up.
Speaker 3Yeah, a lot of times when I would see videos or things, it was often like he would just be standing there in the woods far off to just kind of freak you out.
Speaker 2So, kids, next time you're playing Minecraft, be careful. I know they said that they patched Hero Brian out.
Speaker 1But why do you think they are constantly having to patch him out? He keeps on getting back into the game.
Speaker 2He keeps coming back, so be on the lookout. Don't go into jungles and you'll be fine.
Speaker 3Don't turn the game on and you'll be fine, don't mine at night, don't mine at night.
Speaker 1Don't dig straight down Real quick. Yeah, I know, we just talked about it.
Speaker 2For anybody who doesn't know what is Minecraft oh, Minecraft is no, I'm not going to try and explain that we all know what Minecraft is, James Minecraft is Open world. It's an open world video game. You can go and play whatever. It's this open world survival game.
Speaker 1They have a movie coming out with Jack Black in it and Jason Momoa. That movie looks so bad. It looks so bad.
Speaker 2If the parent reviews are good, I'll take my oldest son to go see it. So there you go. Yep, well, that's all I got here, o'brien, trick-or-treating. Prayerfully consider what you're going to do as a parent with your kids and remember that, as far as halloween goes, it is a is historically a constant battle between the wiccan community and christians between halloween and all hallows eve. So you know, whatever you do, do it for the glory of the lord, not to exist in humanity. Um, that's all I got. You want to send us out? Sure, go ahead, you know, roll the D D 20 dice again.
Speaker 3Well, I'm out of water, so I guess that means it's the end of the episode.
Speaker 2What'd you roll?
Speaker 311.
Speaker 2Not bad, it's okay. All right, go ahead and say goodbye to everyone in whatever language you're learning.
Speaker 1Arigato gozaimasu.
Speaker 3Kamsahamnida, annyeonghaseyo, that's Korean, south Korean.
Speaker 1And what did you say?
Speaker 3Thank you Goodbye.
Speaker 1Thank you Goodbye.
Speaker 2Thank you for listening to the SDS podcast.
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Speaker 2The Saints that Serve podcast.
Speaker 3The Saints that Serve podcast.
Speaker 1Christ is Lord and the kingdom is now.
Speaker 3Yeehaw, please include my yeehaw. That meant a lot to me. Cut it. Cut the yeehaw.
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